(Open) OOC 1875 REAL-WORLD RP

[Aldelxane]

Well with my dreams of a Second Iranian Empire (They always called themselves that) crashing and burning into little pieces of charcoal, what else is left that is viable?

The Ottoman Empire itself. Or Ethiopia (which is an Egyptian protectorate, but nevermind that), if not Spain or Italy.

Italy seems a force truly evil in this. According to all of the other players the Ottomans are sinking fast, it could be interesting to try to be the genius Sultan that saves the Empire, but it probably wouldn't work. Spain is a possibility, but seems likely to become just another ordinary every day European Empire with nothing unique about it. I honestly need more information....

[Aldelxane]

(Essentially I'm undecided and I need help making a more educated decision.)

[Baja California y Sonora]

After the defeat of Argentina, I don't think it should be considered a secondary power any longer. It barely holds the status of independent state.

This ^

Also about the op, British Honduras is no longer British.
Second Edit: Guatemala is part of Mexico and Nicaragua and Honduras are Mexican puppets/protectorates.

[Dangelia]

The Ottoman Empire itself. Or Ethiopia (which is an Egyptian protectorate, but nevermind that), if not Spain or Italy.

Italy seems a force truly evil in this. According to all of the other players the Ottomans are sinking fast, it could be interesting to try to be the genius Sultan that saves the Empire, but it probably wouldn't work. Spain is a possibility, but seems likely to become just another ordinary every day European Empire with nothing unique about it. I honestly need more information....

If the ottomans do sink, you can RP as them, and when they do sink, you can switch as another nation.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Probably not going to work then, not exactly what I had in mind. (Assumed I would only be fighting the collapsing Ottomans. To make it viable, I would have to have a coup de'etat and get a better Shah, however Britain would probably destroy the nation while it was still trying to solidify itself.)

Having the Persian obsession blues? I can relate.

After the defeat of Argentina, I don't think it should be considered a secondary power any longer. It barely holds the status of independent state.

Suggestion logged.

I mean, you didn't have to, I was just voicing my opinion

[Aldelxane]

Italy seems a force truly evil in this. According to all of the other players the Ottomans are sinking fast, it could be interesting to try to be the genius Sultan that saves the Empire, but it probably wouldn't work. Spain is a possibility, but seems likely to become just another ordinary every day European Empire with nothing unique about it. I honestly need more information....

If the ottomans do sink, you can RP as them, and when they do sink, you can switch as another nation.

But why would I do that when I know that every other player will do their utmost to make it sink? What's the benefit in a hopeless temporary nation while others get taken?

[Dangelia]

If the ottomans do sink, you can RP as them, and when they do sink, you can switch as another nation.

But why would I do that when I know that every other player will do their utmost to make it sink? What's the benefit in a hopeless temporary nation while others get taken?

Because the Ottoman Empire will be dissolved and numerous other nations will be formed.

Edit: Or you could just continue as Turkey

[Aldelxane]

But why would I do that when I know that every other player will do their utmost to make it sink? What's the benefit in a hopeless temporary nation while others get taken?

Because the Ottoman Empire will be dissolved and numerous other nations will be formed.

Edit: Or you could just continue as Turkey

Wouldn't it be more productive to RP a rebel faction then......
Anyhow, can I have summaries of Spain, Italy, and the Ottoman Empire so far?

[Seljuq Kyiv]

But SERIOUSLY, could someone update the map to include a largely expanded Portugal?

The reason the map did not include Portugal's new possessions was because they were not recognised OOCly. They were illegitimate gains through godmodding and time warping, and they shall remain unrecognised since you have failed to edit in time.

The Ottoman Empire itself. Or Ethiopia (which is an Egyptian protectorate, but nevermind that), if not Spain or Italy.

Italy seems a force truly evil in this. According to all of the other players the Ottomans are sinking fast, it could be interesting to try to be the genius Sultan that saves the Empire, but it probably wouldn't work. Spain is a possibility, but seems likely to become just another ordinary every day European Empire with nothing unique about it. I honestly need more information....

Spain's king is yet to be decided, but has captured Korea and Morocco. The current Regency is on the precipice of deciding upon republicanism or monarchism. Carlists in certain regions.

Because the Ottoman Empire will be dissolved and numerous other nations will be formed.

Edit: Or you could just continue as Turkey

Wouldn't it be more productive to RP a rebel faction then......
Anyhow, can I have summaries of Spain, Italy, and the Ottoman Empire so far?

Italy is bound in the Coalition of Milan with Mexico, Italy, Chile, the Ottoman Empire, and Colombia (not as unrealistic as the YSGAP, however). Has shown interest in Somalia. Has purchased Suez shares for an exorbitant amount and little gain, and still is denied access through Suez. Intent on sailing through Cape of Good Hope to reach its destination. Basically the butt monkey five years ago.

The Ottomans tried intervening in the Netherlands War by sending a fleet to Acheh, but were beaten to it by Austria. Hoping to limit a two war front to just one in the Balkans, made Armenia independent (with horrid results.) After being promised Algeria by Egypt, gave them independence and most of Syria. Algeria in turn was ceded by Egypt to Austria as per an earlier treaty, and Egypt threatened war for Dayr al Zor following Bedouin raids at the border.

[Dangelia]

Because the Ottoman Empire will be dissolved and numerous other nations will be formed.

Edit: Or you could just continue as Turkey

Wouldn't it be more productive to RP a rebel faction then......
Anyhow, can I have summaries of Spain, Italy, and the Ottoman Empire so far?

It's unnecessary to RP a rebel faction.

[Aldelxane]

But SERIOUSLY, could someone update the map to include a largely expanded Portugal?

The reason the map did not include Portugal's new possessions was because they were not recognised OOCly. They were illegitimate gains through godmodding and time warping, and they shall remain unrecognised since you have failed to edit in time.

Italy seems a force truly evil in this. According to all of the other players the Ottomans are sinking fast, it could be interesting to try to be the genius Sultan that saves the Empire, but it probably wouldn't work. Spain is a possibility, but seems likely to become just another ordinary every day European Empire with nothing unique about it. I honestly need more information....

Spain's king is yet to be decided, but has captured Korea and Morocco. The current Regency is on the precipice of deciding upon republicanism or monarchism. Carlists in certain regions.

Wouldn't it be more productive to RP a rebel faction then......
Anyhow, can I have summaries of Spain, Italy, and the Ottoman Empire so far?

Italy is bound in the Coalition of Milan with Mexico, Italy, Chile, the Ottoman Empire, and Colombia (not as unrealistic as the YSGAP, however). Has shown interest in Somalia. Has purchased Suez shares for an exorbitant amount and little gain, and still is denied access through Suez. Intent on sailing through Cape of Good Hope to reach its destination. Basically the butt monkey five years ago.

The Ottomans tried intervening in the Netherlands War by sending a fleet to Acheh, but were beaten to it by Austria. Hoping to limit a two war front to just one in the Balkans, made Armenia independent (with horrid results.) After being promised Algeria by Egypt, gave them independence and most of Syria. Algeria in turn was ceded by Egypt to Austria as per an earlier treaty, and Egypt threatened war for Dayr al Zor following Bedouin raids at the border.

Honestly Spain seems the best way to go....... Italy comes with a lot of unwanted ties, and the Ottomans are practically condemned to death at his point on the cart to the guillotine.

[Baja California y Sonora]

After the defeat of Argentina, I don't think it should be considered a secondary power any longer. It barely holds the status of independent state.

This ^

Also about the op, British Honduras is no longer British.
Second Edit: Guatemala is part of Mexico and Nicaragua and Honduras are Mexican puppets/protectorates.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

This ^

Also about the op, British Honduras is no longer British.
Second Edit: Guatemala is part of Mexico and Nicaragua and Honduras are Mexican puppets/protectorates.

Done.

[Aldelxane]

Lots of stuff seems to be unknown about Spain. Why does it have such a minuscule navy, for example?

Also: I found that South Korea alone had 12 million in 1900 (couldnt find 1875) Spain's Imperial Population need to be increased, and they obviously couldn't have sailed to Asian and taken that much land without a large navy.

[Baja California y Sonora]

Done.

Thanks!

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Lots of stuff seems to be unknown about Spain. Why does it have such a minuscule navy, for example?

Also: I found that South Korea alone had 12 million in 1900 (couldnt find 1875) Spain's Imperial Population need to be increased, and they obviously couldn't have sailed to Asian and taken that much land without a large navy.

The navy, if I understand it correctly, refers to its creme of the creme (ironclads, etc.). They probably have more transports and auxiliary vessels anyhow.

Well, I put up a 'DO NOT USE' sign and people kept using anyway with edits, so I imagine the task falls before you.

[Aldelxane]

Lots of stuff seems to be unknown about Spain. Why does it have such a minuscule navy, for example?

Also: I found that South Korea alone had 12 million in 1900 (couldnt find 1875) Spain's Imperial Population need to be increased, and they obviously couldn't have sailed to Asian and taken that much land without a large navy.

The navy, if I understand it correctly, refers to its creme of the creme (ironclads, etc.). They probably have more transports and auxiliary vessels anyhow.

Well, I put up a 'DO NOT USE' sign and people kept using anyway with edits, so I imagine the task falls before you.

Still, 5 is a little....... Silly...... Anyhow, I will try to figure out some more stuff about Spain, and I'm guessing they are more along the lines of a great power if they did what the did.....

[Seljuq Kyiv]

The navy, if I understand it correctly, refers to its creme of the creme (ironclads, etc.). They probably have more transports and auxiliary vessels anyhow.

Well, I put up a 'DO NOT USE' sign and people kept using anyway with edits, so I imagine the task falls before you.

Still, 5 is a little....... Silly...... Anyhow, I will try to figure out some more stuff about Spain, and I'm guessing they are more along the lines of a great power if they did what the did.....

And it is.

[The Time Alliance]

Was my app accepted?

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Was my app accepted?

Aye it was.

[Aldelxane]

Combined Spanish Colonies Amount to About 23 Million.
Combined Empire Amounts to About 39 Million
Not sure how I'd estimate the amount of ironclads properly
Of course the Imperial Conscription would be raised and I will have to calculate that.
Reserved Spain and all it's territories.

Edit(S) Imperial Conscription: 3,120,000
Standing Army probably needs increasing too

[Zumreed]

Glory to Seljuq, First of His Name, OP of the 1875 RP, Co-Op of the 1870's thread, King of the Egyptians and the Kebabs.

[Oseamar]

Kingdom of South Germany App
Population (Bavaria):22,050,000
Standing Military and Reserves:920,951
Maximum Conscription (Native):1,500,000
Country and Territories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingd ... a_1815.svg
Head of State: His Majesty, King of Bavaria, Ludwig Otto Friedrich Wilhelm, (Ludwig II for short
Head of Government: Unknown
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: M1869 and M1869 "Aptiertes" Werder (Bavaria) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_rifles
Secondary Weapon: Unkown
Standard Artillery: Unknown, (assumed to be the Krupp C64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_%28field_gun%29)
Main Naval Vessels: None
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Bavaria

[The Time Alliance]

Was my app accepted?

Aye it was.

Great. F*ck. Why is it no matter what Role-Play I do...Argentina always becomes Giberrean's b*tch

Shimon, Brissa and james were the originals

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Glory to Seljuq, First of His Name, OP of the 1875 RP, Co-Op of the 1870's thread, King of the Egyptians and the Kebabs.

Primus inter Pares, By the Grace of God Imperator and Autocrat of All Egypt and its Territories, Protectorates, and Dominions, Custodian of the Three OOCs, Defender of Activity, Duke of General Cartography, Hammer of the Inactives, etc. etc.

Kingdom of South Germany App
Population (Bavaria):22,050,000
Standing Military and Reserves:920,951
Maximum Conscription (Native):1,500,000
Country and Territories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingd ... a_1815.svg
Head of State: His Majesty, King of Bavaria, Otto Wilhelm Luitpold Adalbert Waldemar von Wittelsbach, (Otto for short)
Head of Government: Unknown
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: M1869 and M1869 "Aptiertes" Werder (Bavaria) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_rifles
Secondary Weapon: Unkown
Standard Artillery: Unknown, (assumed to be the Krupp C64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_%28field_gun%29)
Main Naval Vessels: None
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Bavaria

The current king is Ludwig II.