The Man in the Sand Castle (Nazi-World RP: OOC)

[Granadeseret]

No. There are a number of issues with both the content and concept of this application.

1. Anarchy, by definition, can't be organized in any way, shape , or form that can be effectively RPed.

2. Having a system with no system of authority, orders, connections, or bases of operation is A) not a system at all and B) Un(insert name of deity one chooses to believe in here)ly easy to godmod with: people can pop up at any time, any where, blow themselves up, and it is impossible to trace, counter, or gain any information to prevent future attacks with, because its all taking place within the minds of one person who could be at any location on the globe at any time.

3. "Civilians" would have no discernible role in such an organization, as their is no need for (or existance of) a logistic support net.

Alrighty then. So, I guess I should just App a different organization?

Yes, preferably something with more structure and a smaller area of operation.

[The Vekta-Helghast Empire]

I've just noticed.. Since Russia's been in rebellion for so long and the East was just left to go to shit, how are you going to control all these conflicting political, cultural and ethnic groups who are pretty much all armed to the teeth and clearly willing to fight for their ideals? It'll be especially hard for any communist regimes who will be detested after Mr Stalin's little dictatorship last time, which lost them the war..

[New Vaxon]

Alrighty then. So, I guess I should just App a different organization?

Yes, preferably something with more structure and a smaller area of operation.

Got it. Will get the App up in the next hour or so.

[Granadeseret]

I've just noticed.. Since Russia's been in rebellion for so long and the East was just left to go to shit, how are you going to control all these conflicting political, cultural and ethnic groups who are pretty much all armed to the teeth and clearly willing to fight for their ideals? It'll be especially hard for any communist regimes who will be detested after Mr Stalin's little dictatorship last time, which lost them the war..

I've already pointed that out. Russia is either going to have to be united by a very heavy application of force, or Balkanize to a certain extent.

[Aldelxane]

I've just noticed.. Since Russia's been in rebellion for so long and the East was just left to go to shit, how are you going to control all these conflicting political, cultural and ethnic groups who are pretty much all armed to the teeth and clearly willing to fight for their ideals? It'll be especially hard for any communist regimes who will be detested after Mr Stalin's little dictatorship last time, which lost them the war..

The F.R.L will likely accept the Siberian government's plea for assistance (random event), hopefully win, and then annex Siberia and most of Transamur, and Lunas has said that the Communists will trickle out to Central Asia.

[The Vekta-Helghast Empire]

I've just noticed.. Since Russia's been in rebellion for so long and the East was just left to go to shit, how are you going to control all these conflicting political, cultural and ethnic groups who are pretty much all armed to the teeth and clearly willing to fight for their ideals? It'll be especially hard for any communist regimes who will be detested after Mr Stalin's little dictatorship last time, which lost them the war..

The F.R.L will likely accept the Siberian government's plea for assistance (random event), hopefully win, and then annex Siberia and most of Transamur, and Lunas has said that the Communists will trickle out to Central Asia.

Ah, okay. So how will you go about disarming everyone? Or are you going to go all American on us and go "You have the right to weild arms." Just curious , it could be a bit interesting.

[Aldelxane]

The F.R.L will likely accept the Siberian government's plea for assistance (random event), hopefully win, and then annex Siberia and most of Transamur, and Lunas has said that the Communists will trickle out to Central Asia.

Ah, okay. So how will you go about disarming everyone? Or are you going to go all American on us and go "You have the right to weild arms." Just curious , it could be a bit interesting.

The militant 500,000 of the F.R.L and the Siberian military would become the official army of Russia, and the huge amounts of guns in the general populace would slowly be phased out through regulations and licensing procedures. ( Also, I'm also hoping the Japanese will neglect to help Transamur if I let them directly annex a large chunk of Eastern Transamur)

[Carathon]

The die is cast. Let this be a lesson to the rest of you:



Never trust a nation who's leader is nicknamed " The Young Evil God of Death. "

[Aldelxane]

Well, I guess the treaty's off. You've just condemned the Brandenburgers to death by the way. Thousands of partisans will now storm Perm. Also: The Partisans didn't exactly bring vehicles, vehicles are a waste of good gasoline which can be turned into firebombs.

[Carathon]

Well, I guess the treaty's off. You've just condemned the Brandenburgers to death by the way. Thousands of partisans will now storm Perm.

What Brandenburgers? Those were Communists who attacked the FRL leaders because they were negotiating with the mass-murdering Germans, remember?

[Aldelxane]

Well, I guess the treaty's off. You've just condemned the Brandenburgers to death by the way. Thousands of partisans will now storm Perm.

What Brandenburgers? Those were Communists who attacked the FRL leaders because they were negotiating with the mass-murdering Germans, remember?

Umanov won't buy it. He just made a deal with the Communists, and a spontaneous attack by them right after is anything but believable. Again, the Brandenburgers are as good as dead.

[Lunas Legion]

Well, I guess the treaty's off. You've just condemned the Brandenburgers to death by the way. Thousands of partisans will now storm Perm.

What Brandenburgers? Those were Communists who attacked the FRL leaders because they were negotiating with the mass-murdering Germans, remember?

Damned false flag incidents...

It's good then that the New Red Army is going to begin trickling into Central Asia then; and that I have the FRL's main supply line.

[Aldelxane]

What Brandenburgers? Those were Communists who attacked the FRL leaders because they were negotiating with the mass-murdering Germans, remember?

Damned false flag incidents...

It's good then that the New Red Army is going to begin trickling into Central Asia then; and that I have the FRL's main supply line.

And as I said earlier: We just made a deal with the Communists. It's completely illogical for them to attack us now. Therefore, it's obviously foul play on the part of the Germans. Also: We didn't bring any vehicles into the city, so please revise that part. Waste of good firebombs.

[Lunas Legion]

What Brandenburgers? Those were Communists who attacked the FRL leaders because they were negotiating with the mass-murdering Germans, remember?

Umanov won't buy it. He just made a deal with the Communists, and a spontaneous attack by them right after is anything but believable. Again, the Brandenburgers are as good as dead.

There's also how would the Internationale know about the meeting; the Reich is one of only a few governments it has no spies at all in.

[Carathon]

What Brandenburgers? Those were Communists who attacked the FRL leaders because they were negotiating with the mass-murdering Germans, remember?

Umanov won't buy it. He just made a deal with the Communists, and a spontaneous attack by them right after is anything but believable. Again, the Brandenburgers are as good as dead.

Did you inform them you were talking with the Germans? And besides, the Communists - even the internationale - are anything but a completely organized, er, organization. Communciations are likely hard to get deeply into Russia, and perhaps not even all of the Communists know that a deal was made with the FRL.

Anyhow, maybe the OP or CO-OPs or maybe even a popular vote could decide the success of the ambush.

The Internationale would know about the meeting because Perm is a large city with plenty of people in it - some of with are undoubtedly communists. They (Hypothetically) could of acted independently.

[Lunas Legion]

Umanov won't buy it. He just made a deal with the Communists, and a spontaneous attack by them right after is anything but believable. Again, the Brandenburgers are as good as dead.

Did you inform them you were talking with the Germans? And besides, the Communists - even the internationale - are anything but a completely organized, er, organization. Communciations are likely hard to get deeply into Russia, and perhaps not even all of the Communists know that a deal was made with the FRL.

Anyhow, maybe the OP or CO-OPs or maybe even a popular vote could decide the success of the ambush.

The Internationale would know about the meeting because Perm is a large city with plenty of people in it - some of with are undoubtedly communists. They (Hypothetically) could of acted independently.

>Acted independently (off the spur of the moment)
>Obtained MG42s and Panzerfausts with ammo and hidden them.
Wut.

[Aldelxane]

Grand, please judge and consider the facts.
(Especially the fact that the International doesn't really operate in European Russia these days, much less heavily equip people to break agreements)

[Carathon]

Did you inform them you were talking with the Germans? And besides, the Communists - even the internationale - are anything but a completely organized, er, organization. Communciations are likely hard to get deeply into Russia, and perhaps not even all of the Communists know that a deal was made with the FRL.

Anyhow, maybe the OP or CO-OPs or maybe even a popular vote could decide the success of the ambush.

The Internationale would know about the meeting because Perm is a large city with plenty of people in it - some of with are undoubtedly communists. They (Hypothetically) could of acted independently.

>Acted independently (off the spur of the moment)
>Obtained MG42s and Panzerfausts with ammo and hidden them.
Wut.

It's 1958, MG42s and Panzerfausts are somewhat old. And they weren't elaborately hidden - just in portable crates and under trenchcoats ( in case of the panzerfaust, they aren't that big you know. )

Besides, when you're under fire and the shit is being blown out of you, you aren't likely to stop, look around and think about every little logistical impossibility. Especially considering partisans and the Russian populace in general aren't the most intelligent.

[Corenea]

Grand, please judge and consider the facts.
(Especially the fact that the International doesn't really operate in European Russia these days, much less heavily equip people to break agreements)

Yeah, I have to agree, it's more godmoddish

[Carathon]

Grand, please judge and consider the facts.
(Especially the fact that the International doesn't really operate in European Russia these days, much less heavily equip people to break agreements)

Yeah, I have to agree, it's more godmoddish

Elaborate? I actually posted Brandenburgers being sent to major cities independent of the High Command that ordered all the German soldiers out before the meeting went down. Check if you want.

[Granadeseret]

Well, I would assert is is viable the Ambush succeeds: after all, the Russian Resistance's move into Perm this quickly had to have been a fairly disorgnized affair, so the Germans could have snuck in with them. However, after the shooting started, I would think the groups in question would have been easy to pin down and kill. In all likelyhood, some damage was done to the city, and a few notable Russian Resistance personalities killed, but the leadership would be able to extradite itself mostly intact. From a distance, in the spur of the moment and chaos, it would be hard to tell the diffrences between who the Germans claimed they were and who they actually were.

However, once its done and corpses were investigated, I'm fairly certain something is going to look fishy; the guns are only going to look worn, not actually very worn, and there will be far too many with too large a supply base to be an Internationle group pulled together so quickly. That, and the fact that ethnically they're Germans will leave, once this is all said and done, proof that Germany was behind this. Can everybody agree on that?

[Corenea]

So who are the co-ops?

[Granadeseret]

So who are the co-ops?

Caratheon and Corenea.

[Carathon]

Well, I would assert is is viable the Ambush succeeds: after all, the Russian Resistance's move into Perm this quickly had to have been a fairly disorgnized affair, so the Germans could have snuck in with them. However, after the shooting started, I would think the groups in question would have been easy to pin down and kill. In all likelyhood, some damage was done to the city, and a few notable Russian Resistance personalities killed, but the leadership would be able to extradite itself mostly intact. From a distance, in the spur of the moment and chaos, it would be hard to tell the diffrences between who the Germans claimed they were and who they actually were.

However, once its done and corpses were investigated, I'm fairly certain something is going to look fishy; the guns are only going to look worn, not actually very worn, and there will be far too many with too large a supply base to be an Internationle group pulled together so quickly. That, and the fact that ethnically they're Germans will leave, once this is all said and done, proof that Germany was behind this. Can everybody agree on that?

This is fine, except that the Heer will probably move back into Perm once they get news of the fighting making it very difficult for the resistance to go back and look at the evidence ( remember, the Heer pulled back only ten miles from the city. )

[Carathon]

So who are the co-ops?

Caratheon and Corenea.

I didn't agree to be CO-OP!!11111

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