2015 (Modern World, OOC/Signups, Open, New Thread)

[The Enclave Government]

What have i done...?

[Talanzaar]

You know what, this RP has gotten truly outta hand to the point I don't even know whats going on at all anymore... First it was stuff with germany, then it was Russia/Iran, then something with Turkey and Brazil, then the IRA taking a city, it is getting really stupid. I can barely keep up with the peace talks, and suddenly more stuff that we let slide (Cause we weren't paying that much attention), is starting to be seen and causing more and more problems. I am either A) Going to have to get a brand new IC, and we do a restart, but if everyone is against then B) is that I will just have to leave this RP and I'm sad to say it.

The stuff that doesn't make any sense should be rendered null and void. We should keep some of the changes to the nations though. We should start kicking players that do not follow the rules or ruin the RP with unreal actions.

[Limborg]

You know what, this RP has gotten truly outta hand to the point I don't even know whats going on at all anymore... First it was stuff with germany, then it was Russia/Iran, then something with Turkey and Brazil, then the IRA taking a city, it is getting really stupid. I can barely keep up with the peace talks, and suddenly more stuff that we let slide (Cause we weren't paying that much attention), is starting to be seen and causing more and more problems. I am either A) Going to have to get a brand new IC, and we do a restart, but if everyone is against then B) is that I will just have to leave this RP and I'm sad to say it.

I'm not going to be there. I've put too much effort into these and it's all gone to waste.

Also, no offence Waz, but every RP you've made or been involved in that i've played you've abandoned ship. I can't go through that again, since I feel i'm one of the few people that puts actual effort into my posts. I actually contemplate for a while and do lots of research.

Same here, but most of the time it remained pretty realistic with most of the time proper posts.. Now it just got messed up so far that its hard to fix it in any way...

[Hobbesistan]

I would prefer Waz ragequits the RP over starting over; Deal with the idiots individually, let the rest enjoy the game.

[Kryskov]

To count European Turks ONLY would be the equivalent of counting the Mexican Immigrants in the U.S as part of the Mexican Population of the Sovereign Nation of Mexico.

No, since Turkey controls part of Europe. To include the Asian population of Turkey would be defiling the name of the EU. Should this condition be changed, then Sweden would have to reconsider its vote on Turkey's admittance.

I have to agree on Waz about the RP. I mean, you just let Croatia have a coup d'etat for Christssakes.

[Waztaskio]

I'm not going to be there. I've put too much effort into these and it's all gone to waste.

Also, no offence Waz, but every RP you've made or been involved in that i've played you've abandoned ship. I can't go through that again, since I feel i'm one of the few people that puts actual effort into my posts. I actually contemplate for a while and do lots of research.

Same here, but most of the time it remained pretty realistic with most of the time proper posts.. Now it just got messed up so far that its hard to fix it in any way...

I completely agree that you've put effort in, and like I said above I left the other realistic RP's due to IRL time management problems, but never have I seen a RP that has lost the realism aspect so much, that it came to this.

[Ptolemais]

I don't think this is beyond salvaging, and some players have put a lot of time into this. We shouldn't give up just yet.

But if we do, i'm going to take a hiatus from these RP's for a bit.

[Winovia]

You know what, this RP has gotten truly outta hand to the point I don't even know whats going on at all anymore... First it was stuff with germany, then it was Russia/Iran, then something with Turkey and Brazil, then the IRA taking a city, it is getting really stupid. I can barely keep up with the peace talks, and suddenly more stuff that we let slide (Cause we weren't paying that much attention), is starting to be seen and causing more and more problems. I am either A) Going to have to get a brand new IC, and we do a restart, but if everyone is against then B) is that I will just have to leave this RP and I'm sad to say it.

The stuff that doesn't make any sense should be rendered null and void. We should keep some of the changes to the nations though. We should start kicking players that do not follow the rules or ruin the RP with unreal actions.

[The Enclave Government]

To count European Turks ONLY would be the equivalent of counting the Mexican Immigrants in the U.S as part of the Mexican Population of the Sovereign Nation of Mexico.

No, since Turkey controls part of Europe. To include the Asian population of Turkey would be defiling the name of the EU. Should this condition be changed, then Sweden would have to reconsider its vote on Turkey's admittance.

I have to agree on Waz about the RP. I mean, you just let Croatia have a coup d'etat for Christssakes.

By that logic, your not part of Europe. GTFO. Your logic is that since i share a land border with Asia, that im Asian. You share a border with Finland, which shares with Russia. Therefor, your Asian.

[The Broken Russian States]

You know what, this RP has gotten truly outta hand to the point I don't even know whats going on at all anymore... First it was stuff with germany, then it was Russia/Iran, then something with Turkey and Brazil, then the IRA taking a city, it is getting really stupid. I can barely keep up with the peace talks, and suddenly more stuff that we let slide (Cause we weren't paying that much attention), is starting to be seen and causing more and more problems. I am either A) Going to have to get a brand new IC, and we do a restart, but if everyone is against then B) is that I will just have to leave this RP and I'm sad to say it.

The stuff that doesn't make any sense should be rendered null and void. We should keep some of the changes to the nations though. We should start kicking players that do not follow the rules or ruin the RP with unreal actions.

That's a bit extreme.

We have really only seen a few unreal actions

Germany raises Def spending to second in world: Remedied
Russia invade Am. allies over Sochi: Peace talks in progress
IRA invades NI: Remedied
Iran Fights for democracy: We are working on it.
Turkey to invade SA: Remedied

We really have not gone too far in those respects. Chill out Waz. Really.

[The Broken Russian States]

I don't think this is beyond salvaging, and some players have put a lot of time into this. We shouldn't give up just yet.

But if we do, i'm going to take a hiatus from these RP's for a bit.

I agree.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

To count European Turks ONLY would be the equivalent of counting the Mexican Immigrants in the U.S as part of the Mexican Population of the Sovereign Nation of Mexico.

No, since Turkey controls part of Europe. To include the Asian population of Turkey would be defiling the name of the EU. Should this condition be changed, then Sweden would have to reconsider its vote on Turkey's admittance.

I have to agree on Waz about the RP. I mean, you just let Croatia have a coup d'etat for Christssakes.

It was not a coup, The General took power after the former leader was assassinated, elections will be held soon

[Winovia]

Hows this,
- New IC
- Sochi Massacre = Null & Void
- Internal Nation Changes stay

[The Enclave Government]

Germany, this is ridiculos. Turkey is, ''a member state of the Council of Europe since 1949''. From Wikipedia, therefor the EU memberstates are simply bullying Turkey out of proper representation.

[Waztaskio]

I don't think this is beyond salvaging, and some players have put a lot of time into this. We shouldn't give up just yet.

But if we do, i'm going to take a hiatus from these RP's for a bit.

I agree.

Now is it beyond salvaging, no. Is it going to be a huge pain to do, yes. Now of course, if you really wanted to you could just move your important post from this to the new IC, and keep those changes in. But we could easily rule out the inactive players, as well as the godmodding players easily as we could keep up. I don't honestly see why you can't just copy your stuff from here and move it....

[Altito Asmoro]

Kryskov, do you allow me to buy some of your Saab's fighters?

[Galter Gulcher]

Hows this,
- New IC
- Sochi Massacre = Null & Void
- Internal Nation Changes stay

Hows this,

~ Sochi Massacre = Null & Void
~ Everything stays the same otherwise.

[The Enclave Government]

I say Broken Russian States should be OP for this new IC. He's the most reasonable and least godmoddish person i've seen here. Plus he is mostly neutral.

[The Broken Russian States]

Hows this,
- New IC
- Sochi Massacre = Null & Void
- Internal Nation Changes stay

Germany will leave the RP if it resets that far. I have worked very hard with Italy to help fix up the EU.

[Waztaskio]

Hows this,
- New IC
- Sochi Massacre = Null & Void
- Internal Nation Changes stay

Germany will leave the RP if it resets that far. I have worked very hard with Italy to help fix up the EU.

As said above:

Now is it beyond salvaging, no. Is it going to be a huge pain to do, yes. Now of course, if you really wanted to you could just move your important post from this to the new IC, and keep those changes in. But we could easily rule out the inactive players, as well as the godmodding players easily as we could keep up. I don't honestly see why you can't just copy your stuff from here and move it....

[The Broken Russian States]

I say Broken Russian States should be OP for this new IC. He's the most reasonable and least godmoddish person i've seen here. Plus he is mostly neutral.

I disagree. I may be a co-op, but not the main op.

[Talanzaar]

I agree.

Now is it beyond salvaging, no. Is it going to be a huge pain to do, yes. Now of course, if you really wanted to you could just move your important post from this to the new IC, and keep those changes in. But we could easily rule out the inactive players, as well as the godmodding players easily as we could keep up. I don't honestly see why you can't just copy your stuff from here and move it....

I couldn't agree more

[Waztaskio]

I say Broken Russian States should be OP for this new IC. He's the most reasonable and least godmoddish person i've seen here. Plus he is mostly neutral.

I disagree. I may be a co-op, but not the main op.

How is everyone here basically godmodding from what you say?

[The Broken Russian States]

Germany will leave the RP if it resets that far. I have worked very hard with Italy to help fix up the EU.

As said above:

Now is it beyond salvaging, no. Is it going to be a huge pain to do, yes. Now of course, if you really wanted to you could just move your important post from this to the new IC, and keep those changes in. But we could easily rule out the inactive players, as well as the godmodding players easily as we could keep up. I don't honestly see why you can't just copy your stuff from here and move it....

I post heavily. Although, it would give Germany and Italy a chance to not have to go through the ECO probs with getting ready to invade Russia.

[The Enclave Government]

I think we simply need to start off on a blank January 1st, 2014 and restart this, but jumpstart the timescale so we can do what we need to get established, then turn back the dial for normal RP sequence.