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Nightkill the Emperor
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 1:19 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:I feel I should warn you - Khan has begun to speak of plot points I've never heard of.

Again.

You've heard of the Ark.

You merely have no idea what it is.
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Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri May 09, 2014 1:20 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I feel I should warn you - Khan has begun to speak of plot points I've never heard of.

Again.

You've heard of the Ark.

You merely have no idea what it is.

Because Noah wasn't crazy enough.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Agritum » Fri May 09, 2014 1:21 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:I feel I should warn you - Khan has begun to speak of plot points I've never heard of.

Again.

Your mind is just suppressing those memories to avoid permanent damage to your mental sanity.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 1:24 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:You've heard of the Ark.

You merely have no idea what it is.

Because Noah wasn't crazy enough.

Oh, Noah.

*looks at notes*

You poor, sad, misled bastard.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 1:26 pm

Agritum wrote:Name: Adam from Sheffield
Age (Actual): 25
Age (Appears): 20-something
Race: Human
Appearance: Someday, I'll post it.
Powergrid/Powers: INT 3
STR 1
DUR 2
SPD 2
FS 2 (took some Judo classes back in his youth)

Level 10 (Nightkill) Power - Ultimate Sanity

Due to unknown reasons, Adam's mental sanity is absurdly resilient: he wouldn't bat an eye at the revelation of God being flawed, he would yawn at the sight of Oberon and all the Fae, and maybe he would tremble a bit when meeting Leviathan for the first time, but that's it. He's pretty much the perfect person for his job, which currently consists in being a war correspondsnt for the most fucked up conflict in the history of humanity.

Weaknesses (Optional, but you could get more points if you do this): Adam is a perfectly ordinary young human being. Just look at his powergrid. Well, except for his particular power.
Personality: Snarky, a bit cynic and pessimistic. Not an action guy, definitely. Has got quite a good stiff upper lip.
History: Adam was born in Sheffield, making him from the same region as Eldliam. Fortunately for him, he didn't turn out as insane/stupid as Sir William. Unfortunately for him, he had to live through the Abrahamic War and subsequent decadence of Britain in a very, very under-privileged position.

Even after living a shitty childhood in post-Azazel Britain, Adam didn't give up and eventually got a degree in Journalism, the only career he was particularly interested him. He thus started an eternal internship in BBC World News, working his ass off in the shadow of the network's presenters, trying to hit on that cute Berkshire gal in the reception, and overall leading a moderately shitty life.

Then, BBC's war correspondant in the ISSR suddenly called sick at work and, due to a contrived series of random happenings, Adam ended up as the official chronicler of the ISSR's biggest operation ever.

He's got mixed feelings about it.


RP Sample: Yeah, sure.

Approved.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Agritum » Fri May 09, 2014 1:27 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Agritum wrote:Name: Adam from Sheffield
Age (Actual): 25
Age (Appears): 20-something
Race: Human
Appearance: Someday, I'll post it.
Powergrid/Powers: INT 3
STR 1
DUR 2
SPD 2
FS 2 (took some Judo classes back in his youth)

Level 10 (Nightkill) Power - Ultimate Sanity

Due to unknown reasons, Adam's mental sanity is absurdly resilient: he wouldn't bat an eye at the revelation of God being flawed, he would yawn at the sight of Oberon and all the Fae, and maybe he would tremble a bit when meeting Leviathan for the first time, but that's it. He's pretty much the perfect person for his job, which currently consists in being a war correspondsnt for the most fucked up conflict in the history of humanity.

Weaknesses (Optional, but you could get more points if you do this): Adam is a perfectly ordinary young human being. Just look at his powergrid. Well, except for his particular power.
Personality: Snarky, a bit cynic and pessimistic. Not an action guy, definitely. Has got quite a good stiff upper lip.
History: Adam was born in Sheffield, making him from the same region as Eldliam. Fortunately for him, he didn't turn out as insane/stupid as Sir William. Unfortunately for him, he had to live through the Abrahamic War and subsequent decadence of Britain in a very, very under-privileged position.

Even after living a shitty childhood in post-Azazel Britain, Adam didn't give up and eventually got a degree in Journalism, the only career he was particularly interested him. He thus started an eternal internship in BBC World News, working his ass off in the shadow of the network's presenters, trying to hit on that cute Berkshire gal in the reception, and overall leading a moderately shitty life.

Then, BBC's war correspondant in the ISSR suddenly called sick at work and, due to a contrived series of random happenings, Adam ended up as the official chronicler of the ISSR's biggest operation ever.

He's got mixed feelings about it.


RP Sample: Yeah, sure.

Approved.

I get the feeling Sanchez would tolerate having him around, if only because Adam is quite laid-back when it comes to reporting.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 4:04 pm

viewtopic.php?p=20024497#p20024497

I hereby ask NBC to fuck off and die.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Constaniana » Fri May 09, 2014 4:08 pm

Agritum wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Approved.

I get the feeling Sanchez would tolerate having him around, if only because Adam is quite laid-back when it comes to reporting.

I think William might like him, since he's a fellow Yorkshireman and someone he probably goes to the pub with frequently to complain about Hilde.
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Postby Rupudska » Fri May 09, 2014 4:32 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=20024497#p20024497

I hereby ask NBC to fuck off and die.


You should edit in to have MSNBC lined up and shot, as they're the worst of the NBC fleet.
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Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
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Postby Constaniana » Fri May 09, 2014 4:34 pm

Rupudska wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=20024497#p20024497

I hereby ask NBC to fuck off and die.


You should edit in to have MSNBC lined up and shot, as they're the worst of the NBC fleet.

You can spare NBC Sports for the time being, since they've got my premier league on Saturdays.
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Ameriganastan wrote:I work hard to think of those ludicrous Eric adventure stories, but I don't think I'd have come up with rescuing a three armed alchemist from goblin-monkeys in a million years.

Kudos.

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Postby Rupudska » Fri May 09, 2014 4:39 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Rupudska wrote:
You should edit in to have MSNBC lined up and shot, as they're the worst of the NBC fleet.

You can spare NBC Sports for the time being, since they've got my premier league on Saturdays.


They are excused.

Comcast, however, is still not and should probably be destroyed due to being part of NBC now.
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Hladgos wrote:Scantly clad women, more like tanks
seem to be blowing up everyones banks
with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
which show a bit more than just their panties

Questers wrote:
Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
Presumably they use advanced technology like STRIKE WITCHES

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Fri May 09, 2014 4:48 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=20024497#p20024497

I hereby ask NBC to fuck off and die.

NBC really Britta'd this.
When the war is over
Got to start again
Try to hold a trace of what it was back then
You and I we sent each other stories
Just a page I'm lost in all its glory
How can I go home and not get blown away

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Postby Constaniana » Fri May 09, 2014 5:07 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=20024497#p20024497

I hereby ask NBC to fuck off and die.

NBC really Britta'd this.

:lol:
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 6:26 pm

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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 7:25 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:The Bugle may be the greatest podcast ever heard.

http://splitsider.com/2014/04/inside-jo ... the-bugle/

Really.
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I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
P2TM RP Discussion Thread
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Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri May 09, 2014 8:31 pm

I have returned, smarter, stronger, better, more tired, and with a greater knowledge of the human foot. (Don't ask.)

But if I said I was a wise man, surely it would mean I don't know.

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All hail King Martin, First of His Name, Lord of the Goblins.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 8:33 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:I have returned, smarter, stronger, better, more tired, and with a greater knowledge of the human foot. (Don't ask.)

But if I said I was a wise man, surely it would mean I don't know.

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:

All hail King Martin, First of His Name, Lord of the Goblins.

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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Constaniana » Fri May 09, 2014 8:34 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I have returned, smarter, stronger, better, more tired, and with a greater knowledge of the human foot. (Don't ask.)

But if I said I was a wise man, surely it would mean I don't know.


All hail King Martin, First of His Name, Lord of the Goblins.

Image

There's a reason I included him in the list of evil people duelling Laz with trivia.
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Ameriganastan wrote:I work hard to think of those ludicrous Eric adventure stories, but I don't think I'd have come up with rescuing a three armed alchemist from goblin-monkeys in a million years.

Kudos.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 8:38 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Image

There's a reason I included him in the list of evil people duelling Laz with trivia.

Image
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P2TM RP Discussion Thread
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Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri May 09, 2014 8:39 pm

An observation I made today; watching people flirt is extremely, extremely awkward.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 8:41 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:An observation I made today; watching people flirt is extremely, extremely awkward.

It's why Indians have arranged weddings quite often.

Gets directly to the point.
Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
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P2TM RP Discussion Thread
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Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri May 09, 2014 8:42 pm

The second Wikipedia result for "George RR".

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:An observation I made today; watching people flirt is extremely, extremely awkward.

It's why Indians have arranged weddings quite often.

Gets directly to the point.

The only way I can think to end it is to grab another man's shoulder and shout "We're lovers".

You'd be surprised how many problems that can solve.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 8:44 pm


They're actually the same person.
Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
P2TM RP Discussion Thread
If you want a good rp, read this shit.
Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri May 09, 2014 8:45 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:

They're actually the same person.

Nonsense; Martin is a wandering druid untouched by time.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 09, 2014 8:49 pm

Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
P2TM RP Discussion Thread
If you want a good rp, read this shit.
Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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