2015 (Modern World, OOC/Signups, Open, New Thread)

[Roski]

Guys, shhhhh.

When Russia fucks itself hard enough that it cannot afford its nuclear programme, we invade.

[Galter Gulcher]

Plus EU ships could always embargo them in the Sweden-Denmark strait.

I would thought the EU learned its lesson, guess not.

[Roski]

Plus EU ships could always embargo them in the Sweden-Denmark strait.

I would thought the EU learned its lesson, guess not.

Keep talking shit. Europe as a whole doesn't rely on you much anymore. Russia can go fuck itself all it wants.

[Rephesus]

So is Russia going to react to the war games taking place in the island chain it disputes with Japan?

[Forty Twoania]

I would thought the EU learned its lesson, guess not.

Keep talking shit. Europe as a whole doesn't rely on you much anymore. Russia can go fuck itself all it wants.

Yes, Europe does. Energy infrastructure doesnt build itself overnight the US-EU pipeline will take decades and remaking the power grid of Europe so that it doesnt rely on Natural gas will take more

[Roski]

Keep talking shit. Europe as a whole doesn't rely on you much anymore. Russia can go fuck itself all it wants.

Yes, Europe does. Energy infrastructure doesnt build itself overnight the US-EU pipeline will take decades and remaking the power grid of Europe so that it doesnt rely on Natural gas will take more

Why would you use nat gas when it can explode! I have invested in other things.

Besides, why can't I make a self propelling system?

I looked that up, and I got shit about torpedoes and missiles.

[The New Greek Republic]

Keep talking shit. Europe as a whole doesn't rely on you much anymore. Russia can go fuck itself all it wants.

Yes, Europe does. Energy infrastructure doesnt build itself overnight the US-EU pipeline will take decades and remaking the power grid of Europe so that it doesnt rely on Natural gas will take more

Europe won't take as much as a hit as Russia will if Russia isolates itself completely from Europe, as Europe can depend on each other while Russia lost an entire continent of trade.

[The Slavic Federation of Eastern Europe]

Yes, Europe does. Energy infrastructure doesnt build itself overnight the US-EU pipeline will take decades and remaking the power grid of Europe so that it doesnt rely on Natural gas will take more

Europe won't take as much as a hit as Russia will if Russia isolates itself completely from Europe, as Europe can depend on each other while Russia lost an entire continent of trade.

Exactly my point!

[Forty Twoania]

Yes, Europe does. Energy infrastructure doesnt build itself overnight the US-EU pipeline will take decades and remaking the power grid of Europe so that it doesnt rely on Natural gas will take more

1 Why would you use nat gas when it can explode! I have invested in other things.

2 Besides, why can't I make a self propelling system?

3 I looked that up, and I got shit about torpedoes and missiles.

1 You invested in other forms of energy but you still are dependent on Russian Natural gas. Oil explodes too. Remaking an energy grid is very costly and time consuming especially in an already developed country like Germany

2&3 your plan is to launch missiles filled with oil across the Atlantic

[Roski]

Europe won't take as much as a hit as Russia will if Russia isolates itself completely from Europe, as Europe can depend on each other while Russia lost an entire continent of trade.

Exactly my point!

And with Europe turning to other sources as well, namely new middle eastern allies, and South America, as well as Canada and the United States, honestly, while they are still shipping via boat, Russia can literally go fuck itself.

[Roski]

1 Why would you use nat gas when it can explode! I have invested in other things.

2 Besides, why can't I make a self propelling system?

3 I looked that up, and I got shit about torpedoes and missiles.

1 You invested in other forms of energy but you still are dependent on Russian Natural gas. Oil explodes too. Remaking an energy grid is very costly and time consuming especially in an already developed country like Germany

2&3 your plan is to launch missiles filled with oil across the Atlantic

No, a turbine that takes a little coal to warm up, then uses a small fraction of that energy to turn itself, which makes almost all natural resources worthless, except for things other than power.

[Forty Twoania]

Yes, Europe does. Energy infrastructure doesnt build itself overnight the US-EU pipeline will take decades and remaking the power grid of Europe so that it doesnt rely on Natural gas will take more

Europe won't take as much as a hit as Russia will if Russia isolates itself completely from Europe, as Europe can depend on each other while Russia lost an entire continent of trade.

It will hurt Russia too I agree with that but European industry will grind to a halt some countries in Europe will be able to survive on one another but alot of the small countries with little international influence would just collapse most countries would have to ration energy resources

[Alleniana]

Ok, holee shit.
It appears the RP is still going strong; what'd I miss?

Ukrainian split from Russia. I just got here, so I don't know what else is going on.

Wasn't Ukraine already independent?
>.>

1 You invested in other forms of energy but you still are dependent on Russian Natural gas. Oil explodes too. Remaking an energy grid is very costly and time consuming especially in an already developed country like Germany

2&3 your plan is to launch missiles filled with oil across the Atlantic

No, a turbine that takes a little coal to warm up, then uses a small fraction of that energy to turn itself, which makes almost all natural resources worthless, except for things other than power.

wait what, perpetual energy?

[Rephesus]

There's no need for much of that. OPEC can easily make up for what Russia's lost if the EU goes into negotiations with them.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Posted. I will be adding more stuff though

[Ptolemais]

Just a general warning:

Renewable energy is awesome because you can become independant, but if you use it for the majority of your power you should be prepared to have a nearly non-existent manufacturing industry. Renewable energy is wayyyyy more expensive then coal, nat gas or even oil. If you're playing economically, you should always opt for fossil fuels when the opportunity presents itself. Renewable energy should only be considered on a large scale if you're absolutely starved for energy through embargo or what have you.

[Rephesus]

Or if you happen to have a large surplus of aluminium and a very very windy climate, or the Niagara falls

[Roski]

Just a general warning:

Renewable energy is awesome because you can become independant, but if you use it for the majority of your power you should be prepared to have a nearly non-existent manufacturing industry. Renewable energy is wayyyyy more expensive then coal, nat gas or even oil. If you're playing economically, you should always opt for fossil fuels when the opportunity presents itself. Renewable energy should only be considered on a large scale if you're absolutely starved for energy through embargo or what have you.

Well, I do have only 25% of my nat gas,

But, how is it expensive to run, if it literally doesn't need fuel, as it is its fuel.

[Ptolemais]

Well, I do have only 25% of my nat gas,

But, how is it expensive to run, if it literally doesn't need fuel, as it is its fuel.

Maintenance. The technology and expertise is expensive. Much more than coal turbines.

[Roski]

Well, I do have only 25% of my nat gas,

But, how is it expensive to run, if it literally doesn't need fuel, as it is its fuel.

Maintenance. The technology and expertise is expensive. Much more than coal turbines.

But, yes, if I don't have to mine, I can have more workforce for other things, like building cars, and stuff that doesn't require oil.

[The Enclave Government]

Well, I do have only 25% of my nat gas,

But, how is it expensive to run, if it literally doesn't need fuel, as it is its fuel.

Maintenance. The technology and expertise is expensive. Much more than coal turbines.

YEEES but then there is the wonders of capitalism! I just subsidized my clean energy program, so it'll take longer but the taxes dont have to go up, so that's a plus!

[Ptolemais]

YEEES but then there is the wonders of capitalism! I just subsidized my clean energy program, so it'll take longer but the taxes dont have to go up, so that's a plus!

But electricity prices rise. This in turn discourages manufacturing. You either have to spend tons of money subsidizing the energy to the same levels as fossil fuels or you have to wait a few years until the technology becomes more efficient and costs go down.

Renewable energy is only beneficial because it's secure and clean. There is a reason major industrial countries are resisting the change, it's not because they hate the environment.

Also damn, India just confiscated Russian assets

[The Enclave Government]

YEEES but then there is the wonders of capitalism! I just subsidized my clean energy program, so it'll take longer but the taxes dont have to go up, so that's a plus!

But electricity prices rise. This in turn discourages manufacturing. You either have to spend tons of money subsidizing the energy to the same levels as fossil fuels or you have to wait a few years until the technology becomes more efficient and costs go down.

Renewable energy is only beneficial because it's secure and clean. There is a reason major industrial countries are resisting the change, it's not because they hate the environment.

Also damn, India just confiscated Russian assets

meh. Turkey has a high standard of living, so it wont hit to hard. And i'm making iNSANE amounts of money from Russians shipping out of the Black Sea.

[Hobbesistan]

to the U.N egg-heads in here, could a founding permanent member of the security council be removed through a GA resolution?

[Roski]

to the U.N egg-heads in here, could a founding permanent member of the security council be removed through a GA resolution?

I do not believe so. Are we removing Russia?