(Open) OOC 1875 REAL-WORLD RP

[Kryskov]

Just posted. May post about Djibouti soon.

Thank you.

I wonder what happened to Jamessonia. Wasn't he more or less running the meeting, as the host?

His reliability is something I've come to question myself, though he may just not have anything to post about, which is what I'm assuming,

[Of the Quendi]

His reliability is something I've come to question myself, though he may just not have anything to post about, which is what I'm assuming,

He is hosting a conference at which someone has just asked if we could begin the conference how can he possible have nothing to post?

Well whatever the case it has been a while since Jamessonia has posted anything, I see no reason to wait. The future of the Netherlands (and Belgium) will be decided by the great powers anyway so lets get the conference rolling.

[Great Kleomentia]

Well im certainly not going to declare war until we get a Ottoman player.

[Dangelia]

Well im certainly not going to declare war until we get a Ottoman player.

Kleo, do you know anyone who would like to rp as the Ottomans?

[Elerian]

Well im certainly not going to declare war until we get a Ottoman player.

I might join as them however I would like to know what their current state is? Essentially how boned are the Ottomans if I play them?

[Elerian]

Name of Nation: Ottoman Empire
Population [Empire Total]: 37,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 200,000
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: 2,960,000
Country and Territories: Tis in the main map
Head of State: Sultan Abdülaziz
Head of Government: Grand Vizier Mehmed Emin Aali Pasha
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_infantry_weapons_of_World_War_I#.C2.A0Ottoman_Empire
Secondary Weapon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3
Standard Artillery: Imported from various European Nations
Main Naval Vessels:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_surface_ships_of_the_Ottoman_steam_navy#Armoured_warships

[Of the Quendi]

I might join as them however I would like to know what their current state is? Essentially how boned are the Ottomans if I play them?

The past five years have not been kind to them.

The Ottomans was more or less forced to acknowledge de jure independency of Egypt (it already had de facto independency so that was mainly a loose of prestige) and has seceded the Levant to Egypt. It also (and this happened before I joined the RP so how on earth it came about I do not know) gave Albania independency. Finally it attempted to set up an Armenian buffer state against Russia but that buffer state was instead turned into the setting of a proxy war between the Ottomans and Russia which has now lasted for five years. The ethnic minorities in the Balkans is probably also eager to declare independency.

Of its 1870 population of some thirty million around ten million had probably declared independency or rebelled. Its military is however quite able technologically though its numbers are small. The navy is very large but dated and far from efficient.

I really hope you will take them though.

[Elerian]

I might join as them however I would like to know what their current state is? Essentially how boned are the Ottomans if I play them?

The past five years have not been kind to them.

The Ottomans was more or less forced to acknowledge de jure independency of Egypt (it already had de facto independency so that was mainly a loose of prestige) and has seceded the Levant to Egypt. It also (and this happened before I joined the RP so how on earth it came about I do not know) gave Albania independency. Finally it attempted to set up an Armenian buffer state against Russia but that buffer state was instead turned into the setting of a proxy war between the Ottomans and Russia which has now lasted for five years. The ethnic minorities in the Balkans is probably also eager to declare independency.

Of its 1870 population of some thirty million around ten million had probably declared independency or rebelled. Its military is however quite able technologically though its numbers are small. The navy is very large but dated and far from efficient.

I really hope you will take them though.

Why would I want to be them if they're that boned? I've asked around and everyone just wants to wipe the floor with the ottomans so why would that be fun to play as?

[Dangelia]

The past five years have not been kind to them.

The Ottomans was more or less forced to acknowledge de jure independency of Egypt (it already had de facto independency so that was mainly a loose of prestige) and has seceded the Levant to Egypt. It also (and this happened before I joined the RP so how on earth it came about I do not know) gave Albania independency. Finally it attempted to set up an Armenian buffer state against Russia but that buffer state was instead turned into the setting of a proxy war between the Ottomans and Russia which has now lasted for five years. The ethnic minorities in the Balkans is probably also eager to declare independency.

Of its 1870 population of some thirty million around ten million had probably declared independency or rebelled. Its military is however quite able technologically though its numbers are small. The navy is very large but dated and far from efficient.

I really hope you will take them though.

Why would I want to be them if they're that boned? I've asked around and everyone just wants to wipe the floor with the ottomans so why would that be fun to play as?

I'm gonna quote Kleo here:

...
@Ottomans
Dont be a baby. Theres still a lot you can do. You can hold your ground and reduce the damage you take in case a war strikes out. You could later reform, strengthen yourself and try and take back some of your land.

[Of the Quendi]

Why would I want to be them if they're that boned? I've asked around and everyone just wants to wipe the floor with the ottomans so why would that be fun to play as?

First of all they are not boned. They have the largest army in the Middle East and the third or fourth largest navy in the world and their army is technologically superior to the Russian forces. Yes the situation is dire and yes victory seems unlikely, but nothing is ever certain.

Secondly there can be greatness in defeat. This is NS, there are few marks of nobility as revered as a RP'er that can RP loosing. As a great man (no not really) once said “Anyone can deal with victory. Only the mighty can bear defeat.” Winning or loosing as long as the RP is exciting what does it really matter. Easy for me to say perhaps and this RP isn't story wise anything special so yes I suppose winning is a success criteria. Still the possibility to RP the collapse of a ancient multinational empire based on the traditions from Rome-Byzantium and the Islamic Caliphates can hardly be considered disinteresting.

Finally if nothing else I have said is confining enough … Could you just RP the Ottomans temporarily until the war is done? Yes you would be a more powerful actor in the RP if you where Prussia or France but not more relevant to it. As far as I can tell the action is for the foreseeable future going to focus on the Eastern Question making the Ottomans the indispensable nation. Then post war you can switch to one of the aforementioned countries if you'd like. I am sure no one would mind if you where permitted to make a reservation for one of them while RP'ing the Ottomans.

[Dangelia]

Why would I want to be them if they're that boned? I've asked around and everyone just wants to wipe the floor with the ottomans so why would that be fun to play as?

First of all they are not boned. They have the largest army in the Middle East and the third or fourth largest navy in the world and their army is technologically superior to the Russian forces. Yes the situation is dire and yes victory seems unlikely, but nothing is ever certain.

Secondly there can be greatness in defeat. This is NS, there are few marks of nobility as revered as a RP'er that can RP loosing. As a great man (no not really) once said “Anyone can deal with victory. Only the mighty can bear defeat.” Winning or loosing as long as the RP is exciting what does it really matter. Easy for me to say perhaps and this RP isn't story wise anything special so yes I suppose winning is a success criteria. Still the possibility to RP the collapse of a ancient multinational empire based on the traditions from Rome-Byzantium and the Islamic Caliphates can hardly be considered disinteresting.

Finally if nothing else I have said is confining enough … Could you just RP the Ottomans temporarily until the war is done? Yes you would be a more powerful actor in the RP if you where Prussia or France but not more relevant to it. As far as I can tell the action is for the foreseeable future going to focus on the Eastern Question making the Ottomans the indispensable nation. Then post war you can switch to one of the aforementioned countries if you'd like. I am sure no one would mind if you where permitted to make a reservation for one of them while RP'ing the Ottomans.

The idea is that after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, we're gonna leave a small nation called Turkey that's just a little smaller than Modern-day turkey. So there essentially will be a successor state which you can RP.

[Mifan]

Can I have Italy?

[Of the Quendi]

Can I have Italy?

You are very welcome to make an app.

[Elerian]

Why would I want to be them if they're that boned? I've asked around and everyone just wants to wipe the floor with the ottomans so why would that be fun to play as?

First of all they are not boned. They have the largest army in the Middle East and the third or fourth largest navy in the world and their army is technologically superior to the Russian forces. Yes the situation is dire and yes victory seems unlikely, but nothing is ever certain.

Secondly there can be greatness in defeat. This is NS, there are few marks of nobility as revered as a RP'er that can RP loosing. As a great man (no not really) once said “Anyone can deal with victory. Only the mighty can bear defeat.” Winning or loosing as long as the RP is exciting what does it really matter. Easy for me to say perhaps and this RP isn't story wise anything special so yes I suppose winning is a success criteria. Still the possibility to RP the collapse of a ancient multinational empire based on the traditions from Rome-Byzantium and the Islamic Caliphates can hardly be considered disinteresting.

Finally if nothing else I have said is confining enough … Could you just RP the Ottomans temporarily until the war is done? Yes you would be a more powerful actor in the RP if you where Prussia or France but not more relevant to it. As far as I can tell the action is for the foreseeable future going to focus on the Eastern Question making the Ottomans the indispensable nation. Then post war you can switch to one of the aforementioned countries if you'd like. I am sure no one would mind if you where permitted to make a reservation for one of them while RP'ing the Ottomans.

I already submitted an app so I will be them, I'm just questioning coming into this and getting destroyed which probably wouldn't be fun. Yes it will be hard and I understand that but if everyone is coming after me and all they want is to win then there is no middle ground.

I'll give anyone who tries to fight me hell (if I get accepted of course) but its no fun to rp a ship that is already almost sunk. So all in all I'll try because I already garnered some support but we will see how it goes.

Wish me luck!

[Lesser Tartary]

Who really would we need to be active in order to finish off the Amsterdam conference? I know that Of the Quendi and Kryskov are here with me, but I haven't seen any of the other participants around lately.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Will get post up tomorrow.

Do you need me to play an NPC, Tarts?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Do we have an Austria yet?

[Lesser Tartary]

Do you need me to play an NPC, Tarts?

Me? Well I'm not sure. In the past ten days or so the only people active in the Amsterdam conference have been me (Belgium), Of the Quendi (Russia), and Kryskov (UK, I think). Jamessonia, the host, has been gone for a while and I also don't know what has happened to the Austria player (if we have one). Since this conference is about Belgium and Holland getting independence from Austria, I am wondering whether we can complete it with only the three of us currently active.

[Dangelia]

Do you need me to play an NPC, Tarts?

Me? Well I'm not sure. In the past ten days or so the only people active in the Amsterdam conference have been me (Belgium), Of the Quendi (Russia), and Kryskov (UK, I think). Jamessonia, the host, has been gone for a while and I also don't know what has happened to the Austria player (if we have one). Since this conference is about Belgium and Holland getting independence from Austria, I am wondering whether we can complete it with only the three of us currently active.

Perhaps, if Seljuq allows, I can also RP as Austria for the purposes of this conference.

[Of the Quendi]

Do we have an Austria yet?

Garwall says he/she is still active.

Jamessonia, the host, has been gone for a while and I also don't know what has happened to the Austria player (if we have one).

Garwall was active just two days ago.

[Lesser Tartary]

Perhaps, if Seljuq allows, I can also RP as Austria for the purposes of this conference.

That would be helpful.

Garwall was active just two days ago.

Oh. Well my point was that we still have not heard much from Austria in the conference, and they are a pretty important participant.

[Elerian]

Am I accepted?

[Dangelia]

Am I accepted?

I'd TG Seljuq to find out. I don't think he's accepted you yet as he's been busy this past week.

[Phoenix2012]

For anyone interested, I made a shipwreck/survival rp
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283540

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Name of Nation: Ottoman Empire
Population [Empire Total]: 37,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 200,000
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: 2,960,000
Country and Territories: Tis in the main map
Head of State: Sultan Abdülaziz
Head of Government: Grand Vizier Mehmed Emin Aali Pasha
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_infantry_weapons_of_World_War_I#.C2.A0Ottoman_Empire
Secondary Weapon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3
Standard Artillery: Imported from various European Nations
Main Naval Vessels:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_surface_ships_of_the_Ottoman_steam_navy#Armoured_warships

Your Vizier is Hussein Avni Pasha. Otherwise, no discrepancies detected.