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What should we do?

Reboot
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Continue where we left off
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Continue with a few years random events
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Go to Taco Bell.
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Total votes : 46

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Carathon
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:16 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
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The majority of the Germans are about to retreat back to their Moscow lines when they notice the partisans getting tired of their shit.

How many troops are currently in Moscow?


In the actual city, or in the Kommissariat?
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:17 pm

Carathon wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:How many troops are currently in Moscow?


In the actual city, or in the Kommissariat?

List both. (subtract all in Banditenland)

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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:21 pm

So (assuming I'm still allowed to post here) what's been happening since I was fired as China? Looks like Russia is gearing up for a three-way.


Also, if I am allowed to post here still after the Great Retcon, expect a forthcoming app for Mughalstan.
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Carathon
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:24 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Carathon wrote:
In the actual city, or in the Kommissariat?

List both. (subtract all in Banditenland)


Say I have about 1.2 million soldiers and military policing forces in Russia.

445,000 in the Kommissariat. Perhaps 65,000 in the city of the Moscow itself.

Then I currently have a total of around 420,000 in Banditenland because I sent 300,000 in, have around 80,000 manning the Ural defenses and another few ten thousand manning forts in Banditenland.

What's left over is in Ukraine and Ostland.
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Granadeseret
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Postby Granadeseret » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:34 pm

YAHOO! Finally, my first IC post! *Does little dance*

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Postby Granadeseret » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:36 pm

Senkaku wrote:So (assuming I'm still allowed to post here) what's been happening since I was fired as China? Looks like Russia is gearing up for a three-way.


Also, if I am allowed to post here still after the Great Retcon, expect a forthcoming app for Mughalstan.


Senkaku, no hard feelings: I have no issues with your RP skills (You're amazing, in fact): you're allowed to post here anytime you like. Mughalstan is yours if you want it... and would probably be better suited for you needs. Your style needs a little more power and finance behind it then Republican China could provide.

But... don't say that. We already had a bad Hetalia fan-fic teaser line. We don't need another.

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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:36 pm

Granadeseret wrote:YAHOO! Finally, my first IC post! *Does little dance*

*meanwhile, back in Russia*
Complete chaos is about to ensue. Seriously.
I think in the end Russia will be the martyr that breaks Germany, and I will have to switch to another nation.
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:43 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:YAHOO! Finally, my first IC post! *Does little dance*

*meanwhile, back in Russia*
Complete chaos is about to ensue. Seriously.
I think in the end Russia will be the martyr that breaks Germany, and I will have to switch to another nation.


I think, if the partisans are going to face the Wehrmacht in open combat it's going to be the death of them. Depending on how well it's done, it might, indeed, take Germany down with them.
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:45 pm

Carathon wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:*meanwhile, back in Russia*
Complete chaos is about to ensue. Seriously.
I think in the end Russia will be the martyr that breaks Germany, and I will have to switch to another nation.


I think, if the partisans are going to face the Wehrmacht in open combat it's going to be the death of them. Depending on how well it's done, it might, indeed, take Germany down with them.

Heres my dillemma:
1. Guerrilla warfare is now impossible
2. No matter what I do, most of European Russia will starve to death
3. See #1

You've basically given me this choice: wait another 100 years for the forest to come back, or face you in open combat.

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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:47 pm

So...


What would happen to all my posts thus far regarding China? What Luna's suggested, with a front south of the Yangtze, and the Republic controlling Yunnan and much of the south? It would be pretty far south, the initial Northern assault would be devastating by any standards. And actually, the Japanese did give me permission. Land&Sea and I just decided to hash out the agreement and meeting of our dignitaries via TG rather than clutter the thread.


If that's viable, I may stick with China. I'm already doing a co-op nuclear program with the Mughals, and have some stolen information, so that takes much of the pressure off the funding for that, at least for now.
As for the carrier, it's one bloody carrier.
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Carathon
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:49 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Carathon wrote:
I think, if the partisans are going to face the Wehrmacht in open combat it's going to be the death of them. Depending on how well it's done, it might, indeed, take Germany down with them.

Heres my dillemma:
1. Guerrilla warfare is now impossible
2. No matter what I do, most of European Russia will starve to death
3. See #1

You've basically given me this choice: wait another 100 years for the forest to come back, or face you in open combat.


Remind me if we ever find ourselves in a redux of this roleplay for us to switch roles. I want to see how well I can do as a partisan.
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:51 pm

Carathon wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Heres my dillemma:
1. Guerrilla warfare is now impossible
2. No matter what I do, most of European Russia will starve to death
3. See #1

You've basically given me this choice: wait another 100 years for the forest to come back, or face you in open combat.


Remind me if we ever find ourselves in a redux of this roleplay for us to switch roles. I want to see how well I can do as a partisan.

If I did what you did in one post all of a sudden, you'd fare about the same.

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Carathon
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:53 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Carathon wrote:
Remind me if we ever find ourselves in a redux of this roleplay for us to switch roles. I want to see how well I can do as a partisan.

If I did what you did in one post all of a sudden, you'd fare about the same.


To be fair, I was rping getting the Luftwaffe ready and preparing the Wehrmacht for quite some time.
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:54 pm

Carathon wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:If I did what you did in one post all of a sudden, you'd fare about the same.


To be fair, I was rping getting the Luftwaffe ready and preparing the Wehrmacht for quite some time.

Not really. One does not simply destroy the entire forest across hundreds of square miles. Wait... America tried that with Agent Orange especially designed to kill plantsin Vietnam, and still failed. You are using fire and conventional bombs, and suddenly eliminated an area of forest many times the size of the entirety of Vietnam....
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:59 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Carathon wrote:
To be fair, I was rping getting the Luftwaffe ready and preparing the Wehrmacht for quite some time.

Not really. One does not simply destroy the entire forest across hundreds of square miles. Wait... America tried that with Agent Orange especially designed to kill plantsin Vietnam, and still failed. You are using fire and conventional bombs, and suddenly eliminated an area of forest many times the size of the entirety of Vietnam....


I didn't say they were completely destroyed yet. Forest fires were started, which are currently raging. Besides, firebombs do not equal agent orange. Firebombing destroyed entire cities like tokyo and Dresden.
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:00 pm

Carathon wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Not really. One does not simply destroy the entire forest across hundreds of square miles. Wait... America tried that with Agent Orange especially designed to kill plantsin Vietnam, and still failed. You are using fire and conventional bombs, and suddenly eliminated an area of forest many times the size of the entirety of Vietnam....


I didn't say they were completely destroyed yet. Forest fires were started, which are currently raging. Besides, firebombs do not equal agent orange. Firebombing destroyed entire cities like tokyo and Dresden.

Only after Allied bombers dropped so many that the bombs literally couldn't ignite due to lack of oxygen, even on Tokyo which was made primarily of rice paper and wood and the time. It would be insanely expensive to do that to hundreds of miles of forest.


Defoliants, though, if used properly and not like Agent Orange, could work.
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:02 pm

Carathon wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Not really. One does not simply destroy the entire forest across hundreds of square miles. Wait... America tried that with Agent Orange especially designed to kill plantsin Vietnam, and still failed. You are using fire and conventional bombs, and suddenly eliminated an area of forest many times the size of the entirety of Vietnam....


I didn't say they were completely destroyed yet. Forest fires were started, which are currently raging. Besides, firebombs do not equal agent orange. Firebombing destroyed entire cities like tokyo and Dresden.

Cities are teenie tiny pinpricks in comparison to what you are trying to do. I should look at this again tomorrow with a clear head, I should still be able to completely annihilate your forces in Banditenland, or kill so many that they start to desert in large numbers.
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:04 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Carathon wrote:
I didn't say they were completely destroyed yet. Forest fires were started, which are currently raging. Besides, firebombs do not equal agent orange. Firebombing destroyed entire cities like tokyo and Dresden.

Only after Allied bombers dropped so many that the bombs literally couldn't ignite due to lack of oxygen, even on Tokyo which was made primarily of rice paper and wood and the time. It would be insanely expensive to do that to hundreds of miles of forest.


Defoliants, though, if used properly and not like Agent Orange, could work.

Unfortunately he has developed no defoliants and he has not made produced them. Anyhow, even used right, this is much larger than the entirety of Vietnam.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:05 pm

Plus Banditenland doesn't have all that many forests.
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:06 pm

Senkaku wrote:Plus Banditenland doesn't have all that many forests.

Banditenland=Western Ural Federal District
Nonsense.

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Carathon
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:07 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Carathon wrote:
I didn't say they were completely destroyed yet. Forest fires were started, which are currently raging. Besides, firebombs do not equal agent orange. Firebombing destroyed entire cities like tokyo and Dresden.

Only after Allied bombers dropped so many that the bombs literally couldn't ignite due to lack of oxygen, even on Tokyo which was made primarily of rice paper and wood and the time. It would be insanely expensive to do that to hundreds of miles of forest.


Defoliants, though, if used properly and not like Agent Orange, could work.


True. Though if dropped stragatically, could they not start forest fires which could go out of control, and over the course of weeks / months devastate the woods?
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:09 pm

Carathon wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Only after Allied bombers dropped so many that the bombs literally couldn't ignite due to lack of oxygen, even on Tokyo which was made primarily of rice paper and wood and the time. It would be insanely expensive to do that to hundreds of miles of forest.


Defoliants, though, if used properly and not like Agent Orange, could work.


True. Though if dropped stragatically, could they not start forest fires which could go out of control, and over the course of weeks / months devastate the woods?

That's like saying: "I KNOW! LET'S BURN DOWN ALL THE FOREST IN NEW ENGLAND", but worse.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:09 pm

Carathon wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Only after Allied bombers dropped so many that the bombs literally couldn't ignite due to lack of oxygen, even on Tokyo which was made primarily of rice paper and wood and the time. It would be insanely expensive to do that to hundreds of miles of forest.


Defoliants, though, if used properly and not like Agent Orange, could work.


True. Though if dropped stragatically, could they not start forest fires which could go out of control, and over the course of weeks / months devastate the woods?

Over that kind of area?


No. Even if you have every bomber in the Luftwaffe flying, you might as well just nuke them or drop bombs laced with radioactive cobalt. Or buy a lot of phosgene and sarin.
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Postby Carathon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:11 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Carathon wrote:
True. Though if dropped stragatically, could they not start forest fires which could go out of control, and over the course of weeks / months devastate the woods?

Over that kind of area?


No. Even if you have every bomber in the Luftwaffe flying, you might as well just nuke them or drop bombs laced with radioactive cobalt. Or buy a lot of phosgene and sarin.


Brilliant idea.
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:12 pm

Here's some perspective:
1. Take modern day Germany, fill it with woods
2. Multiply by 6
3. Put it in a region covered with wet snow
4. Try to burn it all down

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