The city that lives (RP, OOC, Open, steampunk/pony/anthro/hu

[Tribenicha]

Random, out of place, spammy images are picspam regardless of how many/few of them you post.

Well, they weren't out of place technically. I was responding to Hentaline's rather... strange comments...

Random? Fuck yeah they were.

Spammy? Eh... unless if they take up like a quarter of the page I don't consider it as spam on a thread.

Though, I'll just mark them with spoilers from now on, that's what they do in another thread I like to take part in. They do it to keep the pages easy to load though.

Plus I never really even see images posted on the NS forums... like, ever.

[The Flutterlands]

fine I'll stop... wait, you already posted, dammit! I wanted to say this before you posted, I feel very depressed now...

I'm waiting on you...

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Say, Triben, is/are your character(s) still at the opera house?

[Tribenicha]

Say, Triben, is/are your character(s) still at the opera house?

Reynolds was taken by Sunbreaker last I recalled. He is currently knocked unconscious.

Frezier is at an unknown location as of now.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Say, Triben, is/are your character(s) still at the opera house?

Reynolds was taken by Sunbreaker last I recalled. He is currently knocked unconscious.

Frezier is at an unknown location as of now.

Alrighty then, thank you.

[New Babylonia]

So, Spectre has a new 'assassin'. With a musket even. I feel a good ol' ninja vs. gun fight coming.

[Pinki3 Pon-3]

So, Spectre has a new 'assassin'. With a musket even. I feel a good ol' ninja vs. gun fight coming.

Spectre's only just getting started

[New Babylonia]

So, Spectre has a new 'assassin'. With a musket even. I feel a good ol' ninja vs. gun fight coming.

Spectre's only just getting started

I have money on the Ninja in this duel though.
But i do want him to meet Spectre. Ninja's are better assassins than people with muskets. I think. She'd have to convince him to convert somehow, but how hard could it be?

[Pinki3 Pon-3]

Spectre's only just getting started

I have money on the Ninja in this duel though.
But i do want him to meet Spectre. Ninja's are better assassins than people with muskets. I think. She'd have to convince him to convert somehow, but how hard could it be?

Spectre can be very persuasive when she needs to.

[New Babylonia]

I have money on the Ninja in this duel though.
But i do want him to meet Spectre. Ninja's are better assassins than people with muskets. I think. She'd have to convince him to convert somehow, but how hard could it be?

Spectre can be very persuasive when she needs to.

Money won't work. Threatening to kill him won't work, either. He has no friends or family for you to threaten, too. I am curious as to her approach.

[Pinki3 Pon-3]

Spectre can be very persuasive when she needs to.

Money won't work. Threatening to kill him won't work, either. He has no friends or family for you to threaten, too. I am curious as to her approach.

He'll listen to her because its what he wants to do

[Tribenicha]

Spectre's only just getting started

I have money on the Ninja in this duel though.
But i do want him to meet Spectre. Ninja's are better assassins than people with muskets. I think. She'd have to convince him to convert somehow, but how hard could it be?

>Ninja's are better assassins than people with muskets.

Guns beat swords. End of discussion. Frazier also has all of the experience needed to be effective in melee.

[New Babylonia]

I have money on the Ninja in this duel though.
But i do want him to meet Spectre. Ninja's are better assassins than people with muskets. I think. She'd have to convince him to convert somehow, but how hard could it be?

>Ninja's are better assassins than people with muskets.

Guns beat swords. End of discussion. Frazier also has all of the experience needed to be effective in melee.

Not when they're within 3 feet. His experience is irrelevant, incase you weren't aware, ninjas are notorious for attacking from random directions at random times against unsuspecting, therefore defenseless targets. Also smoke grenades, have fun hitting what you cannot see while he follows every sound you make.

Furthermore, if you shoot a musket, everyone nearby knows yo are there. Stab with a sword, and disappear in silence. Unless Frazier's target is alone, for quite some distance, he will be known. Shadow, will not.

[The Flutterlands]

I'm still waiting for Henta to post... It's been a while...

[Tribenicha]

Not when they're within 3 feet. His experience is irrelevant, incase you weren't aware, ninjas are notorious for attacking from random directions at random times against unsuspecting, therefore defenseless targets. Also smoke grenades, have fun hitting what you cannot see while he follows every sound you make.

Furthermore, if you shoot a musket, everyone nearby knows yo are there. Stab with a sword, and disappear in silence. Unless Frazier's target is alone, for quite some distance, he will be known. Shadow, will not.

1. Bayonets and rapiers.
2. Experience actually allows one to remain calm during an ambush. Its that link a soldier builds with the fight or flight instinct that forces them to stay calm and wait for the enemy to falter first.
3. Ninja are not as skilled as samurai in melee. They take to the path of Ninjutsu, not Kenjutsu. They are not nearly master of swords in any way, shape or form.
4. Those items were used to escape an enemy plus, a smoke grendae will blind the ninja as well. They do not have echo-location allowing them to find anything moving in the smoke.
5. Ponies do not have the advantage over a human in melee. Humans are taller and capable of doing two things at once due to them being bipedal. One pony cannot last long in melee against a human who is taller and capable of more movement.

Anthro abominations on the other hand...

Finally, you think frazier cares about being found after he kills a target? He doesn't care if the world knows, he just wants to spill some blood.

[New Babylonia]

Not when they're within 3 feet. His experience is irrelevant, incase you weren't aware, ninjas are notorious for attacking from random directions at random times against unsuspecting, therefore defenseless targets. Also smoke grenades, have fun hitting what you cannot see while he follows every sound you make.

Furthermore, if you shoot a musket, everyone nearby knows yo are there. Stab with a sword, and disappear in silence. Unless Frazier's target is alone, for quite some distance, he will be known. Shadow, will not.

1. Bayonets and rapiers.
2. Experience actually allows one to remain calm during an ambush. Its that link a soldier builds with the fight or flight instinct that forces them to stay calm and wait for the enemy to falter first.
3. Ninja are not as skilled as samurai in melee. They take to the path of Ninjutsu, not Kenjutsu. They are not nearly master of swords in any way, shape or form.
4. Those items were used to escape an enemy plus, a smoke grendae will blind the ninja as well. They do not have echo-location allowing them to find anything moving in the smoke.
5. Ponies do not have the advantage over a human in melee. Humans are taller and capable of doing two things at once due to them being bipedal. One pony cannot last long in melee against a human who is taller and capable of more movement.

Anthro abominations on the other hand...

Finally, you think frazier cares about being found after he kills a target? He doesn't care if the world knows, he just wants to spill some blood.

Actually, if you read Shadows app, he is very very very skilled with his sword, and knives, and throwing stars. Ninjas (or Shinboi if you prefer) were actually very skilled, how else would they be able to fight Samurai, as they are noted to have done?
Smoke grenades don't block hearing, only vision. So, yes, if you made notable sound, he could hear you. Or escape outside the cloud, and attack from another angle.
That is true. Except, i've already found a way around that issue. He will get a special enhancement courtesy of our own mentally insanse engineer, Aurora.

[Tribenicha]

Actually, if you read Shadows app, he is very very very skilled with his sword, and knives, and throwing stars. Ninjas (or Shinboi if you prefer) were actually very skilled, how else would they be able to fight Samurai, as they are noted to have done?
Smoke grenades don't block hearing, only vision. So, yes, if you made notable sound, he could hear you. Or escape outside the cloud, and attack from another angle.
That is true. Except, i've already found a way around that issue. He will get a special enhancement courtesy of our own mentally insanse engineer, Aurora.[/quote]

Like you said, they didn't fight samuri directly. If they did, ninjas would get wrecked. The school of Ninjiutsu is a completely different entity than that of Kenjutsu. Give a ninja a katana you can have one dead target. Give a samurai a katana and you have a good twenty dead ashigaru.

Also, I don't want to search through this entire thread for one app... It not even laziness its just... that is WAY too much for me to sort through.

Yes, but experience can render that void, as a real soldier would know what to do when ambushed with smoke. Fighting in an artillery and rifle dominated battlefied tends to give you experience fighting in smoke...

Echo-location is a very double-edged sword really. In order for it to even be effective he must blindfold himself or it won't be effective.

[The Republic of Greater Appalachia]

Hey NB, you missed my post....

[New Babylonia]

Actually, if you read Shadows app, he is very very very skilled with his sword, and knives, and throwing stars. Ninjas (or Shinboi if you prefer) were actually very skilled, how else would they be able to fight Samurai, as they are noted to have done?
Smoke grenades don't block hearing, only vision. So, yes, if you made notable sound, he could hear you. Or escape outside the cloud, and attack from another angle.
That is true. Except, i've already found a way around that issue. He will get a special enhancement courtesy of our own mentally insanse engineer, Aurora.

Like you said, they didn't fight samuri directly. If they did, ninjas would get wrecked. The school of Ninjiutsu is a completely different entity than that of Kenjutsu. Give a ninja a katana you can have one dead target. Give a samurai a katana and you have a good twenty dead ashigaru.

Also, I don't want to search through this entire thread for one app... It not even laziness its just... that is WAY too much for me to sort through.

Yes, but experience can render that void, as a real soldier would know what to do when ambushed with smoke. Fighting in an artillery and rifle dominated battlefied tends to give you experience fighting in smoke...

Echo-location is a very double-edged sword really. In order for it to even be effective he must blindfold himself or it won't be effective.[/quote]
Ahigaru are untrained peaseants. Of course a Samurai will slay many. You seem to misinterpret, attacking by ambush is not a substitute for skill. Its strategy. This is the same ninja pony who killed off entire gangs in the slums that irked him. He is not your normal definition of a ninja.

No, it can't. Try shooting something you can't see, or stabbing something you can't see. Good luck.

One combatant has trained himself to listen, the other has not and on top of that has damaged eardrums from his method of warfare. Its very arguable that Frazier wouldn't even be able to hear him approach, let alone the difficulty those with average hearing would have.

[Pinki3 Pon-3]

Erm . . . Ashigaru are foot soldiers who are employed under a samurai . . . Samurai wouldn't be fighting them.

[The Republic of Greater Appalachia]

And NB missed my post on page 92...

[Tribenicha]

Ahigaru are untrained peaseants. Of course a Samurai will slay many. You seem to misinterpret, attacking by ambush is not a substitute for skill. Its strategy. This is the same ninja pony who killed off entire gangs in the slums that irked him. He is not your normal definition of a ninja.

No, it can't. Try shooting something you can't see, or stabbing something you can't see. Good luck.

One combatant has trained himself to listen, the other has not and on top of that has damaged eardrums from his method of warfare. Its very arguable that Frazier wouldn't even be able to hear him approach, let alone the difficulty those with average hearing would have.

>Ahigaru are untrained peaseants.

Uh... they were trained mercenaries that were paid with what was looted from taken cities... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashigaru#Origins

>You seem to misinterpret, attacking by ambush is not a substitute for skill. Its strategy.

Ambush is a strategy as a substitute for lacking numbers and overall ability. Hence, a ninja can't take a smurai directly in combat so they must ambush them...

>He is not your normal definition of a ninja.

Then why call him a ninja?

>No, it can't. Try shooting something you can't see, or stabbing something you can't see. Good luck.

That's why you wait for an approaching enemy. You don't see experienced troops immediatly flinging swords around and shooting randomly when they are in smoke, do you?

>Its very arguable that Frazier wouldn't even be able to hear him approach

Hooves... on cobble...

A smoke bomb won't really damage you eardrums either, especially if you stand next to artillery batterries and entire lines of hundreds of rifles being fired at once... It would be nothing to an officer of his rank.

Now, the fact here is this. Ninjas have never fought against line infantry, or vice versa. Ninjas fight targets through ambushing using stealth while line infantry march in and blast away.

Both sides are good in each others weaknesses, rendering the battle to a draw. Ninjas cannot fight head-on, but line infantry can. Line-infantry can defend against most ambushes quite well, how do you think they fought against Natives in North America? The native didn't march at them, they attacked when they were most vulnerable and Line infantry still prevailed.

Either way, since neither really ever faced each other it would be completely dependent on which one was able to prepare more. Frazier could simply stand on a hill and wait. He gets height advantage and the Ninja has lost most of its strengths. If the ninja has time to set up an array of traps on one target then they will strip the enemy of their advantages.

So really, it is just a draw until we actually have the two fight each other...

Which I look forward to...

Erm . . . Ashigaru are foot soldiers who are employed under a samurai . . . Samurai wouldn't be fighting them.

...You do know that they're just mercenaries hired by a clan, right? And that samuri and Ashigaru can be on opposite sides of a batle... right?

[Pinki3 Pon-3]

"Land-owning samurai, together
with peasant foot soldiers,
fought in many wars" and then, "Constant
warfare between the 1300s and
1500s made the hiring of foot
soldiers with no particular loyalty
necessary at times. Paid only in
loot, these mercenaries were not
well-trained and thus could not
always be depended upon in
battle." So technically the mercs you're referring to who could've fought samurai were the ones NB's talking about but does this argument really matter at all? Also, what's with the green?

[Tribenicha]

"Land-owning samurai, together
with peasant foot soldiers,
fought in many wars" and then, "Constant
warfare between the 1300s and
1500s made the hiring of foot
soldiers with no particular loyalty
necessary at times. Paid only in
loot, these mercenaries were not
well-trained and thus could not
always be depended upon in
battle." So technically the mercs you're referring to who could've fought samurai were the ones NB's talking about but does this argument really matter at all? Also, what's with the green?

...That sentence does not even insinuate that the samurai hired them.

"Land-owing Samurai, together with peasent foot soldiers fought in many wars."

This showed the army composition of pre-feudal Japan. The samurai owned land and the daimyo supplied peasents to the jobs that Samurai were over-qualififed for.

it then stated that Ashigaru are a force of mercenaries that were hired to create armies with samurai, instead of sacrificing their peasents that brought income and labor to their lands.

Also, the green is used to highlight the point being refuted in the discussion. Something from 4chan that is quite effective.

And no, this argument doesn't matter in the slightest... like all internet arguments I guess...

[Hentaline]

Did Pinki3 respond to my character app?