New Imperialism - AH RP v 1.2 [OOC, Signup]

[Rephesus]

Nationalism fools people into many things, including believing that they can win against world powers.

In any case, don't forget that Red Knife will be aiding them (secretly of course) and the Mughals might decide to step in.

The Mughals are allied to Eurasia and France.

It'd essentially be Italy, Greece, Eurasia, and France against the Turks. The only person who could help them, the Mughals, are allied to two of the people attacking them.

To put it more succinctly, Turkey has less than a snowball's chance in hell. I mean, I don't mind, more free land for the European nations, but it seems a shame.

I don't appreciate you making assumptions about my loyalties. Eurasia will not allow blatant warmongering on its borders. Any territory east of the Bosphorus will not go into the hands of any European power, any Turkish attempt to take land will be met with swift action. Simple as that.

[Rephesus]

The Mughals actually have a very good chance in Turkey, considering the main Rail, the Tehran-Istanbul is controlled by the Mughals, if used properly they could rapidly deploy through Anatolia.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Wait, if you're trying to take Morocco away from me as a potential colony.... I mean...

I am also not in support in the Italians getting Gibraltar, Cadiz, and Tangier. That must belong to an Iberian power.

Wait wait when did i get those lands?

[Mishmahig]

The Mughals are allied to Eurasia and France.

It'd essentially be Italy, Greece, Eurasia, and France against the Turks. The only person who could help them, the Mughals, are allied to two of the people attacking them.

To put it more succinctly, Turkey has less than a snowball's chance in hell. I mean, I don't mind, more free land for the European nations, but it seems a shame.

I don't appreciate you making assumptions about my loyalties. Eurasia will not allow blatant warmongering on its borders. Any territory east of the Bosphorus will not go into the hands of any European power, any Turkish attempt to take land will be met with swift action. Simple as that.

You should read what I'm saying.

The only thing that saved Turkey from being carved up in the first place was French diplomatic intervention. If they go ahead and attack Greece anyway, the French won't care, and everyone will descend on them like jackals, creating our own zones of influence.

There is no "blatant warmongering".

The Mughals actually have a very good chance in Turkey, considering the main Rail, the Tehran-Istanbul is controlled by the Mughals, if used properly they could rapidly deploy through Anatolia.

They're allied with the French and the Eurasians. Why would the Mughals go to war with them over a country they have no alliance with?

[Alleniana]

What even is a Red Knife.

And the Mughals are good friends with Eurasia and are cozying up to the French, so they wouldn't risk their standings.

Turkey can declare, sure, but can they even get to Greece? Like what is the size of their navy? If it is bigger than mine, I also have the Eurasians and Italians next door.

You also have the rest of the FDA. Since they are based in Athens, if Greece is invaded well...

Ooh, I forgot about the FDA.

That means Turkey would be at war with.... France, Greece, Italy, and Eurasia thanks to Greece. They'd also be at war with the United Provinces, the NESA, the NGC, and a couple more people I forget.

Essentially, they'd be at war with most of the world. And almost every world power.

And China.

Not sure how that's relevant to the Mughals intervening in Turkey, but okay.

Turkey is more secular than perhaps even Greece, and certainly less imperialistic and more federal than France. I really can't foresee the FDA joining in.

The Mughals are allied to Eurasia and France.

It'd essentially be Italy, Greece, Eurasia, and France against the Turks. The only person who could help them, the Mughals, are allied to two of the people attacking them.

To put it more succinctly, Turkey has less than a snowball's chance in hell. I mean, I don't mind, more free land for the European nations, but it seems a shame.

I don't appreciate you making assumptions about my loyalties. Eurasia will not allow blatant warmongering on its borders. Any territory east of the Bosphorus will not go into the hands of any European power, any Turkish attempt to take land will be met with swift action. Simple as that.

The Turkish actions are in response to Euraso-Franco-Greco-Blabiddyblah attempts to seize all the coast of the Marmara, which, you can appreciate, is some of Turkey's most productive and rich land, not to mention almost entirely ethnically Turkish.

I don't appreciate you making assumptions about my loyalties. Eurasia will not allow blatant warmongering on its borders. Any territory east of the Bosphorus will not go into the hands of any European power, any Turkish attempt to take land will be met with swift action. Simple as that.

You should read what I'm saying.

The only thing that saved Turkey from being carved up in the first place was French diplomatic intervention. If they go ahead and attack Greece anyway, the French won't care, and everyone will descend on them like jackals, creating our own zones of influence.

There is no "blatant warmongering".

The Mughals actually have a very good chance in Turkey, considering the main Rail, the Tehran-Istanbul is controlled by the Mughals, if used properly they could rapidly deploy through Anatolia.

They're allied with the French and the Eurasians. Why would they go to war with them over a country they have no alliance with?

Turkey has no reason to be grateful because instead of losing an arm, they lose a hand. All the same, they lose, and public opinion therefore dictates challenging that.

[Rephesus]

You don't understand what I'm saying, my point is the Mughals have a great chance of controlling Turkey from a logistic and military perspective. And Eurasia doesn't have an issue with War in Turkey, we just won't tolerate others annexing land.

[Mishmahig]

Ooh, I forgot about the FDA.

That means Turkey would be at war with.... France, Greece, Italy, and Eurasia thanks to Greece. They'd also be at war with the United Provinces, the NESA, the NGC, and a couple more people I forget.

Essentially, they'd be at war with most of the world. And almost every world power.



Not sure how that's relevant to the Mughals intervening in Turkey, but okay.

Turkey is more secular than perhaps even Greece, and certainly less imperialistic and more federal than France. I really can't foresee the FDA joining in.

FDA's headquarters are in Greece, and Greece would certain call for support.

You should read what I'm saying.

The only thing that saved Turkey from being carved up in the first place was French diplomatic intervention. If they go ahead and attack Greece anyway, the French won't care, and everyone will descend on them like jackals, creating our own zones of influence.

There is no "blatant warmongering".



They're allied with the French and the Eurasians. Why would they go to war with them over a country they have no alliance with?

Turkey has no reason to be grateful because instead of losing an arm, they lose a hand. All the same, they lose, and public opinion therefore dictates challenging that.

And.....their reaction to losing is to....attack three major world powers simultaneously? I could understand if it was just one of us, but attacking three?

You don't understand what I'm saying, my point is the Mughals have a great chance of controlling Turkey from a logistic and military perspective. And Eurasia doesn't have an issue with War in Turkey, we just won't tolerate others annexing land.

Okay? The Mughals have a greater chance, that's good for them. They just won't intervene to save Turkey if it means declaring war on two of their allies.

That's fine. France will sit back and watch Eurasia and Italy fight it out after the war's over.

Edit: I think we're miscommunicating here. Why are you mentioning Mughal control/influence?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Greece also heads the FDA, or is at least the president of it or whatever Calt called it. So you can be assured I will be requesting the help of the FDA. And considering Eurasia and France both have super votes they'd likely vote in favor of FDA action.

[Marsisian]

Wait, if you're trying to take Morocco away from me as a potential colony.... I mean...

I am also not in support in the Italians getting Gibraltar, Cadiz, and Tangier. That must belong to an Iberian power.

Wait wait when did i get those lands?

Conch wants you to get those lands when you defeat the Iberians.

[Alleniana]

Oh, for those who don't know; the Red Knife is a terrorist organization founded in the Chinese invasion of Arabia in 1900 or 1901 that quickly grew to be the dominant terrorist organization in the middle east and Islamic world, though it has since been somewhat legitimised due to parts of it forming the Sultanate of Arabia, and other parts negotiating pullouts from countries in return for good things including help for Arabia. I believe it has left Chinese (in return, in conjunction with other things, for Socotra) and British land (Somaliland & Djibouti) so far.

FDA's headquarters are in Greece, and Greece would certain call for support.

By doing so, appearing to put the FDA's member's interests ahead of the FDA's morals, and somewhat delegitimising it internationally. I have to confess that I don't see anybody who doesn't already dislike the FDA who would care though.

Turkey has no reason to be grateful because instead of losing an arm, they lose a hand. All the same, they lose, and public opinion therefore dictates challenging that.

And.....their reaction to losing is to....attack three major world powers simultaneously? I could understand if it was just one of us, but attacking three?

Nationalism blinds. And do keep in mind that they only attack whatever authority attempts to impose the Marmara thing, and if that authority does not explicitly say that it is, say, France, or Eurasia, then they are not at war with them; merely that authority. I suspect you fellows won't distinguish that though.

Also, Constantinople will be supporting them, as well Red Knife and it appears, now, maybe the Mughals, so while a loss is pretty much guaranteed, it might not even be as bad as the Marmara zone thing.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

The Mughals try anything in turkey (Which i dont think Val will do) Italy will respond swiftly

[Mishmahig]

The Mughals try anything in turkey (Which i dont think Val will do) Italy will respond swiftly

Nahnah, they won't.

Let's go burn Ankara to the ground!

[Alleniana]

The Mughals try anything in turkey (Which i dont think Val will do) Italy will respond swiftly

Arabia (psychotically insane super-Islamic dictatorship that they are) might well invade Assyria for the lelz if that happens.

world war here we come

The Mughals try anything in turkey (Which i dont think Val will do) Italy will respond swiftly

Nahnah, they won't.

Let's go burn Ankara to the ground!

>implying losing Bursa, Edirne, Gallipoli, etc. is as bad as that

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Italy can into Persia!

Hey if the Turks really want to risk that, so be it. I won't mind seeing a centuries old foe partitioned by the European powers.

[Valentir]

Italy can into Persia!

Hey if the Turks really want to risk that, so be it. I won't mind seeing a centuries old foe partitioned by the European powers.

Don't fucking encourage ICD. I got enough to deal with!


As Emperor of the Mughal Empire I am glad to announce that I couldn't give a fuck about Turkey. Honestly, annex them, I don't care. So long as Istanbul gets renamed to Constantinople and the Greeks make good kebabs, have at em!

[Altito Asmoro]

Nation Name: The Great Shogunate of Japan (also known as the Japanese Empire)

Symbols:
National Flag: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/ ... 5zvitf.jpg
National Colors: Red and White (though sometimes blue or black)
Coat of Arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... st.svg.png

Population:
44.000.000

Location/Claims:
http://i.imgur.com/xc54543.png
Modern day Japan as well as most of Polynesia

Capital City:
Tokyo, Japan

Government Type:
Constitutional Monarchy

Ideology:
Imperialism, Nationalism, Westernization

Leader/s:
Empress: Shogun-Empress Yasu
Diet: Diet Sutoku

Economy:
A gradually westernizing nation that is opening up to capitalism and such. Has free trade policies but as well as tariffs and taxes to help protect domestic companies. Japan's main exports include: fish, whaling, industrialized goods, and the likes. It imports many of the resources it needs due to its location. With the expansive areas, which includes Polynesia, tourism is encouraged with shipping industry as well, with Japan Shipping Corporation (JSC) as the forefront of the shipping.

Infrastructure:
A developing infrastructure that is based on the best in the West. The Empire is currently expanding its road system and copying that of the West and China, and now also focusing on its shipping industry and maritime networks, to gains the benefits of the expansion to Polynesia.

Army:
The army's total number is roughly 550,000. Ever since the restoration, official military academies have opened in multiple cities were the soldiers are trained. All the soldiers in the Japanese army are professionally trained. Ranks follow that of the West but are renamed to fit the culture of Japan. Officers have inherited the role of Samurai on the battlefield.

Navy:
The navy is the prized gem of the nation. It is the best navy in all of the Pacific with over 500k men working many different ships. Ships range from high quality coastal defense ships to cruisers. There are more than what's listed below produced, but this is what's in commission.More focus on the navy in order to expand the already-large naval with the maritime networks.

8 Pre-Dreadnought ships
16 Coastal defense ships
5 Armoured cruisers
15 Light cruisers
38 Destroyers
44 Torpedo boats
4 Submarines

Goals:
1. Purchase or take land within the Pacific
2. Expand trade with western nations
3. Grow sphere of influence

History:
Unlike in OTL, Japan opened up to western nations in the 1600's. At the time however it was struggling from a variety of social problems that lead to it being quite defenseless. It was much weaker than it should have been but it was open to trade. It watched as nations like China grew in power and the west grew stronger. It was this desire that lead it the restoration. In the 1820's it was decided that Japan needed to modernize. They then sent out loads of people to Europe to learn their secrets. From their they implemented the best systems of education, infrastructure, government, and more. But this could only happen after much social change. In the 1800's a new Shogun took to power by the name of Meiji. From their he lead multiple uprising in other shogun's ares and eventually expanded his power. The emperor was helpless and eventually he took over all of Japan. He was the Chosen Shogun. From their he established himself as the new emperor in 1819. It was this that was considered the 'restoration' as he restored power to the emperor, granted a new emperor, and modernized Japan. Now, 80 years since the Great Shogunate of Japan was founded, it has undergone much of the process of modernization. Its companies work in other nations like China and Dutch Indonesia and help to advance the nation. Granted it is not as developed as other nations, it is still quite powerful and posses the best navy in the Pacific. Having undergone the 'Naval Restoration' in the 1880's it expanded its influence and lead what was known as the Polynesia Campaign in 1890s. This was the first time submarines were used in battle as they had been invented much earlier than in OTL. As well the first Japanese Dreadnought was invented at the end of the campaign in 1899. Now the year is 1900 and the empire of the rising sun is coming about.

RP Sample:
Many things.
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[Alleniana]

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Government & ideology detail, also fix symbol links

[Marsisian]

Am I accepted? I did everything you asked.

[Alleniana]

Am I accepted? I did everything you asked.

da

[Marsisian]

Am I accepted? I did everything you asked.

da

Okay.

[Alleniana]

da

Okay.

Though, actually, elaborate on ideology, and perhaps lower the number who support you.

[Marsisian]

Okay.

Though, actually, elaborate on ideology, and perhaps lower the number who support you.

All right.

[Marsisian]

Edited.

[Schweinehund]

Then you will die as well as the Iberian government and we will go back to the old plan of putting an Ethnic Italian puppet in charge.

Fine, fine. The Italians can have their land.

Also, are there any other alliances?

You can join the Pacific Treaty

[Altito Asmoro]

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Government & ideology detail, also fix symbol links

What details?