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Postby Charmera » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:23 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Niko went through Order occupied America to gain allies on his return to Russia to start it.


I see you also want to bring Russia into light.

The countries we have so far are:

The UAR

Canada

Ingaland(England & Wales)

Franco-Germany

GNRH (neo-Fascist)

Japan (mini-Order)

Korea has been alluded to by a few characters, I would like to explore the region one day (and hope its not like Japan, because then there's no fun)

The character herself (based on powers and drawbacks) is accepted.

Though Russia...that will have to be reviewed, as some may want the nation to be divided into several countries of its own...

Indeed...We should probably finish off all the countries once were done with this book.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:27 pm

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
I see you also want to bring Russia into light.

The countries we have so far are:

The UAR

Canada

Ingaland(England & Wales)

Franco-Germany

GNRH (neo-Fascist)

Japan (mini-Order)

Korea has been alluded to by a few characters, I would like to explore the region one day (and hope its not like Japan, because then there's no fun)

The character herself (based on powers and drawbacks) is accepted.

Though Russia...that will have to be reviewed, as some may want the nation to be divided into several countries of its own...

Indeed...We should probably finish off all the countries once were done with this book.


That would make an interesting task.

Maybe one day we could have a spin-off set in Korea...that would be nice.

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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:28 pm

Okay thanks.

We dwelled a bit on Russia when I was apping Niko in the spin off and Harb and I suggested it would pretty much the same land mass of Russia, though I guess you can discuss it in more detail with other countries. Maybe Siberia would be a separate nation. I dunno.
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Postby Charmera » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:32 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Charmera wrote:Indeed...We should probably finish off all the countries once were done with this book.


That would make an interesting task.

Maybe one day we could have a spin-off set in Korea...that would be nice.

After KGA, OM&T 3 Im probably going to go ahead with my bluefield idea. It would be an opportunity for old characters and new characters to be in the same setting, yet be somewhat disconnected from the main series.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:33 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Okay thanks.

We dwelled a bit on Russia when I was apping Niko in the spin off and Harb and I suggested it would pretty much the same land mass of Russia, though I guess you can discuss it in more detail with other countries. Maybe Siberia would be a separate nation. I dunno.


In the Vanishing Siberia was independent from the rest of Russia.

It was non-canon, but its probably the same in the mainstream universe as well.

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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:41 pm

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
I see you also want to bring Russia into light.

The countries we have so far are:

The UAR

Canada

Ingaland(England & Wales)

Franco-Germany

GNRH (neo-Fascist)

Japan (mini-Order)

Korea has been alluded to by a few characters, I would like to explore the region one day (and hope its not like Japan, because then there's no fun)

The character herself (based on powers and drawbacks) is accepted.

Though Russia...that will have to be reviewed, as some may want the nation to be divided into several countries of its own...

Indeed...We should probably finish off all the countries once were done with this book.

I agree.
Global War on Crime
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Operation: VENGEFUL SPIRIT
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Order of the Purple Cross
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Al-Khalifiya Campaign
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Arabic Spain Remembrance
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Aravean Liberation
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Magian Defense
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Postby Charmera » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:43 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Okay thanks.

We dwelled a bit on Russia when I was apping Niko in the spin off and Harb and I suggested it would pretty much the same land mass of Russia, though I guess you can discuss it in more detail with other countries. Maybe Siberia would be a separate nation. I dunno.

Earlier we discused reducing the country sizes (Large countries would be less common after the Order) by creating several states.

Speaking of which, should China be one unified country? Its seems little too large for a post Order world...
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:45 pm

Charmera wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Okay thanks.

We dwelled a bit on Russia when I was apping Niko in the spin off and Harb and I suggested it would pretty much the same land mass of Russia, though I guess you can discuss it in more detail with other countries. Maybe Siberia would be a separate nation. I dunno.

Earlier we discused reducing the country sizes (Large countries would be less common after the Order) by creating several states.

Speaking of which, should China be one unified country? Its seems little too large for a post Order world...

I agree screw China
I concur, let's reduce China's size.
Global War on Crime
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Operation: VENGEFUL SPIRIT
|____|
Order of the Purple Cross
______
Al-Khalifiya Campaign
_|||_|||_
Arabic Spain Remembrance
______
Aravean Liberation
______
Magian Defense
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Postby Charmera » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:48 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Charmera wrote:Earlier we discused reducing the country sizes (Large countries would be less common after the Order) by creating several states.

Speaking of which, should China be one unified country? Its seems little too large for a post Order world...

I agree screw China
I concur, let's reduce China's size.

Indeed, we could have something like a modern warring states period, or perhaps two separate nations (One capitalist, one Psuedo Communist. Like our universe yet the capitalist have more land)

Also, I live in China.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:50 pm

Charmera wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:I agree screw China
I concur, let's reduce China's size.

Indeed, we could have something like a modern warring states period, or perhaps two separate nations (One capitalist, one Psuedo Communist. Like our universe yet the capitalist have more land)

Also, I live in China.

Warring states period sounds interesting, so kind of like the feudal wars under the... Xing I think it was?
Global War on Crime
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Operation: VENGEFUL SPIRIT
|____|
Order of the Purple Cross
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Al-Khalifiya Campaign
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Arabic Spain Remembrance
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Aravean Liberation
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Magian Defense
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:52 pm

Charmera wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:I agree screw China
I concur, let's reduce China's size.

Indeed, we could have something like a modern warring states period, or perhaps two separate nations (One capitalist, one Psuedo Communist. Like our universe yet the capitalist have more land)

Also, I live in China.


I'm sorry you live in China. They blocked YouTube. It must be hard for you without YouTube...

Anyway, how about Monarchist Chinese and Psuedo Communist Chinese as split countries fighting with eachother?
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:53 pm

Charmera wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:I agree screw China
I concur, let's reduce China's size.

Indeed, we could have something like a modern warring states period, or perhaps two separate nations (One capitalist, one Psuedo Communist. Like our universe yet the capitalist have more land)

Also, I live in China.


I've always wanted to visit China.

Post Order world...maybe Hong Kong is independent?

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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:54 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Charmera wrote:Indeed, we could have something like a modern warring states period, or perhaps two separate nations (One capitalist, one Psuedo Communist. Like our universe yet the capitalist have more land)

Also, I live in China.


I'm sorry you live in China. They blocked YouTube. It must be hard for you without YouTube...

Anyway, how about Monarchist Chinese and Psuedo Communist Chinese as split countries fighting with eachother?

Monarchy okay, but please no Commie Chinese... add that to the positionable Soviet Russia and that turns into a game of Civ V East vs West <.<
Global War on Crime
______
Operation: VENGEFUL SPIRIT
|____|
Order of the Purple Cross
______
Al-Khalifiya Campaign
_|||_|||_
Arabic Spain Remembrance
______
Aravean Liberation
______
Magian Defense
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Postby Charmera » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:56 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Charmera wrote:Indeed, we could have something like a modern warring states period, or perhaps two separate nations (One capitalist, one Psuedo Communist. Like our universe yet the capitalist have more land)

Also, I live in China.


I'm sorry you live in China. They blocked YouTube. It must be hard for you without YouTube...

Anyway, how about Monarchist Chinese and Psuedo Communist Chinese as split countries fighting with eachother?

Actaully I live in Hong Kong. Which is still China yet not...China.
Perhaps Monarchist China vs Capitalist China, the former valuing old Confucian and Buddist Values while the other is, well capitalist.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:57 pm

We don't have many Monarchist nations in the post Order era, apart from an area of Canada.

A Monarchist China? Its an intriguing idea, we can develop this.


Confucianism, Buddhism, the Old Religion, etc.

But which region of China are we talking about?

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:57 pm

Charmera wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
I'm sorry you live in China. They blocked YouTube. It must be hard for you without YouTube...

Anyway, how about Monarchist Chinese and Psuedo Communist Chinese as split countries fighting with eachother?

Actaully I live in Hong Kong. Which is still China yet not...China.
Perhaps Monarchist China vs Capitalist China, the former valuing old Confucian and Buddist Values while the other is, well capitalist.


That...is an excellent idea Charm.

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:00 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
I'm sorry you live in China. They blocked YouTube. It must be hard for you without YouTube...

Anyway, how about Monarchist Chinese and Psuedo Communist Chinese as split countries fighting with eachother?

Monarchy okay, but please no Commie Chinese... add that to the positionable Soviet Russia and that turns into a game of Civ V East vs West <.<


While Communism doesn't really exist in OM&T, socialism on the other hand certainly does, though the post Order era is rather capitalist.

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Postby Charmera » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:00 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:We don't have many Monarchist nations in the post Order era, apart from an area of Canada.

A Monarchist China? Its an intriguing idea, we can develop this.


Confucianism, Buddhism, the Old Religion, etc.

But which region of China are we talking about?

Perhaps the Eastern region? The Western Region being capitalist.
Then there's Mongolia... What to do with Mongolia...?

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Charmera wrote:Actaully I live in Hong Kong. Which is still China yet not...China.
Perhaps Monarchist China vs Capitalist China, the former valuing old Confucian and Buddist Values while the other is, well capitalist.


That...is an excellent idea Charm.

Thanks...Though I've obviously Ignored Mongolia...
Meh, I suppose it can be part of both.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:01 pm

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:We don't have many Monarchist nations in the post Order era, apart from an area of Canada.

A Monarchist China? Its an intriguing idea, we can develop this.


Confucianism, Buddhism, the Old Religion, etc.

But which region of China are we talking about?

Perhaps the Eastern region? The Western Region being capitalist.
Then there's Mongolia... What to do with Mongolia...?

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
That...is an excellent idea Charm.

Thanks...Though I've obviously Ignored Mongolia...
Meh, I suppose it can be part of both.


And what about Tibet?

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Postby Charmera » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:03 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Charmera wrote:Perhaps the Eastern region? The Western Region being capitalist.
Then there's Mongolia... What to do with Mongolia...?


Thanks...Though I've obviously Ignored Mongolia...
Meh, I suppose it can be part of both.


And what about Tibet?

Perhaps an independent Buddhist Haven?
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:And here, we see a wild Shittonicus Charactericus, coloquially known as Charmera, in its natural habitat. It seems to be displaying behavior expected from one of its kind, producing numerous characters and juggling them with its front paws.

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:05 pm

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
And what about Tibet?

Perhaps an independent Buddhist Haven?


Yes, that can work.

As for Mongolia....

Lets see...it depends on how big Eastern and Western China become...

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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:05 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
I'm sorry you live in China. They blocked YouTube. It must be hard for you without YouTube...

Anyway, how about Monarchist Chinese and Psuedo Communist Chinese as split countries fighting with eachother?

Monarchy okay, but please no Commie Chinese... add that to the positionable Soviet Russia and that turns into a game of Civ V East vs West <.<


It would make more sense. Just so you know, the Soviet Union and China almost went to war in the past so really it wouldn't be like that.

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Monarchy okay, but please no Commie Chinese... add that to the positionable Soviet Russia and that turns into a game of Civ V East vs West <.<


While Communism doesn't really exist in OM&T, socialism on the other hand certainly does, though the post Order era is rather capitalist.


Marx would have still wrote his books and I'm guessing because the Russian Revolution never happened, Lenin would also have wrote a book detailing how he would have done it thus that's how Niko rules New Russia. So yeah, it sort of exists. We can develop that later though.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:06 pm

Charmera wrote:
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And what about Tibet?

Perhaps an independent Buddhist Haven?

I could so send Robert there to train, maybe then he could get that PTSD under control....
nevermind, I thought you said Confucian
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Global War on Crime
______
Operation: VENGEFUL SPIRIT
|____|
Order of the Purple Cross
______
Al-Khalifiya Campaign
_|||_|||_
Arabic Spain Remembrance
______
Aravean Liberation
______
Magian Defense
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:07 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Monarchy okay, but please no Commie Chinese... add that to the positionable Soviet Russia and that turns into a game of Civ V East vs West <.<


It would make more sense. Just so you know, the Soviet Union and China almost went to war in the past so really it wouldn't be like that.

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
While Communism doesn't really exist in OM&T, socialism on the other hand certainly does, though the post Order era is rather capitalist.


Marx would have still wrote his books and I'm guessing because the Russian Revolution never happened, Lenin would also have wrote a book detailing how he would have done it thus that's how Niko rules New Russia. So yeah, it sort of exists. We can develop that later though.


The Order was still in power by the time Marx and Lenin became politically active in the real world.

Since the world was unified, in a way a form of socialism already existed.

Marx, if he wrote the manifesto, he would have written it underground as the Order would have seen his ideas as a threat.

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:11 pm

Do you think this post Order Tibet reestablished the Dalai Lama system?

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