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What should we do?

Reboot
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28%
Continue where we left off
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Continue with a few years random events
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Go to Taco Bell.
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Total votes : 46

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The Vekta-Helghast Empire
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:41 pm

Zepplien wrote:
The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:I just had an evil plan to cripple the English economy.. Mwahaha! MWAHAHAHAHA-*almost choke to death due to his own hilarity*

Does it involve the Dutch getting rich?
If not I don't like it


If you invest in Scottish oil it does..

Hint: England relies on foreign oil to sustain itself.

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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:42 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:Juan Peron is. The whole authoritarian atmosphere and closer economic relations with Germany kept him from going under and being kicked out, as well as the Red Scare South America has been experiencing in Bolivia and Peru, and now Brazil.


And the 14th of July Movement has just arrived in Peru, so hopefully things there will soon come to a head. Also, does this mean Brazil, Paraguay and Uruaguay are all now Communist?


Brazil's major cities and industrial and population centers rose up in a Communist revolt, but the former government still exists, from a secret base of operations in the Amazon rainforest, and many cities have not yet fallen. Paraguay and Uruaguay are not Communist, but they have strong communists movements who are fighting with and supplying the Socialist Republic of Amazonia.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:44 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
And the 14th of July Movement has just arrived in Peru, so hopefully things there will soon come to a head. Also, does this mean Brazil, Paraguay and Uruaguay are all now Communist?


Brazil's major cities and industrial and population centers rose up in a Communist revolt, but the former government still exists, from a secret base of operations in the Amazon rainforest, and many cities have not yet fallen. Paraguay and Uruaguay are not Communist, but they have strong communists movements who are fighting with and supplying the Socialist Republic of Amazonia.


Rough numbers of supporters in Brazil, Uruguay, and Paraguay?
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:45 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Maybe a March on Newcastle is in order


Have fun with that when the oil stops flowing to England.

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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:47 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Brazil's major cities and industrial and population centers rose up in a Communist revolt, but the former government still exists, from a secret base of operations in the Amazon rainforest, and many cities have not yet fallen. Paraguay and Uruaguay are not Communist, but they have strong communists movements who are fighting with and supplying the Socialist Republic of Amazonia.


Rough numbers of supporters in Brazil, Uruguay, and Paraguay?


Brazil: 29 million (Not all armed, of course: Just people who voted for Left-of-Center parties who are against Right-Wing rule)
Paraguay: 400,000, but growing
Uruguay: 1.4 million (They're actually pretty much Communist)

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:53 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Rough numbers of supporters in Brazil, Uruguay, and Paraguay?


Brazil: 29 million (Not all armed, of course: Just people who voted for Left-of-Center parties who are against Right-Wing rule)
Paraguay: 400,000, but growing
Uruguay: 1.4 million (They're actually pretty much Communist)


That's almost half the population of Brazil. So they've seized equipment from the Brazilian Army I presume? What are their chances of resisting a full-on attack by Argentina?
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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:55 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Brazil: 29 million (Not all armed, of course: Just people who voted for Left-of-Center parties who are against Right-Wing rule)
Paraguay: 400,000, but growing
Uruguay: 1.4 million (They're actually pretty much Communist)


That's almost half the population of Brazil. So they've seized equipment from the Brazilian Army I presume? What are their chances of resisting a full-on attack by Argentina?


Well, the military is largely loyal (after all, a military dictatorship is not something they want to lose), but the Communist have seized control of several depots. The Socialists don't have many tanks or planes, but they do have all the small arms they need.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:57 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
That's almost half the population of Brazil. So they've seized equipment from the Brazilian Army I presume? What are their chances of resisting a full-on attack by Argentina?


Well, the military is largely loyal (after all, a military dictatorship is not something they want to lose), but the Communist have seized control of several depots. The Socialists don't have many tanks or planes, but they do have all the small arms they need.


I think it's time the Internationale committed its 'strategic reserve' that has been held in Persia and Afganistan to ensure the Brazilian Revolution succeeds.
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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:59 pm

What to do.... Lunas, can we re-design this idea? It's evident Siberia REALLY doesn't want to be ruled by a dictator.....
(Honestly, I think no part of Russia is currently right for Stalin's return. I suggest carving out a state somewhere else.)
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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:03 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:


Provisionally accepted: just be sure to get some kind of military numbers before making military moves.

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Postby Corenea » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:03 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Well, the military is largely loyal (after all, a military dictatorship is not something they want to lose), but the Communist have seized control of several depots. The Socialists don't have many tanks or planes, but they do have all the small arms they need.


I think it's time the Internationale committed its 'strategic reserve' that has been held in Persia and Afganistan to ensure the Brazilian Revolution succeeds.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:05 pm

Aldelxane wrote:What to do.... Lunas, can we re-design this idea? It's evident Siberia REALLY doesn't want to be ruled by a dictator.....
(Honestly, I think no part of Russia is currently right for Stalin's return. I suggest carving out a state somewhere else.)


Most of the Internationale's support is in Russia. Unless a mass immigration of Communist Russians to the possible Communist state in Brazil, then expect to have to fight the Internationale once you've gained independence.
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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:06 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:What to do.... Lunas, can we re-design this idea? It's evident Siberia REALLY doesn't want to be ruled by a dictator.....
(Honestly, I think no part of Russia is currently right for Stalin's return. I suggest carving out a state somewhere else.)


Most of the Internationale's support is in Russia. Unless a mass immigration of Communist Russians to the possible Communist state in Brazil, then expect to have to fight the Internationale once you've gained independence.

The problem is Siberia, however. We've made an agreement OOC, but they're asking the resistance for help IC. (random event)
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:09 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Most of the Internationale's support is in Russia. Unless a mass immigration of Communist Russians to the possible Communist state in Brazil, then expect to have to fight the Internationale once you've gained independence.

The problem is Siberia, however. We've made an agreement OOC, but they're asking the resistance for help IC. (random event)


Or they don't want to have to ask Stalin to help.
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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:10 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:The problem is Siberia, however. We've made an agreement OOC, but they're asking the resistance for help IC. (random event)


Or they don't want to have to ask Stalin to help.

Which means they don't want Stalin.

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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:11 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:The problem is Siberia, however. We've made an agreement OOC, but they're asking the resistance for help IC. (random event)


Or they don't want to have to ask Stalin to help.


Well, Siberia was built on the backs of White Russian prisoners Stalin threw into Siberian Gulags and broke out to fight for Japan, so...

They'd rather eat dirt then ask for Communist assistance.

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:12 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Or they don't want to have to ask Stalin to help.


Well, Siberia was built on the backs of White Russian prisoners Stalin threw into Siberian Gulags and broke out to fight for Japan, so...

They'd rather eat dirt then ask for Communist assistance.

Which means the Communists really don't have that much popular support in Russia atm. Hence, it'd be more productive for the International to create a Communist state for Stalin to rule somewhere else.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:13 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Or they don't want to have to ask Stalin to help.


Well, Siberia was built on the backs of White Russian prisoners Stalin threw into Siberian Gulags and broke out to fight for Japan, so...

They'd rather eat dirt then ask for Communist assistance.


Exactly. Although what's the current situation in Turkomenistan and it's relations with the surrounding nations?
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Postby Corenea » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:13 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Well, Siberia was built on the backs of White Russian prisoners Stalin threw into Siberian Gulags and broke out to fight for Japan, so...

They'd rather eat dirt then ask for Communist assistance.

Which means the Communists really don't have that much popular support in Russia atm. Hence, it'd be more productive for the International to create a Communist state for Stalin to rule somewhere else.

Just not in Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, North America, Bahamas, or the Carribeans
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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:15 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Well, Siberia was built on the backs of White Russian prisoners Stalin threw into Siberian Gulags and broke out to fight for Japan, so...

They'd rather eat dirt then ask for Communist assistance.


Exactly. Although what's the current situation in Turkomenistan and it's relations with the surrounding nations?


Turkomenistan is a protectorate of the Ottoman Empire. They're highly pro-German and Pro-Ottoman, and are warm towards Mongolia and The Warlord Confederation. Relations with Siberia are fine, but are staunch Anti-Stalinists.

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:15 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Well, Siberia was built on the backs of White Russian prisoners Stalin threw into Siberian Gulags and broke out to fight for Japan, so...

They'd rather eat dirt then ask for Communist assistance.


Exactly. Although what's the current situation in Turkomenistan and it's relations with the surrounding nations?

Which supports my original claim. Stalin hasn't been very popular in Russia since the dissolution of the USSR in the 1940s.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:17 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Exactly. Although what's the current situation in Turkomenistan and it's relations with the surrounding nations?

Which supports my original claim. Stalin hasn't been very popular in Russia since the dissolution of the USSR in the 1940s.


Although these are the people he threw into gulags, so they aren't exactly the average Russian.
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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:18 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Which supports my original claim. Stalin hasn't been very popular in Russia since the dissolution of the USSR in the 1940s.


Although these are the people he threw into gulags, so they aren't exactly the average Russian.


Well, there was also the small matter of Stalin losing the war and fleeing in their hour of need, and the breakdown of the Red Army resulting in many raids on Russian citizens for supply. Stalin isen't all the popular, though he probably still has a 20-30% approval rating.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:19 pm

Corenea wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Which means the Communists really don't have that much popular support in Russia atm. Hence, it'd be more productive for the International to create a Communist state for Stalin to rule somewhere else.

Just not in Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, North America, Bahamas, or the Carribeans


The Cuban Revolutionaries have skipped the homeland revolution and gone straight to exporting it. Is Brazil/Peru/Paraguay/Uruguay alright as a (possible) Communist state?
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Postby Granadeseret » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:21 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Corenea wrote:Just not in Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, North America, Bahamas, or the Carribeans


The Cuban Revolutionaries have skipped the homeland revolution and gone straight to exporting it. Is Brazil/Peru/Paraguay/Uruguay alright as a (possible) Communist state?


Boliva is also a Communist hotbed, so a United Socialist South American Republics is not out of the question... though, America standing for it is another matter...

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