Traveller's Café 2: Discussion, tea, brainstorming & advice

[Nightkill the Emperor]

How exactly do interest threads work?

Basic outlines, explanations, ideas, a place for brainstorming?

I'm gonna give it a go, I suppose.

Pretty much.

[Alleniana]

But I haven't seen much of an improvement in any of the magic settings I've looked over. If there were some sort of a set of basic Laws of Physics with regards to magic, I wouldn't have as much of a problem, and I'd have even less if the actual laws of physics couldn't be broken (bent, yes, but not broken) by the laws of magic.

Avatar The Last Airbender, The Dark Tower, A Song of Ice and Fire, His Dark Materials, etc, etc.

Most settings have a sort of Magic A is Magic A.

You linked to to TV tropes.
You just stole 10 minutes of my life.
Cruel.

[Agritum]

But I haven't seen much of an improvement in any of the magic settings I've looked over. If there were some sort of a set of basic Laws of Physics with regards to magic, I wouldn't have as much of a problem, and I'd have even less if the actual laws of physics couldn't be broken (bent, yes, but not broken) by the laws of magic.

Avatar The Last Airbender, The Dark Tower, A Song of Ice and Fire, His Dark Materials, etc, etc.

Most settings have a sort of Magic A is Magic A.

....you missed Harry Potter.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Avatar The Last Airbender, The Dark Tower, A Song of Ice and Fire, His Dark Materials, etc, etc.

Most settings have a sort of Magic A is Magic A.

....you missed Harry Potter.

Admittedly, I don't know why that didn't pop into my head.

[Alleniana]

....you missed Harry Potter.

Admittedly, I don't know why that didn't pop into my head.

I'm actually surprised how few Harry Potter RPs there are on P2TM. You'd expect such a popular fandom would spark RPs by the bunch, but it doesn't.

[Agritum]

Admittedly, I don't know why that didn't pop into my head.

I'm actually surprised how few Harry Potter RPs there are on P2TM. You'd expect such a popular fandom would spark RPs by the bunch, but it doesn't.

There used to be a lot, but they were usually copycats of the "Hey let's recreate Hogwarts!" type.

[Alleniana]

I'm actually surprised how few Harry Potter RPs there are on P2TM. You'd expect such a popular fandom would spark RPs by the bunch, but it doesn't.

There used to be a lot, but they were usually copycats of the "Hey let's recreate Hogwarts!" type.

Oh, hmm. Would have been novel at first, but quickly gotten boring. I can see why they are no more.

[Grenartia]

But I haven't seen much of an improvement in any of the magic settings I've looked over. If there were some sort of a set of basic Laws of Physics with regards to magic, I wouldn't have as much of a problem, and I'd have even less if the actual laws of physics couldn't be broken (bent, yes, but not broken) by the laws of magic.

To be perfectly frank, you've been reading shit fantasy, then.

I'm not talking about books I've read. I'm talking about shit I've seen on this site.

But I haven't seen much of an improvement in any of the magic settings I've looked over. If there were some sort of a set of basic Laws of Physics with regards to magic, I wouldn't have as much of a problem, and I'd have even less if the actual laws of physics couldn't be broken (bent, yes, but not broken) by the laws of magic.

Avatar The Last Airbender, The Dark Tower, A Song of Ice and Fire, His Dark Materials, etc, etc.

Most settings have a sort of Magic A is Magic A.

I've not seen/read any of those (though I've seen most of FMA:B) Nor have I seen anything set on here with rules (not saying they don't exist, just that I've yet to see them).

If I ever do a magic setting, I want to mix Magic A is Magic A with Minovsky Physics, or, basically, FMA with more elaboration.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

To be perfectly frank, you've been reading shit fantasy, then.

I'm not talking about books I've read. I'm talking about shit I've seen on this site.

Avatar The Last Airbender, The Dark Tower, A Song of Ice and Fire, His Dark Materials, etc, etc.

Most settings have a sort of Magic A is Magic A.

I've not seen/read any of those (though I've seen most of FMA:B) Nor have I seen anything set on here with rules (not saying they don't exist, just that I've yet to see them).

If I ever do a magic setting, I want to mix Magic A is Magic A with Minovsky Physics, or, basically, FMA with more elaboration.

You haven't seen Elfen High then. It's why I have a powergrid.

[Grenartia]

I'm not talking about books I've read. I'm talking about shit I've seen on this site.



I've not seen/read any of those (though I've seen most of FMA:B) Nor have I seen anything set on here with rules (not saying they don't exist, just that I've yet to see them).

If I ever do a magic setting, I want to mix Magic A is Magic A with Minovsky Physics, or, basically, FMA with more elaboration.

You haven't seen Elfen High then. It's why I have a powergrid.

Indeed, I haven't. Mainly because by the time I wanted to get into it, there was so much shit yall did that I knew I wouldn't have been able to jump into it.

Powergrid?

[The Broken Russian States]

What's with the nations in RPs that are supposed to be around 90% realism, then people who control Spain invade a former French Colony, without support, regardless the fact they have -Infinity money?

[Corrian]

Is it okay to take over an RP if the OP hasn't been active for about a month, but the RP'ers in said RP are still alive and well and want to continue on with the plot?

Of course, this doesn't really work in story-driven RP's, due to the OP likely having all the knowledge of the RP in their head, but the RP I am thinking of is a sandbox RP so it works better there.

[Agritum]

Is it okay to take over an RP if the OP hasn't been active for about a month, but the RP'ers in said RP are still alive and well and want to continue on with the plot?

Of course, this doesn't really work in story-driven RP's, due to the OP likely having all the knowledge of the RP in their head, but the RP I am thinking of is a sandbox RP so it works better there.

Make a separate IC thread and work from there.

[Terintania]

Is it okay to take over an RP if the OP hasn't been active for about a month, but the RP'ers in said RP are still alive and well and want to continue on with the plot?

Of course, this doesn't really work in story-driven RP's, due to the OP likely having all the knowledge of the RP in their head, but the RP I am thinking of is a sandbox RP so it works better there.

Make a separate IC thread and work from there.

He was actually planning on making a new OOC and keeping the IC, so we can keep moving on from where we were in the IC

[Ularn]

Make a separate IC thread and work from there.

He was actually planning on making a new OOC and keeping the IC, so we can keep moving on from where we were in the IC

One significant problem with that is that if you have any problems in the IC the mods are unlikely to recognize your right to request post deletions, player ejections, or anything else of the kind, since you won't be the owner of the thread. Making a new IC thread grants you complete control over the RP and mod support to enforce your decision, provided the new thread is created in good faith (as opposed to the "screw you" spinoff threads sometimes started, often by players ejected from the original) and nothing significant has been copied from the original IC thread without permission because that would be plagiarism

[Grenartia]

He was actually planning on making a new OOC and keeping the IC, so we can keep moving on from where we were in the IC

One significant problem with that is that if you have any problems in the IC the mods are unlikely to recognize your right to request post deletions, player ejections, or anything else of the kind, since you won't be the owner of the thread. Making a new IC thread grants you complete control over the RP and mod support to enforce your decision, provided the new thread is created in good faith (as opposed to the "screw you" spinoff threads sometimes started, often by players ejected from the original) and nothing significant has been copied from the original IC thread without permission because that would be plagiarism

I'm sure the mods would be more understanding in light of extenuating circumstances (which an inactive OP almost certainly qualifies as), though it would probably be best to ask them first. [/notamod]

[Ularn]

One significant problem with that is that if you have any problems in the IC the mods are unlikely to recognize your right to request post deletions, player ejections, or anything else of the kind, since you won't be the owner of the thread. Making a new IC thread grants you complete control over the RP and mod support to enforce your decision, provided the new thread is created in good faith (as opposed to the "screw you" spinoff threads sometimes started, often by players ejected from the original) and nothing significant has been copied from the original IC thread without permission because that would be plagiarism

I'm sure the mods would be more understanding in light of extenuating circumstances (which an inactive OP almost certainly qualifies as), though it would probably be best to ask them first. [/notamod]

I lurk in the Moderation board a fair bit and my experience is that even in the event of an inactive OP, the mods will be reluctant to support remaining RPers, encouraging them to contact the inactive OP and have them submit the request themselves. Only when the OP has actually CTE'd or communication with them is somehow otherwise rendered impossible will the mods generally consider such third party requests.

[Terintania]

I'm sure the mods would be more understanding in light of extenuating circumstances (which an inactive OP almost certainly qualifies as), though it would probably be best to ask them first. [/notamod]

I lurk in the Moderation board a fair bit and my experience is that even in the event of an inactive OP, the mods will be reluctant to support remaining RPers, encouraging them to contact the inactive OP and have them submit the request themselves. Only when the OP has actually CTE'd or communication with them is somehow otherwise rendered impossible will the mods generally consider such third party requests.

The Op's nation no longer exists, so....

[Ularn]

I lurk in the Moderation board a fair bit and my experience is that even in the event of an inactive OP, the mods will be reluctant to support remaining RPers, encouraging them to contact the inactive OP and have them submit the request themselves. Only when the OP has actually CTE'd or communication with them is somehow otherwise rendered impossible will the mods generally consider such third party requests.

The Op's nation no longer exists, so....

Well, in that case you might have more luck but I imagine it would still mean the mods taking at least another day to deliberate over any request you made, and in the absence of an OP they would probably want to see the backing of a significant number of the RP's participants to any such request, which is also likely to cause delays and confusion. I'd still say it's far simpler to just start a new thread and avoid the whole potential lengthy quagmire.

[Terintania]

The Op's nation no longer exists, so....

Well, in that case you might have more luck but I imagine it would still mean the mods taking at least another day to deliberate over any request you made, and in the absence of an OP they would probably want to see the backing of a significant number of the RP's participants to any such request, which is also likely to cause delays and confusion. I'd still say it's far simpler to just start a new thread and avoid the whole potential lengthy quagmire.

The whole point of doing this is so the we can continue what we're doing. We don't want to start over with a new thread and a new plot. If we made a new IC as well as OOC, we would have to deal with the aspects of making an RP based off the exact same thing that the other one was, because otherwise there would be no point, really. We want to continue from where we are.

[Grenartia]

Well, in that case you might have more luck but I imagine it would still mean the mods taking at least another day to deliberate over any request you made, and in the absence of an OP they would probably want to see the backing of a significant number of the RP's participants to any such request, which is also likely to cause delays and confusion. I'd still say it's far simpler to just start a new thread and avoid the whole potential lengthy quagmire.

The whole point of doing this is so the we can continue what we're doing. We don't want to start over with a new thread and a new plot. If we made a new IC as well as OOC, we would have to deal with the aspects of making an RP based off the exact same thing that the other one was, because otherwise there would be no point, really. We want to continue from where we are.

I honestly doubt they'd deny the request, and that they'd take that long.

[Ularn]

The whole point of doing this is so the we can continue what we're doing. We don't want to start over with a new thread and a new plot. If we made a new IC as well as OOC, we would have to deal with the aspects of making an RP based off the exact same thing that the other one was, because otherwise there would be no point, really. We want to continue from where we are.

I honestly doubt they'd deny the request, and that they'd take that long.

The mods spend the majority of their forum-based lives policing General. Problems here or in Diplomacy, unless they involve clear trolling or flaming, usually aren't such a high priority because of the slower pace of the boards compared to General's quick fire "debate" which often gets very ugly, very fast. By comparison, that means our problems often don't get dealt with as rapidly, simply because they usually aren't such critical problems to begin with.

[Terintania]

We'll see how it goes.

[Grenartia]

I honestly doubt they'd deny the request, and that they'd take that long.

The mods spend the majority of their forum-based lives policing General. Problems here or in Diplomacy, unless they involve clear trolling or flaming, usually aren't such a high priority because of the slower pace of the boards compared to General's quick fire "debate" which often gets very ugly, very fast. By comparison, that means our problems often don't get dealt with as rapidly, simply because they usually aren't such critical problems to begin with.

Still. RP problems almost always get solved in a timely manner.

[Ayreonia]

Yup.

Well, in the beginning anyway. Alex I was a nice guy, there's still places named after him around here. His view on Finland was basically "yo, just pay some taxes or whatevs and we're cool. Conscription? Nah, we're Russia, bitch. We got enough men. Just don't rebel or anything."

Anyway, Nordic history is one big clusterfuck of wars, conquests and shifting alliances. It's hard to believe, seeing as how stable and boring this place is nowadays.

History is fascinating.

Russia was sorta the casual empire in the Renaissance; they didn't pull centralization or fight all that much or do any of the crazy shit anyone did, except for muck about in Siberia. But then WWI, Soviets, all went to hell.

Yeah, though it's interesting to find how overall stable the borders have been; since the main 3 of Denmark, Norway and Sweden were established, the main changes were a few people absorbing Norway sometimes, and Finland leaving. Apart from that, it was all small fry; Iceland is big, but then there's Jamtland, Aland, Skane, Gotland, Ingria, Livonia, just mucking about and getting kicked about.

History is fucked up. It's also awesome. It's fascinating how stuff that happened hudreds of years ago still affects your daily life. Finland here, for example, has always been a battleground, a convenient field for Sweden and Russia to kick the living shit out of each other. Our culture still reflects that.

Anyway, I'll stop the threadjack now, as fun as it is.