But I am saying, its not like there is a button witch says PRESS TO ARM
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by Galter Gulcher » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:51 pm

by The Enclave Government » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:52 pm
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

by The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:54 pm


by Waztaskio » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:56 pm
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Granted, it is not going to be clear like water. But those individuals are terrorists who specifically trained for months (I am guessing) for this specific "mission". They know what they are doing.

by Galter Gulcher » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:57 pm
Waztaskio wrote:The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Granted, it is not going to be clear like water. But those individuals are terrorists who specifically trained for months (I am guessing) for this specific "mission". They know what they are doing.
And besides, they would certainly have been training for this since Russian has been going in a downward spiral which was months ago.

by The Enclave Government » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:59 pm
Galter Gulcher wrote:Waztaskio wrote:And besides, they would certainly have been training for this since Russian has been going in a downward spiral which was months ago.
Downward spiral? You guys are making it to look like some sort of Depression, I lost 100 Billion at most, half of what was lost in 09'.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

by Galter Gulcher » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:00 pm
The Enclave Government wrote:Galter Gulcher wrote:
Downward spiral? You guys are making it to look like some sort of Depression, I lost 100 Billion at most, half of what was lost in 09'.
Not lost.
Losing.
You probobally have close to 75% less investment then before. Gazprom is silently whimpering to be euthanised.

by The Enclave Government » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:04 pm
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

by Rephesus » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:04 pm

by The Enclave Government » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:06 pm
Rephesus wrote:Galter Gulcher wrote:
Hardly, it lost 3 trade partners, whom are now engulfed in riots due to a lack of gas.
Go back and read the last 200 pages. About 180 of them are multiple players explaining basic economics to you and helping you understand the fact that the Russian economy is crashing. We've had this discussion numerous times. Eastern Europe and Russia are near depression, West Europe and Central Asia are in recession.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

by Hobbesistan » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:10 pm

by The Enclave Government » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:11 pm
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

by Roski » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:12 pm

by The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:15 pm
Rephesus wrote:Galter Gulcher wrote:
Hardly, it lost 3 trade partners, whom are now engulfed in riots due to a lack of gas.
Go back and read the last 200 pages. About 180 of them are multiple players explaining basic economics to you and helping you understand the fact that the Russian economy is crashing. We've had this discussion numerous times. Eastern Europe and Russia are near depression, West Europe and Central Asia are in recession.

by The Enclave Government » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:17 pm
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:Rephesus wrote:
Go back and read the last 200 pages. About 180 of them are multiple players explaining basic economics to you and helping you understand the fact that the Russian economy is crashing. We've had this discussion numerous times. Eastern Europe and Russia are near depression, West Europe and Central Asia are in recession.
At this point, I think we need a ruling from the OP/Co-OP's in which they specifically say "Russia, your economy is in a deep recession". There. No explanations, nothing. If the player argues back, just ignore. Ruling is ruling. The law is the law.
But, of course, for the goal of "keeping the RP active", no ruling will come
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

by Galter Gulcher » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:18 pm
The Enclave Government wrote:Rephesus wrote:
Go back and read the last 200 pages. About 180 of them are multiple players explaining basic economics to you and helping you understand the fact that the Russian economy is crashing. We've had this discussion numerous times. Eastern Europe and Russia are near depression, West Europe and Central Asia are in recession.
Also, NATO CAN FKING ISSUE EMBARGOES. THEY DID IT TO YUGOSLAVIA IN 1999. GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN HEAD.

by The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:19 pm
The Enclave Government wrote:The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
At this point, I think we need a ruling from the OP/Co-OP's in which they specifically say "Russia, your economy is in a deep recession". There. No explanations, nothing. If the player argues back, just ignore. Ruling is ruling. The law is the law.
But, of course, for the goal of "keeping the RP active", no ruling will come
Can i kiss you, you smart person.
Wow, that sarcasm. Sorry for pointing out the obvious 

by The New Greek Republic » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:20 pm
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by Galter Gulcher » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:20 pm
Rephesus wrote:Galter Gulcher wrote:
Hardly, it lost 3 trade partners, whom are now engulfed in riots due to a lack of gas.
Go back and read the last 200 pages. About 180 of them are multiple players explaining basic economics to you and helping you understand the fact that the Russian economy is crashing. We've had this discussion numerous times. Eastern Europe and Russia are near depression, West Europe and Central Asia are in recession.

by Roski » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:22 pm
Galter Gulcher wrote:The Enclave Government wrote:
Also, NATO CAN FKING ISSUE EMBARGOES. THEY DID IT TO YUGOSLAVIA IN 1999. GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN HEAD.
But how could it have passed, the Baltic States wouldnt have supported it, they would loose 100% of there Natural Gas and Oil, realistically Poland wouldnt support it considering how much trade they have with Russia, Slovakia wouldn't support it because they would loose 100% of there Natural Gas and most of there Oil,Bulgaria wouldn't support it because they would loose much of there trade and 97% of there Energy, Hungary wouldnt support it because they joined CIS and have so much trade with Russia including almost 90% of there energy, Czechs wouldnt support it considering how much trade they would loose along with 75% of there energy, why would Turkey support it as they would loose nearly 70% of there energy I don't know. Spain wouldnt support it and as a result neither would Portugal. Netherlands I doubt would support it, they would loose quite a bit of trade, France would also loose out on a expensive deal on one last Mistral class and 25% of there energy.

by Galter Gulcher » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:23 pm
Roski wrote:Galter Gulcher wrote:
But how could it have passed, the Baltic States wouldnt have supported it, they would loose 100% of there Natural Gas and Oil, realistically Poland wouldnt support it considering how much trade they have with Russia, Slovakia wouldn't support it because they would loose 100% of there Natural Gas and most of there Oil,Bulgaria wouldn't support it because they would loose much of there trade and 97% of there Energy, Hungary wouldnt support it because they joined CIS and have so much trade with Russia including almost 90% of there energy, Czechs wouldnt support it considering how much trade they would loose along with 75% of there energy, why would Turkey support it as they would loose nearly 70% of there energy I don't know. Spain wouldnt support it and as a result neither would Portugal. Netherlands I doubt would support it, they would loose quite a bit of trade, France would also loose out on a expensive deal on one last Mistral class and 25% of there energy.
NATO does not require such unanimous vote, or any vote. Poland, Germany, Turkey, and the US are onboard, so it passes.

by The New Lowlands » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:23 pm
Galter Gulcher wrote:Rephesus wrote:
Go back and read the last 200 pages. About 180 of them are multiple players explaining basic economics to you and helping you understand the fact that the Russian economy is crashing. We've had this discussion numerous times. Eastern Europe and Russia are near depression, West Europe and Central Asia are in recession.
I have a fine understanding of economics, and I know Europe wont want to loose one of its biggest trading partners.

by Waztaskio » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:23 pm
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:Rephesus wrote:
Go back and read the last 200 pages. About 180 of them are multiple players explaining basic economics to you and helping you understand the fact that the Russian economy is crashing. We've had this discussion numerous times. Eastern Europe and Russia are near depression, West Europe and Central Asia are in recession.
At this point, I think we need a ruling from the OP/Co-OP's in which they specifically say "Russia, your economy is in a deep recession". There. No explanations, nothing. If the player argues back, just ignore. Ruling is ruling. The law is the law.
But, of course, for the goal of "keeping the RP active", no ruling will come

by Galter Gulcher » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:24 pm
Waztaskio wrote:The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
At this point, I think we need a ruling from the OP/Co-OP's in which they specifically say "Russia, your economy is in a deep recession". There. No explanations, nothing. If the player argues back, just ignore. Ruling is ruling. The law is the law.
But, of course, for the goal of "keeping the RP active", no ruling will come
I gave a ruling on this LONG ago. And the ruling was basically: When it first started, they lost about 52 Billion, and more would be lost later. Onto which GG, put in some new plans, but that still doesn't fix more people cutting of trade with him after, which I thought he would realize he is in depression.

by The Enclave Government » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:25 pm
Galter Gulcher wrote:Waztaskio wrote:I gave a ruling on this LONG ago. And the ruling was basically: When it first started, they lost about 52 Billion, and more would be lost later. Onto which GG, put in some new plans, but that still doesn't fix more people cutting of trade with him after, which I thought he would realize he is in depression.
But I am arguing that its unrealistic that I could be in a depression and they not.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.
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