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The Broken Russian States
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Founded: Nov 23, 2013
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:11 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:Germany, Read EU.

It is supposed to be IC, but at certain times OOC can be excused
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Ptolemais
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Founded: Apr 18, 2012
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Postby Ptolemais » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:11 pm

Limborg wrote:
You can't just prove evidence of such rate to be faked in such matter.. Iran officially commented on his DISSAPERANCE... If it would be fabricated everybody would know since it was an important politician. So again, by saying that he is not dead, the whole line of actions have been nullified. The OP back then had no issues with it as far as we know, and that tells us that the Saudi prince is dead.

I'm not really keeping track of Venezuela at the moment becouse of all the other stuff that is going on, however they are still friendly towards Iran so...


I see what you're saying, and I don't think we should have a rollback.

Perhaps we could compromise and say that Saudi Arabia didn't acknowledge your claim since they didn't want to dignify you with response until it came to this. We'll just say the guy you found happened to be a doppelgänger of the prince. Pure coincidence.
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Winovia
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Founded: Nov 26, 2013
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Postby Winovia » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:14 pm

@Iran Hopefully my recent post will be enough to get you to back the fuck down
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Limborg
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Founded: Nov 20, 2013
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Postby Limborg » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:15 pm

Ptolemais wrote:
Limborg wrote:
You can't just prove evidence of such rate to be faked in such matter.. Iran officially commented on his DISSAPERANCE... If it would be fabricated everybody would know since it was an important politician. So again, by saying that he is not dead, the whole line of actions have been nullified. The OP back then had no issues with it as far as we know, and that tells us that the Saudi prince is dead.

I'm not really keeping track of Venezuela at the moment becouse of all the other stuff that is going on, however they are still friendly towards Iran so...


I see what you're saying, and I don't think we should have a rollback.

Perhaps we could compromise and say that Saudi Arabia didn't acknowledge your claim since they didn't want to dignify you with response until it came to this. We'll just say the guy you found happened to be a doppelgänger of the prince. Pure coincidence.


And the real prince wouldn't be seen for months? not very likely... He is dead, nothing more. Let Waz find a way for the Saudi's to talk around this. The dead happend a long time ago. Nobody objected in any possible way. That means he's dead. And if not, we can just scrap everything that happend after the Sochi attacks.

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The Broken Russian States
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Founded: Nov 23, 2013
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:15 pm

Turkey, please keep campaigning to the IC. Also, to Ireland, in Real Life, the EU counting all of the Population of Turkey, not just the Europe part. And because I don't know the split population, we are going to stick with that.
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:16 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:Turkey, please keep campaigning to the IC. Also, to Ireland, in Real Life, the EU counting all of the Population of Turkey, not just the Europe part. And because I don't know the split population, we are going to stick with that.

It's a proposition.
I'm really tired

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Limborg
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Postby Limborg » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:17 pm

Winovia wrote:@Iran Hopefully my recent post will be enough to get you to back the fuck down


Sorry, but no. This would let everybody of Bahrain walk away unpunished for their crimes. You know that the Bahrainain Royal famely basicly stole 30% of the country right? Iran will demand justice. Nothing more.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:17 pm

If Iran does anything drastic, i'll be forced to invade.http://www.globalfirepower.com/countrie ... +Countries

I'll win.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

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Kryskov
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Founded: Oct 26, 2012
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Postby Kryskov » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:18 pm

@Turkey: In the EU, we're debating whether to count Turkey as a whole or just the current European part of Turkey.

European Turkey has population of 10,620,739

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Limborg
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Postby Limborg » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:18 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:If Iran does anything drastic, i'll be forced to invade.http://www.globalfirepower.com/countrie ... +Countries

I'll win.


And how would that prove you would win?

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The Broken Russian States
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Founded: Nov 23, 2013
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:18 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:Turkey, please keep campaigning to the IC. Also, to Ireland, in Real Life, the EU counting all of the Population of Turkey, not just the Europe part. And because I don't know the split population, we are going to stick with that.

It's a proposition.

Yeah, I know, but since we are going for Turkey, and not European Turkey, then we really can't do that. But we are only counting the population physically in Turkey, not anywhere else
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Talanzaar
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Postby Talanzaar » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:19 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:If Iran does anything drastic, i'll be forced to invade.http://www.globalfirepower.com/countrie ... +Countries

I'll win.


I'd say its equal game
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The Enclave Government
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Founded: Jan 24, 2014
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Postby The Enclave Government » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:19 pm

According to stats, the Turkish military power index trumps Iran. I also have better, western, technology. Read the stats on globalfirepower.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:19 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:If Iran does anything drastic, i'll be forced to invade.http://www.globalfirepower.com/countrie ... +Countries

I'll win.

No. You come to the EU first unless you end up not joining.
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:20 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:It's a proposition.

Yeah, I know, but since we are going for Turkey, and not European Turkey, then we really can't do that. But we are only counting the population physically in Turkey, not anywhere else

Germany wants that. Ireland doesn't. Nor do some others I'm guessing.
I'm really tired

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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:21 pm

Kryskov wrote:@Turkey: In the EU, we're debating whether to count Turkey as a whole or just the current European part of Turkey.

European Turkey has population of 10,620,739

By that number they have 12 votes.
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Hobbesistan
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Postby Hobbesistan » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:21 pm

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:22 pm

I say only count the ones IN THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF TURKEY. Immigrants to other countries arent a part of the population of Turkey.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:22 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:Yeah, I know, but since we are going for Turkey, and not European Turkey, then we really can't do that. But we are only counting the population physically in Turkey, not anywhere else

Germany wants that. Ireland doesn't. Nor do some others I'm guessing.

Well, the Baltics don't want Turkey in General. We will only use the G6 and the active people. Denmark is inactive.

Only active people can vote.
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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:23 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Germany wants that. Ireland doesn't. Nor do some others I'm guessing.

Sweden supports the Europe-only proposal.

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The imperial canadian dutchy
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:23 pm

(This is Jest do not take seriously)
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Waztaskio
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:23 pm

Ptolemais wrote:Oh snap. I think Waz just cornered you in the peace talks Limborg... I think he's implying the Prince you said you found dead was not the actual Saudi prince.

The plot thickens!

The prince he said was on the battle field, just so happens to be the Secretary General of the United Nations security council. Why would he be on the battle field?

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The imperial canadian dutchy
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:24 pm

Kryskov wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Germany wants that. Ireland doesn't. Nor do some others I'm guessing.

Sweden supports the Europe-only proposal.

Croatia agrees
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Limborg
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Postby Limborg » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:24 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:According to stats, the Turkish military power index trumps Iran. I also have better, western, technology. Read the stats on globalfirepower.


You do know that not everything is about a better army right?

Tactics matter, in wich Iran is permenanly better then Turkey when it comes to Iran. Then there is the public support, wich you do not have, not even in your own country.. I agree that it would be a heavy war, but you wouldn't win it.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:25 pm

European Turks arent freaking the population of TURKEY. THE POPULATION OF TURKEY IS THE PEOPLE LIVING IN TURKEY. THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF TURKEY'S POPULATION. The Soveriegn Turkey is the one asking to be in the EU, and their people are all the ones living in the SOVEREIGN NATION OF TURKEY. Immigrants are population of OTHER countries.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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