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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:24 pm

1958, New Berlin, The German Reich
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The sun rises over the great dome of the World Capital Germania; the crowning achievement of the decade-long project to completely rebuild the German capital in the wake of her astonishing success in the Second-Franco Prussia War and the Great Crusade against Communism. It is a city full of good, pure people and solid allies, of flowing commerce and grand buildings of all assortments. Oh, there were moments when it appeared as though the destiny of the German people, dreamed up by the might Fuhrer and ordained in their very blood and history; when their brothers on the British Isles had almost been dragged into a pointless and threatening war by their ill-sought alliance with Poland, egged on by that radical firebrand Churchill. Thankfully, however, cooler head had prevailed in London, as the right honorable Lord Halifax was appointed to the Prime Ministership and guided the Empire into an honorable and gentlemanly peace after a paltry 4 weeks of de-juro war. It also could have ended when their allies in Japan, high on victory and arrogance, had almost drawn the endless industry and manpower of the American into the conflict, for a set of islands with no real importance; thankfully, however, German assurances that they would support no intrusion upon the Anglo-Saxon possessions in the Pacific had lead Tojo to strike down the plan, in favor of the much more valuable territory in China. And, without the guidance and support of those two great powers, and the military genius of Germany and her allies, the Soviet Union was revealed as nothing more then a rotting structure; her army starved and flattened as German, Nordic, Italian, Hungarian, and Turkish troops stormed her borders, her industry bottle-necking from a lack of raw materials and her soldiers literally starving on the battle lines. So great was the sweep that the Slavic hordes had been knocked back behind the Urals where they belonged, their Steel-man Stalin forced to prostrate himself for peace. The grand dream of a Pax Germania, of living space for good Aryans for centuries to come, had been achieved, and Germany stood above the world, rich and triumphant.

And yet... as they say, once all your dreams come true, the problems begin. Despite political and military control over great swaths of the east, it turns out that keeping control over a massive population of hostile people was not as easy as once hoped; the Russians resisting German occupation efforts at every turn, without enough good Germans to populate the expanses even if the Fatherland itself was emptied. They are assisted by the frozen expanse across the Urals; the great military camp known as The Soviet Union, who have not forgotten the crimes Germany has been committing against them for the last half century and burning with the fires of Revanchism, standing shoulder to shoulder with their similarly positioned brothers in Communist China; a nation also defeated, but not destroyed, by Japanese aggression. The British Empire, wanning after the lose of India but still a mighty force, still resits German influence, with recent governments even trying to push it back in some places. And, across the sea, sits the looming giant of America; looming large after a Great Third New Deal that skyrocketed the national economy through projects almost as grandiose as those of Germany, jealously guarding her side of the globe from any competitors. Though their is still technically peace, the different powers each seek to expand and influence at the cost of the others... the great ideological differences making eventually war seem inevitable, but not impossible.

Only time will tell how long this state will last, and weather or not there will truly be a 1000 year Reich
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Da Rules

1. No Godmodding: Self-explanatory. Be it the spirits of Japanese Shinto, the Nordic forces of German Paganism, or good old fashioned Christian miracles, if there are any gods they don't do anything. Only mortal hands with normal mortal restrictions apply.

2. Remember your limitations Siam isen't going to be building its own nuclear weapons at any point, and even America can't rebuild a sunken aircraft carrier overnight. This goes for cultural changes too; Germany isn't going to be "Let's hug all the jew/gypsies/homosexuals/ect. just because you say so.

3. Logistics!: Wars aren't won by having the most and best tanks, ships, and planes; they're won by being able to use the most and best tanks, ships, and planes. As such, military campaigns require planning and reason to work out. You'll need your troops to hold ground, but marching them anywhere can take weeks, and mechanizing all your troops is cost-prohibitive, especially without endlessly flowing oil. You get the soldiers you send, and if you want more you have to take them from somewhere else. There is also political logistics; German "advisors" trying to stage a pro-Facist coupe in a nation are going to be less politically damming then an all-out invasion to instill an obvious puppet. The bigger the invasion, the more time it takes to prepare.

4. No Custom Nations: I'm going to be really picky here, because some of you might want to say "Hey, let's take all of South America and turn it into a giant Brazilian Empire that's on par with the other great powers". The answer is no. If its not already custom-fit, your nation has the same borders it had IRL, no exceptions.

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Members of the Axis
The German Reich(Dark Grey)
-Brittany (Puppet)
-Normandy (Puppet)
The Italian Socialist Kingdom (Green)
The Spanish Nation (Yellow)
The 1st French National Socialist Republic (Grey-Blue)
Hungary (Red)
Serbia (Orange)
Romania (Brown)
Bulgaria (Lime Green)
The Ottoman Empire (Maroon)
Sweden (Light Blue)
Finland (Dark Blue-Green)
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(Japanese Branch)
The Japanese Empire (Red-Brown)
Siam (Orange)
Burma (Puke Green)

Members of the Commonwealth
Great Britain (Pink)
-Dominions (By request, once other positions are filled)
Arabia (Purple)
Portugal (Neon Green)
India (Magenta)
Pakistan (Pine Green)

Members of the Comintern
The U.S.S.R (Neon Red)
The P.R.C (Caramel)


NS Nation Name:
RP Nation:
Form of Government:
Economic System:
Head of State:
Capital City:
Alliance (If Any):
Population:
Currency:

Military Capacity:
Army: (Number of standing men; 3% Maximum in peacetime)
Reserves: (Number of young men who can take up arms in times of need, 7% at max)
Navy: Number of vessels and types
Air Force:
Nuclear Capacity: (Germany, UK, and USA only)

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NS Nation Name: Kratu
RP Nation: The German Reich
Form of Government: Authoritarian National Socialist Dictatorship
Economic System: An officially Authoritarian Capitalist system with companies allowed in the Country but under the ever watching eye of Hitler and his cronies. (I cannot find a good description of what their Economic System was so help may be needed.)
Head of State: Adolf Hitler
Capital City: New Berlin, Germania, or Berlin whatever you want to call it.
Alliance (If Any): In the Axis Powers
Population: 129 million people
Currency: The Reichsmark

Military Capacity: The German Reich has a Nuclear Capable Military and is one of the most advance countries in the world only reviled by the United States and Great Britain.
Army: 3,225,000
Reserves: (Number of young men who can take up arms in times of need, 7% at max)
Navy: Plan Z was the name given to the planned re-equipment and expansion of the German Navy (Kriegsmarine) ordered by Adolf Hitler on January 27, 1939.[1] The plan called for a Kriegsmarine of
10 battleships
4 aircraft carriers
3 battlecruisers
3 old panzerschiffe
12 new panzerschiffe
5 heavy cruisers
36 M-class light cruisers
24 Spähkreuzer-type light cruisers
68 destroyers
90 torpedo boats
249 U-boats

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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:37 pm

Kratu wrote:NS Nation Name: Kratu
RP Nation: The German Reich
Form of Government: Authoritarian National Socialist Dictatorship
Economic System: An officially Authoritarian Capitalist system with companies allowed in the Country but under the ever watching eye of Hitler and his cronies. (I cannot find a good description of what their Economic System was so help may be needed.)
Head of State: Adolf Hitler
Capital City: New Berlin, Germania, or Berlin whatever you want to call it.
Alliance (If Any): In the Axis Powers
Population: 129 million people
Currency: The Reichsmark

Military Capacity: The German Reich has a Nuclear Capable Military and is one of the most advance countries in the world only reviled by the United States and Great Britain.
Army: 3,225,000
Reserves: (Number of young men who can take up arms in times of need, 7% at max)
Navy: Plan Z was the name given to the planned re-equipment and expansion of the German Navy (Kriegsmarine) ordered by Adolf Hitler on January 27, 1939.[1] The plan called for a Kriegsmarine of
10 battleships
4 aircraft carriers
3 battlecruisers
3 old panzerschiffe
12 new panzerschiffe
5 heavy cruisers
36 M-class light cruisers
24 Spähkreuzer-type light cruisers
68 destroyers
90 torpedo boats
249 U-boats

RP Example: In your other RP


Accepted. Hail Germania.

Also, nuclear rules: Only Germany, the US, and the UK are nuclear powers. They can loan nukes to their allies, but developing a nuclear program can take quite a bit of time and effort.
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Postby Kratu » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:40 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Kratu wrote:NS Nation Name: Kratu
RP Nation: The German Reich
Form of Government: Authoritarian National Socialist Dictatorship
Economic System: An officially Authoritarian Capitalist system with companies allowed in the Country but under the ever watching eye of Hitler and his cronies. (I cannot find a good description of what their Economic System was so help may be needed.)
Head of State: Adolf Hitler
Capital City: New Berlin, Germania, or Berlin whatever you want to call it.
Alliance (If Any): In the Axis Powers
Population: 129 million people
Currency: The Reichsmark

Military Capacity: The German Reich has a Nuclear Capable Military and is one of the most advance countries in the world only reviled by the United States and Great Britain.
Army: 3,225,000
Reserves: (Number of young men who can take up arms in times of need, 7% at max)
Navy: Plan Z was the name given to the planned re-equipment and expansion of the German Navy (Kriegsmarine) ordered by Adolf Hitler on January 27, 1939.[1] The plan called for a Kriegsmarine of
10 battleships
4 aircraft carriers
3 battlecruisers
3 old panzerschiffe
12 new panzerschiffe
5 heavy cruisers
36 M-class light cruisers
24 Spähkreuzer-type light cruisers
68 destroyers
90 torpedo boats
249 U-boats

RP Example: In your other RP


Accepted. Hail Germania.

Also, nuclear rules: Only Germany, the US, and the UK are nuclear powers. They can loan nukes to their allies, but developing a nuclear program can take quite a bit of time and effort.


Okay similar to the Nuclear sharing programs the US does with Germany, Italy, Belgium, etc?
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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:42 pm

Kratu wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Accepted. Hail Germania.

Also, nuclear rules: Only Germany, the US, and the UK are nuclear powers. They can loan nukes to their allies, but developing a nuclear program can take quite a bit of time and effort.


Okay similar to the Nuclear sharing programs the US does with Germany, Italy, Belgium, etc?


Yes.

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Postby Kratu » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:43 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Kratu wrote:
Okay similar to the Nuclear sharing programs the US does with Germany, Italy, Belgium, etc?


Yes.


Also I could ask people on my RP's if they are interested.
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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:46 pm

Kratu wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Yes.


Also I could ask people on my RP's if they are interested.


If you wish. The more the merrier.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:49 pm

Good heaven its reverse irredentism in Greece!
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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:50 pm

Benuty wrote:Good heaven its reverse irredentism in Greece!


Well, they were the only Allied nations in the East. They weren't getting off easy with Turkey wanting Greater Turkey and Italy wanting the Adriatic and Mediterranean. Best no to give them any chances.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:52 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Benuty wrote:Good heaven its reverse irredentism in Greece!


Well, they were the only Allied nations in the East. They weren't getting off easy with Turkey wanting Greater Turkey and Italy wanting the Adriatic and Mediterranean. Best no to give them any chances.

I do not exactly understand how Normandy is able to maintain colonies in former French Africa. I mean they are limited in financial resources (realistically).
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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:54 pm

Benuty wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Well, they were the only Allied nations in the East. They weren't getting off easy with Turkey wanting Greater Turkey and Italy wanting the Adriatic and Mediterranean. Best no to give them any chances.

I do not exactly understand how Normandy is able to maintain colonies in former French Africa. I mean they are limited in financial resources (realistically).


Well, Normandy and Brittany are basically just names slapped on what are essentially German provinces with puppet governments, to help keep Vichy slightly weaker and protect against possible aggression across the Channel. They are funded and run by Germany in all but name and flag.
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Postby Kolmya » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:05 pm

NS Nation Name: Kolmya
RP Nation: Finland
Form of Government: Parliamentary Republic
Economic System: Capitalist
Head of State: Carl Gustav Emil Mannerheim
Capital City: Helsinki
Alliance (If Any): Axis
Population: 4,446,222
Currency: markkaa

Military Capacity: 800,000
Army: (Number of standing men; 3% Maximum in peacetime) 53,000
Reserves: (Number of young men who can take up arms in times of need, 7% at max) 300,000
Navy: Two coastal defence ships, (Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen)
Air force: 150 aircraft
Five submarines (Vesihiisi, Iku-Turso, Vetehinen, Vesikko and Saukko)
Four sloops (Turunmaa, Karjala, Uusimaa and Hämeenmaa)
Three minelayers
12 minesweepers
Seven motor torpedo boats
The Finnish Navy used several other vessels (for example, Coast Guard vessels) during the wars:
Four sloops — used mainly as escorts and minesweepers
Six cutters — smaller vessels used as escorts and minesweepers
17 VMV class patrol boats — used as small torpedo boats, gun boats, sub hunters and in other roles.

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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:09 pm

Kolmya wrote:NS Nation Name: Kolmya
RP Nation: Finland
Form of Government: Parliamentary Republic
Economic System: Capitalist
Head of State: Carl Gustav Emil Mannerheim
Capital City: Helsinki
Alliance (If Any): Axis
Population: 4,446,222
Currency: markkaa

Military Capacity: 800,000
Army: (Number of standing men; 3% Maximum in peacetime) 530,000
Reserves: (Number of young men who can take up arms in times of need, 7% at max) 300,000
Navy: Two coastal defence ships, (Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen)
Five submarines (Vesihiisi, Iku-Turso, Vetehinen, Vesikko and Saukko)
Four sloops (Turunmaa, Karjala, Uusimaa and Hämeenmaa)
Three minelayers
12 minesweepers
Seven motor torpedo boats
The Finnish Navy used several other vessels (for example, Coast Guard vessels) during the wars:
Four sloops — used mainly as escorts and minesweepers
Six cutters — smaller vessels used as escorts and minesweepers
17 VMV class patrol boats — used as small torpedo boats, gun boats, sub hunters and in other roles.

RP Example: A Whistling Mason


Accepted, provided you take that extra 0 off your military number.

Also, just realized I forgot to put in an Air Force section on the OP. Please edit that in to your apps.
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Postby Saragrossa » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:21 pm

Can I tweak a nation?

Could I RP as China under Chiang Kai Sek? like Kuomingtang Army?
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Saragrossa wrote:Can I tweak a nation?

Could I RP as China under Chiang Kai Sek? like Kuomingtang Army?


Rule 4. If I allow you to do that, then the Soviets will be left out in the cold with no viable allies.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:24 pm

Reserving USSR. (Or what's left of it.) And a few questions;
1) Is Stalin alive and in charge of the USSR?
2) What happened to Zhukov/Konev?
3) Is Tito around, and can I assume control of the Yugoslav Resistance alongside that inside West Russia?

Also, I don't mind being on my own.
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Postby Saragrossa » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:30 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Saragrossa wrote:Can I tweak a nation?

Could I RP as China under Chiang Kai Sek? like Kuomingtang Army?


Rule 4. If I allow you to do that, then the Soviets will be left out in the cold with no viable allies.



Well no, Chiang Kai Sek didn't have an issue with Soviets and was cool with Stalin who funded him to fight Japan.

He hated Mao and purged communists because of the obvious issues they posed to him but he wasn't against the idea of communist, just against mao who was undermining him in a civil war.
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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:32 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:Reserving USSR. (Or what's left of it.) And a few questions;
1) Is Stalin alive and in charge of the USSR?
2) What happened to Zhukov/Konev?
3) Is Tito around, and can I assume control of the Yugoslav Resistance alongside that inside West Russia?

Also, I don't mind being on my own.


1. Yes, Stalin is still alive. He's getting a bit long in the tooth, but thirst for vengeance drives him to victory.
3. Zhukov is still alive, and one of the Soviet's finest generals for his brave attempts to scorch down the Germans and his orderly rescue of the Soviet Army. Konev fought to the death from the heart of the Kremlin to defend Moscow until the Germans blew up the building.
3. Yes, he's still around, but the Serbians (Yugoslavian name was forced to be abandoned to stop the Serbs from getting any bright ideas) are fairly weak, all told, and their resistance is even weaker. You may, however, as head of the Comintern, you can control various minor communist resistance groups, Tito's included.

And Saragosssa; I'll allow a compromise government, with the Communist and the Nationalist going on and leading to Mao and Chiang jointly leading the country, but it should look fairly Communist, since the Commies were stronger in the East and its not like the Republic's army did much good against the Japanese last time around.

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Postby Kratu » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:34 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:Reserving USSR. (Or what's left of it.) And a few questions;
1) Is Stalin alive and in charge of the USSR?
2) What happened to Zhukov/Konev?
3) Is Tito around, and can I assume control of the Yugoslav Resistance alongside that inside West Russia?

Also, I don't mind being on my own.


I will nuke you into Oblivion! :p What would the Soviets pop be anyway?
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Postby Kolmya » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:36 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Kolmya wrote:NS Nation Name: Kolmya
RP Nation: Finland
Form of Government: Parliamentary Republic
Economic System: Capitalist
Head of State: Carl Gustav Emil Mannerheim
Capital City: Helsinki
Alliance (If Any): Axis
Population: 4,446,222
Currency: markkaa

Military Capacity: 800,000
Army: (Number of standing men; 3% Maximum in peacetime) 530,000
Reserves: (Number of young men who can take up arms in times of need, 7% at max) 300,000
Navy: Two coastal defence ships, (Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen)
Five submarines (Vesihiisi, Iku-Turso, Vetehinen, Vesikko and Saukko)

Four sloops (Turunmaa, Karjala, Uusimaa and Hämeenmaa)
Three minelayers
12 minesweepers
Seven motor torpedo boats
The Finnish Navy used several other vessels (for example, Coast Guard vessels) during the wars:
Four sloops — used mainly as escorts and minesweepers
Six cutters — smaller vessels used as escorts and minesweepers
17 VMV class patrol boats — used as small torpedo boats, gun boats, sub hunters and in other roles.

RP Example: A Whistling Mason


Accepted, provided you take that extra 0 off your military number.

Also, just realized I forgot to put in an Air Force section on the OP. Please edit that in to your apps.


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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:37 pm

Kratu wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:Reserving USSR. (Or what's left of it.) And a few questions;
1) Is Stalin alive and in charge of the USSR?
2) What happened to Zhukov/Konev?
3) Is Tito around, and can I assume control of the Yugoslav Resistance alongside that inside West Russia?

Also, I don't mind being on my own.


I will nuke you into Oblivion! :p What would the Soviets pop be anyway?


Since many Russians would GTF out dodge with the Soviet army to Siberia, I'd give you 100 million or so; under Germany but not impossibly so.

Also, the U.S.S.R dosen't have nukes. Only Germany, The UK, and The USA have nukes right now. However, the Soviets I will allow to have nuclear weapons program, so you'll have your first nukes not too far into the future.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:38 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Kratu wrote:
I will nuke you into Oblivion! :p What would the Soviets pop be anyway?


Since many Russians would GTF out dodge with the Soviet army to Siberia, I'd give you 100 million or so; under Germany but not impossibly so.

Also, the U.S.S.R dosen't have nukes. Only Germany, The UK, and The USA have nukes right now. However, the Soviets I will allow to have nuclear weapons program, so you'll have your first nukes not too far into the future.


What's the state of the Red Navy/Air Force?
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Postby Kratu » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:39 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Kratu wrote:
I will nuke you into Oblivion! :p What would the Soviets pop be anyway?


Since many Russians would GTF out dodge with the Soviet army to Siberia, I'd give you 100 million or so; under Germany but not impossibly so.

Also, the U.S.S.R dosen't have nukes. Only Germany, The UK, and The USA have nukes right now. However, the Soviets I will allow to have nuclear weapons program, so you'll have your first nukes not too far into the future.


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Postby Granadeseret » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:43 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Granadeseret wrote:
Since many Russians would GTF out dodge with the Soviet army to Siberia, I'd give you 100 million or so; under Germany but not impossibly so.

Also, the U.S.S.R dosen't have nukes. Only Germany, The UK, and The USA have nukes right now. However, the Soviets I will allow to have nuclear weapons program, so you'll have your first nukes not too far into the future.


What's the state of the Red Navy/Air Force?


The Red Navy mostly got scuttled or captured when it tried to run from Sevastopol and Leningrad, though the Pacific fleet is alright. It has received fairly little attention, with most effort going to the Army (You can change this, though I don't see why you would; considering a navy will do you a fat lot of good against the German land empire). The Red Air Force has been rebuilt from the debacle of Operation Barbarossa, and while it can't match the Luftwaffe in skill (pretty much fresh pilots) it can in numbers of quality of aircraft.
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Postby Kratu » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:44 pm

Granadeseret wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
What's the state of the Red Navy/Air Force?


The Red Navy mostly got scuttled or captured when it tried to run from Sevastopol and Leningrad, though the Pacific fleet is alright. It has received fairly little attention, with most effort going to the Army (You can change this, though I don't see why you would; considering a navy will do you a fat lot of good against the German land empire). The Red Air Force has been rebuilt from the debacle of Operation Barbarossa, and while it can't match the Luftwaffe in skill (pretty much fresh pilots) it can in numbers of quality of aircraft.


What types of planes would Germany use and also 1958 Germany to the Moon!
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