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[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Why do you keep bringing the Fascism up, where it does not belong in a conversation, is this just to spite me because i am an Italian Fascist?They Fascism has nothing to do with Colonization of Arabia. Its not hard to control a very tiny population in a desert.

Well seeing as this tiny population likely outnumbers you around 3-1 and that Assyria is a poor and war torn stain on the map, I highly doubt that the regime can 'conquer' Arabia. Additionally, having italian catholics try to conquer and subdue a very militaristic and very islamic population never ends well. Refer to every crusade, ww2, and pretty much every conflict where Europeans attempted to colonize Arabia. And frankly, Assyria is no British Empire.

Anyway, if the italian regime invades any islamic country, the Mughal Empire will be forced to incite a 'regime change' by any means required.

The First Crusade was a massive fucking success.....and we are Secular-ish

[Marsisian]

Well seeing as this tiny population likely outnumbers you around 5-1 and that Assyria is a poor and war torn stain on the map, I highly doubt that the regime can 'conquer' Arabia. Additionally, having italian catholics try to conquer and subdue a very militaristic and very islamic population never ends well. Refer to every crusade, ww2, and pretty much every conflict where Europeans attempted to colonize Arabia. And frankly, Assyria is no British Empire.

Anyway, if the italian regime invades any islamic country, the Mughal Empire will be forced to incite a 'regime change' by any means required.

Why do I get the feeling that the Assyrian government sees itself as that?
Even if oil becomes a widely used and very important resource, Assyrian won't really have a "Global Power" status. If we take a look at Saudi Arabia and Venezuela (two of the highest producers of oil), they are not really world powers.

Is Assyria still trying to invade people?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Well seeing as this tiny population likely outnumbers you around 5-1 and that Assyria is a poor and war torn stain on the map, I highly doubt that the regime can 'conquer' Arabia. Additionally, having italian catholics try to conquer and subdue a very militaristic and very islamic population never ends well. Refer to every crusade, ww2, and pretty much every conflict where Europeans attempted to colonize Arabia. And frankly, Assyria is no British Empire.

Anyway, if the italian regime invades any islamic country, the Mughal Empire will be forced to incite a 'regime change' by any means required.

Why do I get the feeling that the Assyrian government sees itself as that?
Even if oil becomes a widely used and very important resource, Assyrian won't really have a "Global Power" status. If we take a look at Saudi Arabia and Venezuela (two of the highest producers of oil), they are not really world powers.

Even if Assyria becomes the largest producer of oil, they still have little influence in world affairs. Why? Because their economy is a mono-economy. What is a mono-economy? A country's economy that relies entirely in the export of one or two products (narrowing the definition down to this case). So what does that mean? If Assyria gets the fantastic idea of saying "Well, if you do this, I will not sell you oil", then Assyria's economy would say "Thanks a lot man, now I am collapsing for your fault". In other words, it is a reciprocal relationship: oil-consumers need as much of oil-producers as oil-producers need as much of oil-consumers.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Why do I get the feeling that the Assyrian government sees itself as that?
Even if oil becomes a widely used and very important resource, Assyrian won't really have a "Global Power" status. If we take a look at Saudi Arabia and Venezuela (two of the highest producers of oil), they are not really world powers.

Even if Assyria becomes the largest producer of oil, they still have little influence in world affairs. Why? Because their economy is a mono-economy. What is a mono-economy? A country's economy that relies entirely in the export of one or two products (narrowing the definition down to this case). So what does that mean? If Assyria gets the fantastic idea of saying "Well, if you do this, I will not sell you oil", then Assyria's economy would say "Thanks a lot man, now I am collapsing for your fault". In other words, it is a reciprocal relationship: oil-consumers need as much of oil-producers as oil-producers need as much of oil-consumers.

We are trying to develop ourselves..... it is slow but steady, not all of us can be first world powers.

[Rephesus]

Assyria wont become a large oil exporter, there is no way for them to actually conquer Arabia, and there's no demand for oil right now. Like I said, if the Assyrian military leaves its borders, they will not be allowed to advance into Turkey or Arabia. Want to go attack Europe? Be my guest. Raze Lebanon? Sure. The second you move south or even indirectly towards Mecca or even Jordan, the Mughals will intervene.

Also, you can't have secular shiite rulers, they would inspire religion in itself. Plus Tehran is in the Mughal Empire and would easily denounce any secular 'shiites' .

You really should consider being a less aggressive and warmongering nation, maybe fix the economy, build some infrastructure, trade a bit....

[Rephesus]

We are trying to develop ourselves..... it is slow but steady, not all of us can be first world powers.

Pissing off the largest power in your direct area really doesn't help with that. If you want to develop, trade.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Assyria wont become a large oil exporter, there is no way for them to actually conquer Arabia, and there's no demand for oil right now. Like I said, if the Assyrian military leaves its borders, they will not be allowed to advance into Turkey or Arabia. Want to go attack Europe? Be my guest. Raze Lebanon? Sure. The second you move south or even indirectly towards Mecca or even Jordan, the Mughals will intervene.

Also, you can't have secular shiite rulers, they would inspire religion in itself. Plus Tehran is in the Mughal Empire and would easily denounce any secular 'shiites' .

You really should consider being a less aggressive and warmongering nation, maybe fix the economy, build some infrastructure, trade a bit....

I own both Lebanon and Jordan so.........
Are you saying Shiites cant be secular? the Alawites are...for example Al-Assad

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

We are trying to develop ourselves..... it is slow but steady, not all of us can be first world powers.

Pissing off the largest power in your direct area really doesn't help with that. If you want to develop, trade.

I dont trade with the east, i trade with Christian and Secular states in the West

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

We see ourselves as ourselves, We act as we sit fit to better ourselves, We will invade the middle east and set up secular Shiite rulers, Theocracy will no longer be tolerated in the middle east.

Ok, it is your decision after all. Good luck with your endeavors

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Why do I get the feeling that the Assyrian government sees itself as that?
Even if oil becomes a widely used and very important resource, Assyrian won't really have a "Global Power" status. If we take a look at Saudi Arabia and Venezuela (two of the highest producers of oil), they are not really world powers.

Is Assyria still trying to invade people?

As always

[Marsisian]

Is Assyria still trying to invade people?

As always

My god, when will they learn..

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

We are currently industrializing Israel, Lebanon and Iraq/Kuwait anyways
Once the Sons of Job are put into their place we will be much happier

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

As always

My god, when will they learn..

I have done nothing ICly but execute Wahabbist Socialists Rebels...and Crucify Rebellious Imams

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

As always

My god, when will they learn..

At this point I am just letting them do whatever they want. Then, when they crash into the hard, cold wall of reality, we will get to say "We told you so".

[Rephesus]

Pissing off the largest power in your direct area really doesn't help with that. If you want to develop, trade.

I dont trade with the east, i trade with Christian and Secular states in the West

Oh, that's fine. We'll just trade via turkey. Unless you invade them, then we'll have to force our way through.

Anyway, Arabia wold have a tight trade relationship with the Mughals, if you invade them then Assyria ceases to exist. Simple as that.

[Rephesus]

My god, when will they learn..

I have done nothing ICly but execute Wahabbist Socialists Rebels...and Crucify Rebellious Imams

Oh that's borderline casus belli.

Then again this is 1903 right? I don't need casus belli It is reason for my emperor to become very unhappy however. And to think we were looking east....

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

I dont trade with the east, i trade with Christian and Secular states in the West

Oh, that's fine. We'll just trade via turkey. Unless you invade them, then we'll have to force our way through.

Anyway, Arabia wold have a tight trade relationship with the Mughals, if you invade them then Assyria ceases to exist. Simple as that.

Why? if the Rulers stay Muslims then Why invade me? to enforce your Terrorist Agenda?

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

I have done nothing ICly but execute Wahabbist Socialists Rebels...and Crucify Rebellious Imams

Oh that's borderline casus belli.

Then again this is 1903 right? I don't need casus belli It is reason for my emperor to become very unhappy however. And to think we were looking east....

Might i remind you that the normal Sunni and Shiite supported the executions, because Not only did they terrorize Christians, but Muslims too.

[Marsisian]

My god, when will they learn..

At this point I am just letting them do whatever they want. Then, when they crash into the hard, cold wall of reality, we will get to say "We told you so".

Yep.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Oh, that's fine. We'll just trade via turkey. Unless you invade them, then we'll have to force our way through.

Anyway, Arabia wold have a tight trade relationship with the Mughals, if you invade them then Assyria ceases to exist. Simple as that.

Why? if the Rulers stay Muslims then Why invade me? to enforce your Terrorist Agenda?

Not sure if we are on the border line of racism and hate against Muslims... Have been getting that vibe from that player for a while now.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

At this point I am just letting them do whatever they want. Then, when they crash into the hard, cold wall of reality, we will get to say "We told you so".

Yep.

I mean, just think about it: If they do anything that Russia doesn't like, you can just invade! How beneficial would it be for you (and for me)

[Rephesus]

Oh, that's fine. We'll just trade via turkey. Unless you invade them, then we'll have to force our way through.

Anyway, Arabia wold have a tight trade relationship with the Mughals, if you invade them then Assyria ceases to exist. Simple as that.

Why? if the Rulers stay Muslims then Why invade me? to enforce your Terrorist Agenda?

Of course not. But if you're persecuting holy figures for religious reasons, we would be extremely unhappy and likely decide it's time for the italians to leave Assyria.

As for the rulers, if they are obvious puppets, they wont be recognized. I have no issue with Assyria, but when they start invading Arabia then the western Mughals, particularly the Pakistanis and Persians, would be calling for war.

Oh that's borderline casus belli.

Then again this is 1903 right? I don't need casus belli It is reason for my emperor to become very unhappy however. And to think we were looking east....

Might i remind you that the normal Sunni and Shiite supported the executions, because Not only did they terrorize Christians, but Muslims too.

That's ridiculous. Yes some Assyrian puppets may support it, but there's no way the populace would back executions of religious figures.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Why? if the Rulers stay Muslims then Why invade me? to enforce your Terrorist Agenda?

Not sure if we are on the border line of racism and hate against Muslims... Have been getting that vibe from that player for a while now.

Oh no personally, im a Secular person, i dont give shit what religion you are.
I saying Terrorist because the Mughals will likely slaughter the Italian populace,

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Why? if the Rulers stay Muslims then Why invade me? to enforce your Terrorist Agenda?

Of course not. But if you're persecuting holy figures for religious reasons, we would be extremely unhappy and likely decide it's time for the italians to leave Assyria.

As for the rulers, if they are obvious puppets, they wont be recognized. I have no issue with Assyria, but when they start invading Arabia then the western Mughals, particularly the Pakistanis and Persians, would be calling for war.

Might i remind you that the normal Sunni and Shiite supported the executions, because Not only did they terrorize Christians, but Muslims too.

That's ridiculous. Yes some Assyrian puppets may support it, but there's no way the populace would back executions of religious figures.

If they were criminals why would the People not support it.......I didnt execute them because they are Imams i executed them because they were Rebels

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Why? if the Rulers stay Muslims then Why invade me? to enforce your Terrorist Agenda?

Of course not. But if you're persecuting holy figures for religious reasons, we would be extremely unhappy and likely decide it's time for the italians to leave Assyria.

As for the rulers, if they are obvious puppets, they wont be recognized. I have no issue with Assyria, but when they start invading Arabia then the western Mughals, particularly the Pakistanis and Persians, would be calling for war.

Might i remind you that the normal Sunni and Shiite supported the executions, because Not only did they terrorize Christians, but Muslims too.

That's ridiculous. Yes some Assyrian puppets may support it, but there's no way the populace would back executions of religious figures.