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The Enclave Government
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Founded: Jan 24, 2014
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:49 pm

Ptolemais wrote:I think you guys need to remember that water territory does not work the same as land territory. Your ability to restrict travel across water is much more limited than land.


Yet it can be done.
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Hobbesistan
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Postby Hobbesistan » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:50 pm

It would technically violate international law, but Germany can close that off just as easilly if not easier than Iran could close the Straight of Hormuz.

Now Russia can counter with naval escorts for his freighters, but that would turn into WW3-push-here-to-start pretty quick.
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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:50 pm

Someone explain to me why Turkey and Germany are acting like Russia did something bad or why there acting like there at war with Russia.
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Roski
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Postby Roski » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:51 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
Roski wrote:

(casually has a massive amount of land that borders the Baltic sea, a massive block between Germany and Copenhagen would not be hard in the slightest)


When did Denmark agree to this?


Denmark is part of the EU, which is currently run by Germany (unfortunately, since France is highly inactive), and as we see right now, German ships are allowed wherever they want, as long as the nations waters are in the EU. As are British, French, Spanish, etc etc.
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Founded: Jan 26, 2012
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:52 pm

What are you guys debating about? :unsure:
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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:52 pm

You dont seem to realize this simple fact.

Your acting as though were at war, forcing ships to change direction and refusing acsess, your breaking international law.
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Screw the NSA.
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Hungary people need to just eat some endangered animals.
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:53 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:Someone explain to me why Turkey and Germany are acting like Russia did something bad or why there acting like there at war with Russia.

Putin.
*nod*
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:What are you guys debating about? :unsure:
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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:53 pm

Copenhagen practically bows to Merkel, and frankly they aren't fans of Russia, neither is Sweden. Realistically if the EU banned Russian ships from passing through their waters your be forced to use arctic and pacific ports.

Plus with the EU/NATO/ASEAN/India/Japan trade bans, you'd loose the vast majority of your trade partners.

Also Hobbes, you can't remove a P5 member but you can recognize a succeeding government. For example when China went communist and RoC was pushed to Taiwan the UN recognized Beijing's government. This also happens in the GA, for example Laos and Vietnam after their civil wars.

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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:54 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Yet it can be done.


It can be done, but it would be extremely controversial. Especially since you're restricting civilian, not military, traffic.

Most countries in the world have agreed they will not restrict civilian traffic. It is rare that exceptions to this rule occur (i.e. North Korea, Palestine).
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:54 pm

Alleniana wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:What are you guys debating about? :unsure:
god knows, let's run away now


Oh :(
True. I forgot about that :P
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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:54 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:Someone explain to me why Turkey and Germany are acting like Russia did something bad or why there acting like there at war with Russia.

Putin.
*nod*
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:What are you guys debating about? :unsure:
god knows, let's run away now



Allen, please dont quote my posts nor talk to me unless its important. :meh:
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Screw the NSA.
I support gay marriage.
I am against Gay attitudes towards pretty much anything.
Hungary people need to just eat some endangered animals.
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Roski
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Postby Roski » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:55 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:Someone explain to me why Turkey and Germany are acting like Russia did something bad or why there acting like there at war with Russia.


1: You invaded Georgia. Don't say you didn't, South Ossetia (was) Georgia
2: You cut oil and natural gas trade by 75% to Germany
3: You used sanctions on peacekeeper forces
4: We are at war, idiot
5: You continue to screw the world over
6: You are now trying to unfuck yourself, and sorry, Germany and Turkey HATE YOU NOW. No more late night "booty calls" for Putin.

And Reph, it is too late to recognize the Russian Federation.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:55 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:You dont seem to realize this simple fact.

Your acting as though were at war, forcing ships to change direction and refusing acsess, your breaking international law.


You DO realise this is because you, 1, INVADED Georgia, 2, Almost brought the whole world to a ANOTHER recession, 3, Shitting on the global economy, and TWICE almost brought the world into WW3.

YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Hobbesistan
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Postby Hobbesistan » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:56 pm

Roski wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:Someone explain to me why Turkey and Germany are acting like Russia did something bad or why there acting like there at war with Russia.


1: You invaded Georgia. Don't say you didn't, South Ossetia (was) Georgia
2: You cut oil and natural gas trade by 75% to Germany
3: You used sanctions on peacekeeper forces
4: We are at war, idiot
5: You continue to screw the world over
6: You are now trying to unfuck yourself, and sorry, Germany and Turkey HATE YOU NOW. No more late night "booty calls" for Putin.

And Reph, it is too late to recognize the Russian Federation.
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Hobbes
ra, ra rasputin

(Ret.) Maintainer of the Nationstates FAQ and Deletiger (Ret.) of The East Pacific
russia's greatest

Hobbes is always winning, like Charlie Sheen. - Jurisdictions
love machine

Stop right there (hobbes), your rational thought and intellect will destroy the internet. - Sovreignry
it was a shame how

Giraffes think Hobbes regret a lot. A lot of giraffes do. - Rachel
he carried on.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:57 pm

Hobbesistan wrote:
Roski wrote:
1: You invaded Georgia. Don't say you didn't, South Ossetia (was) Georgia
2: You cut oil and natural gas trade by 75% to Germany
3: You used sanctions on peacekeeper forces
4: We are at war, idiot
5: You continue to screw the world over
6: You are now trying to unfuck yourself, and sorry, Germany and Turkey HATE YOU NOW. No more late night "booty calls" for Putin.

And Reph, it is too late to recognize the Russian Federation.

Image


xD
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Waztaskio
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Postby Waztaskio » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:58 pm

Germany went to war with Russia? Oh lord.

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:58 pm

Hobbesistan wrote:
Roski wrote:
1: You invaded Georgia. Don't say you didn't, South Ossetia (was) Georgia
2: You cut oil and natural gas trade by 75% to Germany
3: You used sanctions on peacekeeper forces
4: We are at war, idiot
5: You continue to screw the world over
6: You are now trying to unfuck yourself, and sorry, Germany and Turkey HATE YOU NOW. No more late night "booty calls" for Putin.

And Reph, it is too late to recognize the Russian Federation.
Image

:p I was literally about to put a spoiler on this

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Alleniana wrote:god knows, let's run away now


Oh :(
True. I forgot about that :P
:p I suppose it's a tradition here
You know the 1875 reboot is up?
Waztaskio wrote:Germany went to war with Russia? Oh lord.

meanwhile uk into spess

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:58 pm

Enclave, why do you like Anti-gay? That is not good, you realize that.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:59 pm

Waztaskio wrote:Germany went to war with Russia? Oh lord.


Economic war, though I have a hard time telling the difference in the RP.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:59 pm

Roski wrote:Enclave, why do you like Anti-gay? That is not good, you realize that.

oh god no please don't start a totally irrelevant political debate

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:59 pm

It isn't too late to spring up a Russian puppet government in exile and unanimously vote them as the successors to Moscow thus removing Putins veto.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:00 pm

Roski wrote:Enclave, why do you like Anti-gay? That is not good, you realize that.


Science proves homosexuals serve no purpouse, if everyone was gay then humanity would die out.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:00 pm

Rephesus wrote:It isn't too late to spring up a Russian puppet government in exile and unanimously vote them as the successors to Moscow thus removing Putins veto.


Yes, because we have the power to force a puppet government in Russia...
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Galter Gulcher
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Founded: Sep 21, 2013
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:01 pm

Roski wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:Someone explain to me why Turkey and Germany are acting like Russia did something bad or why there acting like there at war with Russia.


1: You invaded Georgia. Don't say you didn't, South Ossetia (was) Georgia
2: You cut oil and natural gas trade by 75% to Germany
3: You used sanctions on peacekeeper forces
4: We are at war, idiot
5: You continue to screw the world over
6: You are now trying to unfuck yourself, and sorry, Germany and Turkey HATE YOU NOW. No more late night "booty calls" for Putin.

And Reph, it is too late to recognize the Russian Federation.



1: FOR THE LAST TIME, THE OP CONSENTED TO MY PLOT. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND.
2: Witch has since been restored to 100% of normal levels.
3: Peacekeepers? Your troops were going up to the Georgians asking what they could do to help fight off the Russians.
4: What are you talking about? The UN had us come to peace.
5: OOH, I increased the ammount of dollars in the world by a little over 1%. SO WHAT.
6: Please, lets conduct ourselves in a mature maner.
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(-_Q) If you support Capitalism put this in your Signature.
Screw the NSA.
I support gay marriage.
I am against Gay attitudes towards pretty much anything.
Hungary people need to just eat some endangered animals.
Mallorea and Riva should be awarded for their actions.

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Alleniana
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Founded: Dec 23, 2012
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:01 pm

Rephesus wrote:It isn't too late to spring up a Russian puppet government in exile and unanimously vote them as the successors to Moscow thus removing Putins veto.

Wouldn't destabilizing Russia kinda screw world stability over, like, even more than it already is?

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