Personification Life OOC VIII [OPEN -Sign up and Planning]

[Morlodania]

Anyway, thanks Cer.
Hopefully one of these days my brain will re-activate.

Also, I sincerely hope that this event ends within the next month, as, after 14 June, I am applicable to deploy to training again.

YW.

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I've been giving some consideration towards offering OPship to one of our players and letting this be transferred to F7. I've asked my CoOPs for their thoughts on it. We bill ourselves as an RP but people lose interest whenever we attempt to RP anything with a plot. I'm wondering if we should simply make PL a chat location thread. It would keep the brand alive but allow people who enjoy plots/advancement to fashion a new RP more suited for that sort of endeavor. It's just a thought at this stage. My objective is to keep people happy and do what's best for PL, even if that means we step down and allow fresh blood to grab a hold of the reigns. We could even keep in in P2TM if someone is willing to keep it as a RP rather than a location thread.

I might fashion a similar concept/backdrop but with a set theme. Those who want to move their characters over can do so. It won't be a teaching thread however. The pace will be the same as it is now although conversations/character development would be fine during lulls in the story. I'm also in the mood to run a hard-core horror RP (more terror, less gore) as well as get involved in some 40K RP already out there.

iShrug. Your input would be good. What do you all think?

I would think that PL could be a dual-location thing, maybe?
Keep the main IC (This) for those people that specialize in doing P2TM stuff.
CREATE another F7 thread for just day-to-day or minor character stuff for those of us (Like me) who feel more comfortable with that.

I would throw my hat in the ring for F7 leader, but I'm not going to be around for a three month period in a month, so I'll have to pass, even though I likely have the most experience in that field, other than TNEL.

[Torsiedelle]

I like PL the way it is right now, and feel that moving it to F7 would be just...terrible. If newbies can't stick around or be bothered to post during events or interaction, then they could be dropped/have their characters killed off/ignored.

We can have an overall plot, or move from story to story over time...the events are good, and they do contribute to the world in some way. I'd like the idea of PL having a plot, but staying open-ended, with the city being like a hub for simple character interaction and smaller events and stories.

Yea, I like PL the way it is. I just think that, if new characters loose interest, then so be it. Other newbies will stay, and it's not like we have a shortage of people at the moment (though many regulars are often gone on work or school, which is understandable).

[New Aksarben]

I like PL how it is, and I don't lose interest when events happen. Its just sometimes I cannot think of what to post or get distracted by life. I don't think I'd join either if it moved over, just because it wouldn't quite be the same as PL. But if I did join one or the other it would be the one with you still in charge, Cer. I really like how you run things, and just a chat thread is somewhat pointless in my mind.

I agree with Torsie, if new players can't keep interest then just have them drop out or let them drop out. Its possibly all the new players who have been choking up the progress in PL, with the new characters and helter skelter pace making regulars confused and less willing to post.

I also agree with the part that PL could have an overall plot. I wouldn't disagree with that, especially if its an interesting one that still lets things be open-ended.

[Fvaarniimar]

@ Gio: Touching post. I loved the choice of question!

@ Morlo, Cer: Would it be possible, if necessary (i.e. Morlo temporarily leaving during event, due to deployment or for other reasons), to have Jorgen stumble into an OP trap which causes magical suspended animation (and blocks both other threats and fellow group members who might attempt rescue should they realize what has occurred) or something? That would effectively remove Jorgen, while keeping the possibility of return open. Just a suggestion, of course.

@Cer etc: I think Morlo has a point. What's really cool about this RP IMO is the opportunities for character development- and those arise from both the plots and the everyday stuff.

That being said, not everyone loses interest when plots show up! Pwease don't get rid of plots! Frankly, I think that this has just as much right to be seen as an RP as any of the others. Unlike most, much of it takes place in a building, but posts are (usually) longish and descriptive. I haven't seen anything in F7 like that.

[Cerillium]

Torsi and NA echo Swith's sentiments.

I've been thinking of not doing major events and making it less of a training RP. Players could revert back to how things were before but (big butt) they'd still need to clear world-changing events with CoOPs etc, and no one-liners.

We do actually have an overarching plot but we seldom see it (for good reason). I tend to weave player plots into it and adjust my own stuff to incorporate the things Bran, Torii, Giovenith etc get up to IC.

@Fvaar. Morlo never has to worry about his character if he's deployed or long-term AFK. No player does as long as I know in advance. Sabbaticals are common for college students, kids being dragged on vacation with their families, military personnel, and those of us who get stuck visiting their mothers in Japan for a week. (Note: heads up, we'll be in Japan for a week this summer unless I can find an excuse to stay home.)

[Morlodania]

Morlo never has to worry about his character if he's deployed or long-term AFK. No player does as long as I know in advance. Sabbaticals are common for college students, kids being dragged on vacation with their families, military personnel, and those of us who get stuck visiting their mothers in Japan for a week. (Note: heads up, we'll be in Japan for a week this summer unless I can find an excuse to stay home.)

Well, you now know in advance, as I told you, did I not?

[Torsiedelle]

I like PL how it is, and I don't lose interest when events happen. Its just sometimes I cannot think of what to post or get distracted by life. I don't think I'd join either if it moved over, just because it wouldn't quite be the same as PL. But if I did join one or the other it would be the one with you still in charge, Cer. I really like how you run things, and just a chat thread is somewhat pointless in my mind.

Agreed. PL just wouldn't be PL. I like having the whole casual/chat thing going, and then jumping to events, or having a bunch of minor player stories going on all at once. It makes everything seem real to me.

I agree with Torsie, if new players can't keep interest then just have them drop out or let them drop out. Its possibly all the new players who have been choking up the progress in PL, with the new characters and helter skelter pace making regulars confused and less willing to post.

I hate to say it, but I do sort of feel this way. Nothing against newbies, though. Carly is still a newbie to me, but I think she's a good member of PL. Fvaar and Min as well.

@Fvaar: Indeed. I like PL because it does involve longer posts, but it isn't a defining feature. It's casual, but serious, lots of character interaction, with events and mini-plots, and it isn't overly structured like many other RPs. Wait...I suck at this....

It just works. That's it...it just works.

I also agree with the part that PL could have an overall plot. I wouldn't disagree with that, especially if its an interesting one that still lets things be open-ended.

Oi, what happened to the god-war thing? Bane? The whole Chaos factions warring, Cthulu attacks, and the Raptors' crazy schemes seemed to be a big part of PL, with the gang gathering every other week to stop it; kind of like the weekly action heroes fighting the forces of evil. It wasn't very structured, but it gave a purpose to the thing. We haven't had that in a while. The current events are a nice change. Maybe the building needs a new common enemy? Anti-Magic army? Another parallel universe-style apartment aimed at fighting the main one? Chaos splinter-cell? Pro-magic mad scientists? Man-eating pigeons?

[Giovenith]

Ninja'd a lot, but...

Personally? While I think we can do stuff to make PL accommodate many people, I don't think it should be a flat out chat location. There are already places for that, and people should go to the proper places that serve their needs. Don't go to McDonalds and demand a pizza. I've always seen PL as a kind of middle ground to Roleplaying: More substance than IC chat, but not mindblowingly difficult to follow or play either. It's the training wheels after a trike, but before the motorcycle. People should feel like they can relax here, but not that they can run rampant. Again, there are already places for that, and people should make use of them.

If it's more like a different thread that is a more toned down version of PL, I suppose that would be fine, but still, there are other places that offer the same thing. They can go there. What I really wouldn't want is for the pages of our main thread to be consistently eaten up with asterisk play flirting and such. PL has built to a lot in its time, and I feel like that might be compromised by allowing play without some semblance of focus. As I said, it's a medium.

I'm sorry if that sounds mean or anything, didn't mean to be, just trying to convey. It's also possible I don't entirely understand what this would ensue, but based on the little I do, it's my input. In the end, I'll go along with whatever is decided.

[Cerillium]

Man-eating pigeons are always a possibility. We've had Scarface and exploding shrews, after all.

Bane was put on hold when I realized it would be way too intensive for me to pull off with my limited hours. Couldn't do it justice. Later, perhaps. Might set it loose on the BranRiech because Bran's at work at the moment and thus unaware that I'm cracking a joke.

I wasn't sure if we should continue with the Chaos factions warring. It's 40K themed and not many enjoy the genre. It would have taken too much away from the light-hearted atmosphere and minor stories like Kayta's baby, Bran's nation visit and a few other player-driven stories.

Gio we will never go back to asterisk play in PL, I promise. I enjoy asterisk play (in F7) and have been known in the distant past to delve into mindless locationing under various accounts (usually to harass the hell out of Swith for grins) but we worked too hard to pull ourselves up to a better standard here in PL-land.

[Terintania]

I agree with those that said they like Personification Life the way it is now. I see nothing wrong with it.

[Torsiedelle]

Asterisk play is a no-no!

Gio said it best: PL is a medium. It's lighthearted and fun, allowing characters to chat and delve into simple interactions, that just can be a good way to relax and have fun, while still offering more serious events and relationships to build up and work, which helps keep things interesting and ever-evolving. I'm guilty of delving into asterisk play before, but it's too simple for PL. On the other hand, I don't like RPs like the others in P2TM for their already-set local and setting, complex stats and balancing, set plots and stories, rules, etc...it, IMO, takes away the fun factor, keeping that all in. PL can offer some kickass events and experienced without getting too caught up in that kind of stuff. It's also funner in that we can have characters from all genres: godlings, fairies, demons, aliens, soldiers, and much more.

[Giovenith]

Goodie, Cer!

@Faav: thank you!

But overall, I agree that PL is fine now. It's players' jobs to know what they're getting into when they sign up for something. If they don't like plots, then they should find somewhere that doesn't put emphasis on them. As I said: McDonalds doesn't have pizza, so don't try to make them give you one. Go to Pizza Hut.

[Cerillium]

TY Ter.

And then Gio drops a wickedly intense post in the IC and I'm reminded that PL is still a perfectly good platform for realistic responses and character depth.

@Torsi. I enjoy the open genre concept here. We draw in imaginations rather than genre-fans.

[New Aksarben]

Man-eating pigeons are always a possibility. We've had Scarface and exploding shrews, after all.

Bane was put on hold when I realized it would be way too intensive for me to pull off with my limited hours. Couldn't do it justice. Later, perhaps. Might set it loose on the BranRiech because Bran's at work at the moment and thus unaware that I'm cracking a joke.

I wasn't sure if we should continue with the Chaos factions warring. It's 40K themed and not many enjoy the genre. It would have taken too much away from the light-hearted atmosphere and minor stories like Kayta's baby, Bran's nation visit and a few other player-driven stories.

Gio we will never go back to asterisk play in PL, I promise. I enjoy asterisk play (in F7) and have been known in the distant past to delve into mindless locationing under various accounts (usually to harass the hell out of Swith for grins) but we worked too hard to pull ourselves up to a better standard here in PL-land.

Still have events that have been basically put on hold nigh indefinitely like the conclusion to my SCP one, and the pony storyline and other things like that which could turn out interestingly.

I should probably discuss my event with either you or swith btw, Cer. To help solidify what exactly will be happening, cause I may have forgotten many parts of the original plan I'd thought up. >.>


and yeah, PL is a great medium. Nothing's wrong with it, its just that we have the tendency to let absent players or ones who have lost interest hold things back.


Also with all the jobs referencing, I should mention that I'm trying to figure out where I should work over the summer. My parents and I have a few ideas. I just need to get off my behind and submit applications and all

[Fvaarniimar]

Something which might work, IMO, and has been kinda sorta mentioned already: A spin-off thread in F7. It could be a spot to spot possible potential invitees, and for PL members to occasionally goof off. Maybe some house somewhere in Bielefield, or how the Building is in a different dimension (sorry if that doesn't follow the theory, the 10 dimensions etc. get confusing!),or even a floor or two of the Builing itself (not like the numbered ones, the kind represented with a symbol and often isolated... Maybe even one OF those floors! The mathematicians could be fun to play...

Also, I concur with too many of the sentiments previously expressed to fashion individual replies.

Gio's, however, merits a mention: Yes, that would change what PL is, and I most certainly would not want that.

@Gio: So I'm Faav now? Hmm. Nicknames given thus far: Fvaar, Faarv (or was it Farv? Anyway, that was NA, methinks) and now Faav. That last actually sounds like a good boy's name based on Fvaarniimarn nomenclature: I may use it for that purpose someday.
Also, naturally, you're very welcome!

[Cerillium]

Still have events that have been basically put on hold nigh indefinitely like the conclusion to my SCP one, and the pony storyline and other things like that which could turn out interestingly.

I should probably discuss my event with either you or swith btw, Cer. To help solidify what exactly will be happening, cause I may have forgotten many parts of the original plan I'd thought up. >.>


and yeah, PL is a great medium. Nothing's wrong with it, its just that we have the tendency to let absent players or ones who have lost interest hold things back.


Also with all the jobs referencing, I should mention that I'm trying to figure out where I should work over the summer. My parents and I have a few ideas. I just need to get off my behind and submit applications and all

Your SCP ideas are fantastic. The short event we did with the flag? I didn't participate but I loved reading through the post frenzy between you, Torsi, Bran and others.

I remember bits from your Pony story but can you run it by me again when you have time to compile your thoughts? Rusty memory tells me that you and Gio had a good portion of the backstory blocked out and it seemed do-able to me.

[Torsiedelle]

Hmmm....now a spinoff? Maybe...just like an "after-hours" thing where the characters can really goof off PL Classic-style, which could hint at events in the real PL, and in which the real PL could hint at, but would otherwise have no effect on the real PL?

Actually, no, since I think most simple interaction would be in that, leaving PL to mostly more serious side stories and events...I like the blend....yea, keep PL as it is.

Ah, I remember the SCPs....they weren't major, thread-effecting things, but they were really fun. That, and it was funny having Bran petrify Torii, and then bash her to pieces. I like hurting my characters


EDIT: Ooooh, I forgot, the Teen Club! Not really major to the thread, but it's fun to have all the younger characters go on less dangerous adventures! I still like the idea of a concert for them to go to, and who couldn't resist a Mystery-Inc.-style event with Nick instead of a dog?

[Giovenith]

Speaking of the pony thing, I've been reworking things to get it on sooner, NA. Since others seem to be busy and all. Sometime after FOB when time is free.

Cer, I'll outline it when my internet is back up. I'm on my phone.

[Cerillium]

Something which might work, IMO, and has been kinda sorta mentioned already: A spin-off thread in F7. It could be a spot to spot possible potential invitees, and for PL members to occasionally goof off. Maybe some house somewhere in Bielefield, or how the Building is in a different dimension (sorry if that doesn't follow the theory, the 10 dimensions etc. get confusing!),or even a floor or two of the Builing itself (not like the numbered ones, the kind represented with a symbol and often isolated... Maybe even one OF those floors! The mathematicians could be fun to play...

Also, I concur with too many of the sentiments previously expressed to fashion individual replies.

Gio's, however, merits a mention: Yes, that would change what PL is, and I most certainly would not want that.

@Gio: So I'm Faav now? Hmm. Nicknames given thus far: Fvaar, Faarv (or was it Farv? Anyway, that was NA, methinks) and now Faav. That last actually sounds like a good boy's name based on Fvaarniimarn nomenclature: I may use it for that purpose someday.
Also, naturally, you're very welcome!

My hesitation with going to F7 is that it'll encourage lazy play here (or no play at all). It's difficult to track characters spread over many threads. Does Klaus in PLF7 still have the magic hat with psychedelic daisies? Or was that hat in PLP2TM? Where did the hat come from?!

Swith and I have used Klaus and Minerva in simultaneous RP but the characters are old and familiar to us and we peppered the RPs with inside jokes and meaningful winks; new players might be hard pressed to keep subforums straight in their heads.

@Gio. No major rush. Good things come after thought's put into them.

[Cerillium]

I should add that Swith and I were temped to open up the Wilting Succubus as a F7 thread and run amok with nonsense (minus asterisk play - comedic bits written out properly). Closed game for friends (PLers and more) only.

Then we started our diplomacy thread and that got the fix out of our systems.

[New Aksarben]

Still have events that have been basically put on hold nigh indefinitely like the conclusion to my SCP one, and the pony storyline and other things like that which could turn out interestingly.

I should probably discuss my event with either you or swith btw, Cer. To help solidify what exactly will be happening, cause I may have forgotten many parts of the original plan I'd thought up. >.>


and yeah, PL is a great medium. Nothing's wrong with it, its just that we have the tendency to let absent players or ones who have lost interest hold things back.


Also with all the jobs referencing, I should mention that I'm trying to figure out where I should work over the summer. My parents and I have a few ideas. I just need to get off my behind and submit applications and all

Your SCP ideas are fantastic. The short event we did with the flag? I didn't participate but I loved reading through the post frenzy between you, Torsi, Bran and others.

I remember bits from your Pony story but can you run it by me again when you have time to compile your thoughts? Rusty memory tells me that you and Gio had a good portion of the backstory blocked out and it seemed do-able to me.

Its mostly Gio's planning. I just helped with spitballing ideas personally

and the SCP stuff could potentially continue if I find more interesting SCPs. The problem is most are simply too reality warping to work or relatively harmless compared to the setting.
It was mostly that I want to discuss what I'll be doing with 682 more in depth so I play it properly and not to overpowered, as it could easily snowball to where divine intervention would be needed. or at the least from more powerful groups

[Morlodania]

Your SCP ideas are fantastic. The short event we did with the flag? I didn't participate but I loved reading through the post frenzy between you, Torsi, Bran and others.

I remember bits from your Pony story but can you run it by me again when you have time to compile your thoughts? Rusty memory tells me that you and Gio had a good portion of the backstory blocked out and it seemed do-able to me.

Its mostly Gio's planning. I just helped with spitballing ideas personally

and the SCP stuff could potentially continue if I find more interesting SCPs. The problem is most are simply too reality warping to work or relatively harmless compared to the setting.
It was mostly that I want to discuss what I'll be doing with 682 more in depth so I play it properly and not to overpowered, as it could easily snowball to where divine intervention would be needed. or at the least from more powerful groups

NA, if you wanna do SCP stuff...
Can I be included? I'm a member.

[Tiltjuice]

@ Tilt: I took the SL French exam yesterday. I believe that I did well- even on the writing part. (I'm a slow writer, although a bit faster on my phone, and can freeze up. Fortunately, I didn't remain frozen for long in this case, instead writing a funny (IMO) letter which I believe fulfilled the requirements.

Fun! Yay!

The speaking part (IA) was toughest for me. I hate talking, even in one-on-one. Maybe especially one-on-one.

@Fvaar. There were five people looking them over. Some, like "Bistro", had bad sentiments attached to them. Others, like my own "Cabana" were only liked by one person. Others were way too long with no way to abbreviate them. Still others were downright useless.

Don't worry. The title changes with each thread. The first one might be whatever name is chosen now and the next might be "Otter Tits" if someone suggests it and the thread vote shows it to be the winner. We'll improve the process the next time around. The goal for now is to get the thing up and running to declutter Cafe.

I liked Cabana. I like Otter Tits, too. I might be able to become mascot.

I've been giving some consideration towards offering OPship to one of our players and letting this be transferred to F7. I've asked my CoOPs for their thoughts on it. We bill ourselves as an RP but people lose interest whenever we attempt to RP anything with a plot. I'm wondering if we should simply make PL a chat location thread. It would keep the brand alive but allow people who enjoy plots/advancement to fashion a new RP more suited for that sort of endeavor. It's just a thought at this stage. My objective is to keep people happy and do what's best for PL, even if that means we step down and allow fresh blood to grab a hold of the reigns. We could even keep in in P2TM if someone is willing to keep it as a RP rather than a location thread.

I might fashion a similar concept/backdrop but with a set theme. Those who want to move their characters over can do so. It won't be a teaching thread however. The pace will be the same as it is now although conversations/character development would be fine during lulls in the story. I'm also in the mood to run a hard-core horror RP (more terror, less gore) as well as get involved in some 40K RP already out there.

iShrug. Your input would be good. What do you all think?

I think I miss all the fun conversations.

Rightly or wrongly, PL is a big name and moving it would change the nature of it. Then, too, it'd be like that thing nevermore to be mentioned, but in reverse, which wouldn't be fair.

Oi, what happened to the god-war thing? Bane? The whole Chaos factions warring, Cthulu attacks, and the Raptors' crazy schemes seemed to be a big part of PL, with the gang gathering every other week to stop it; kind of like the weekly action heroes fighting the forces of evil. It wasn't very structured, but it gave a purpose to the thing. We haven't had that in a while. The current events are a nice change. Maybe the building needs a new common enemy? Anti-Magic army? Another parallel universe-style apartment aimed at fighting the main one? Chaos splinter-cell? Pro-magic mad scientists? Man-eating pigeons?

Everything is possible.

I wasn't sure if we should continue with the Chaos factions warring. It's 40K themed and not many enjoy the genre. It would have taken too much away from the light-hearted atmosphere and minor stories like Kayta's baby, Bran's nation visit and a few other player-driven stories.

I expressed disappointment behind the scenes to Swith in TG about this. I felt like people missed out a lot on it, and suggested doing it in the OSF or in a closed side thread. *shrugs* Dunno.

[Fvaarniimar]

Also:

Since event ideas are being discussed a bit, I figured I could bring up something which I've thought of doing for some time; it's very simple and small, and could easily run alongside others. Description: Nick gets something, probably a comic book, from the library and runs into this trope. As a result, he tries it out, with comical results due largely to his physiology.

@Tilt: Yeah, that IA got nerve-wracking! I think, however, that I did fine on it despite some hesitation.
@Cer: IMO, something taking place in the same verse but never or almost never crossing over could work. And the idea of using the math floor is growing on me...

[Tiltjuice]

I think I should mention my idea of Conservators evolved over time. They're kind of like the world's most deadly spiritual file clerks in my head now. *laughs*