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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:32 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:
96% of the peninsula supports Russia, how exactly do you plan to force Russia out?

Also, if you kick us out your breaking the 2010 Kharkiv Pact.

As I pointed out last time you claimed this, no population has 96% in agreement to do anything drastic.


Crimea does.
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The Slavic Federation of Eastern Europe
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Postby The Slavic Federation of Eastern Europe » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:32 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The Slavic Federation of Eastern Europe wrote:Well you are not aloud to be there, so technically that is why you shouldn't be there. Otherwise your basically threatening Ukraine's sovereignty.


That 96% obviously does not think so.

Then they could leave if they honestly think they should live in Russia and go live there, by your logic Chechnya should be its own country.

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Forty Twoania
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Postby Forty Twoania » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:33 pm

sadly Russia has the upper hand on this issue. Ukraine is too close to Russia and is a very divided country something that IRL Russia is also exploiting.
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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:34 pm

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:
96% of the peninsula supports Russia, how exactly do you plan to force Russia out?


It's Ukrainian territory. Not Russian.

Plus, by the sounds of what Russia has been doing, I'm sure plenty would lose some support.



Please explain, considering Russia hasnt been doing anything to loose support. It came to the support of an ally, so what. It defended its own economy, so what.


Why wont the government of Ukraine agree to a referundem over Crimea?
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:35 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:sadly Russia has the upper hand on this issue. Ukraine is too close to Russia and is a very divided country something that IRL Russia is also exploiting.


Not really. Russia in this RP is being isolated economically from everywhere so Russia will be on the losing side if it tried anything "funny".
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:35 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
It's Ukrainian territory. Not Russian.

Plus, by the sounds of what Russia has been doing, I'm sure plenty would lose some support.



Please explain, considering Russia hasnt been doing anything to loose support. It came to the support of an ally, so what. It defended its own economy, so what.


Why wont the government of Ukraine agree to a referundem over Crimea?


Because it goes against the Ukrainian constitution, and the country would be losing very important land.
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:36 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
It's Ukrainian territory. Not Russian.

Plus, by the sounds of what Russia has been doing, I'm sure plenty would lose some support.



Please explain, considering Russia hasnt been doing anything to loose support. It came to the support of an ally, so what. It defended its own economy, so what.


Why wont the government of Ukraine agree to a referundem over Crimea?


No one is jumping for giving Russia land. Your the biggest country on earth, you dont need more land.

Also, you ATTACKED Georgia. ATTACKED Turkey's Economy, and ATTACKED the world economy.
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:36 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:

Please explain, considering Russia hasnt been doing anything to loose support. It came to the support of an ally, so what. It defended its own economy, so what.


Why wont the government of Ukraine agree to a referundem over Crimea?


Because it goes against the Ukrainian constitution, and the country would be losing very important land.


Support an ally? What ally if you don't mind me asking? And what economy?
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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:37 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Forty Twoania wrote:sadly Russia has the upper hand on this issue. Ukraine is too close to Russia and is a very divided country something that IRL Russia is also exploiting.


Not really. Russia in this RP is being isolated economically from everywhere so Russia will be on the losing side if it tried anything "funny".



#Dont know what your talking about.
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:37 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:

Please explain, considering Russia hasnt been doing anything to loose support. It came to the support of an ally, so what. It defended its own economy, so what.


Why wont the government of Ukraine agree to a referundem over Crimea?


No one is jumping for giving Russia land. Your the biggest country on earth, you dont need more land.

Also, you ATTACKED Georgia. ATTACKED Turkey's Economy, and ATTACKED the world economy.


^ This.

I still don't understand why Russia in this RP thinks that he can attack the world economy and just walk away like if nothing has happened. The consequences will come.
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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:38 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:

Please explain, considering Russia hasnt been doing anything to loose support. It came to the support of an ally, so what. It defended its own economy, so what.


Why wont the government of Ukraine agree to a referundem over Crimea?


No one is jumping for giving Russia land. Your the biggest country on earth, you dont need more land.

Also, you ATTACKED Georgia. ATTACKED Turkey's Economy, and ATTACKED the world economy.


Incorrect manm.

Georgia attacked South Ossetia.

Turkey helped said invaing side.

10 billion dollars is not terrible for the world economy
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The Enclave Government
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Founded: Jan 24, 2014
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:38 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Not really. Russia in this RP is being isolated economically from everywhere so Russia will be on the losing side if it tried anything "funny".



#Dont know what your talking about.


Hurting the dollar hurts you.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:39 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:

#Dont know what your talking about.


Hurting the dollar hurts you.


It was 10 billion dollars.....
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:39 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
No one is jumping for giving Russia land. Your the biggest country on earth, you dont need more land.

Also, you ATTACKED Georgia. ATTACKED Turkey's Economy, and ATTACKED the world economy.


Incorrect manm.

Georgia attacked South Ossetia.

Turkey helped said invaing side.

10 billion dollars is not terrible for the world economy


Russian SOLDIERs shot GEORGIANS

Georgia REACTED

Turkey sent PEACEKEEPERS.

YES IT DOES.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Founded: Jan 26, 2012
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:40 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
No one is jumping for giving Russia land. Your the biggest country on earth, you dont need more land.

Also, you ATTACKED Georgia. ATTACKED Turkey's Economy, and ATTACKED the world economy.


Incorrect manm.

Georgia attacked South Ossetia.

Turkey helped said invaing side.

10 billion dollars is not terrible for the world economy


But the fact that you are trying to take the US Dollar down is not seen very nicely.
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:41 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Hurting the dollar hurts you.


It was 10 billion dollars.....


let me boil it down

Russia Hurts the Dollar

Dollar loses value

Sanctions means Russia gets LESS dollars

Russia cant trade with the Ruble

Russia cannot print more money without inflation

Russia's economy goes down deep

you fked yourself over.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

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Forty Twoania
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Founded: Oct 30, 2013
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Postby Forty Twoania » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:41 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Forty Twoania wrote:sadly Russia has the upper hand on this issue. Ukraine is too close to Russia and is a very divided country something that IRL Russia is also exploiting.


Not really. Russia in this RP is being isolated economically from everywhere so Russia will be on the losing side if it tried anything "funny".

I'm not going to place an embargo (Im planing on buying Russian products and selling them to Europe at an inflated prices) China probably wont, and their will be other countries with no ties to Ukraine who wish to exploit the situation
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Galter Gulcher
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:42 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:
Incorrect manm.

Georgia attacked South Ossetia.

Turkey helped said invaing side.

10 billion dollars is not terrible for the world economy


Russian SOLDIERs shot GEORGIANS

Georgia REACTED

Turkey sent PEACEKEEPERS.

YES IT DOES.




Russia did war games with SO, Georgians thought the Russians were attacking (they werent) so they shot at Russians, Russians shot back.

Georgia invaded.

Turkey sent troops.


Then get angry at the US next time they do a stimulus program if it matters so much, and if I hurt the world economy so much then quit your bullshit posts about a growing economy.
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:43 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Not really. Russia in this RP is being isolated economically from everywhere so Russia will be on the losing side if it tried anything "funny".

I'm not going to place an embargo (Im planing on buying Russian products and selling them to Europe at an inflated prices) China probably wont, and their will be other countries with no ties to Ukraine who wish to exploit the situation


What country are you again? Also, I don't think you should talk for other countries, let them express themselves.
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:43 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Not really. Russia in this RP is being isolated economically from everywhere so Russia will be on the losing side if it tried anything "funny".

I'm not going to place an embargo (Im planing on buying Russian products and selling them to Europe at an inflated prices) China probably wont, and their will be other countries with no ties to Ukraine who wish to exploit the situation


good luck getting those products, im over-taxing russian commerical transport through the Black Sea to the mediterranean.
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Forty Twoania
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Postby Forty Twoania » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:44 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:
Incorrect manm.

Georgia attacked South Ossetia.

Turkey helped said invaing side.

10 billion dollars is not terrible for the world economy

Russian SOLDIERs shot GEORGIANS

Georgia REACTED

Turkey sent PEACEKEEPERS.

YES IT DOES.

Their are 4.5 trillion dollars circulating in the global economy 10 billion is not that much in comparison
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:45 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Russian SOLDIERs shot GEORGIANS

Georgia REACTED

Turkey sent PEACEKEEPERS.

YES IT DOES.




Russia did war games with SO, Georgians thought the Russians were attacking (they werent) so they shot at Russians, Russians shot back.

Georgia invaded.

Turkey sent troops.


Then get angry at the US next time they do a stimulus program if it matters so much, and if I hurt the world economy so much then quit your bullshit posts about a growing economy.


You mean an stimulus package in which the US economy grows and investors as well as countries around the world benefit? Yes, I will get pissed at the US for giving my workers more work.
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Galter Gulcher
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Founded: Sep 21, 2013
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:47 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:Russian SOLDIERs shot GEORGIANS

Georgia REACTED

Turkey sent PEACEKEEPERS.

YES IT DOES.

Their are 4.5 billion dollars circulating in the global economy 10 billion is not that much in comparison


I think there was a typo there. I think its closer to trillion.
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Forty Twoania
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Postby Forty Twoania » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:47 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Forty Twoania wrote:I'm not going to place an embargo (Im planing on buying Russian products and selling them to Europe at an inflated prices) China probably wont, and their will be other countries with no ties to Ukraine who wish to exploit the situation


good luck getting those products, im over-taxing russian commerical transport through the Black Sea to the mediterranean.

Spanish ships can still go threw. Russia has a few Arctic ports
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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:48 pm

Honestly, Russia is moving down the path of isolation, but they will do fine on their own. They have domestic agriculture, manufacturing industries and tons of resources. Also, the recent Georgia War was worked out by Galter with the OP, so it's not just guessing, it was really was Georgia thinking the Russian training op was an attack. This is canon.

Galter, I really feel for you and I hope you're not taking this personally, the West just hates Russia. Keep up the good work though. Where would this RP be without a bogeyman? :lol2:
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