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The Vaktovian Empire
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:41 pm

Graknopia wrote:
Galter Gulcher wrote:
It totals out to 96 Billion US Dollars.

-Cough-

We uh....
-Cough-
Wanna-shorten-the-list?


Ok. Here's what ill do. I already divided the amount twice now. So the main list stays. What we do do is... we shorten it to 1 light carrier and 5 destroyers. And we up the price to 100,000,000 U.S dollars. That and the fact your getting yourself a new ally and one that could quite frankly become communist itself is good I think. Plus if I pay 100 M that's a whole tenth of my military total budget which I think is a fair amount to take. Deal? Are we agreed? :)

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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:42 pm

Ptolemais wrote:
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:lol2: :lol2: I set myself for that one :lol2: :lol2:

I meant supported by what kind of idealism


It's a military coup. Ideology appears to be insanity, as they have no problems breaching the Vienna Convention on their first day on the job. As it always does with these kind of RP's, it looks like we're going to have a UN intervention in Venezuela.

Colombia and Brazil should get in on that.


They attacked a U.S. Embassy? Well, Colombia needs to do something.

I mean, if everyone is ok with it, Colombia can intervene.
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Graknopia
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Postby Graknopia » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:48 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
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Just the coup in your neighbour Venezuela and the ongoing hostage situation of foreign diplomats. I'm sure that concerns Colombia.


What kind of coup is it?

The-kinda-coup-thats-supports-china


But-china's-like

FUCK-THAT


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Postby Graknopia » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:50 pm

Also-Belarus, wanna sign a defensive alliance? Same with Russia, North-Korea perhaps? Vietnam, Somaliland?


GTFO-Venezuela
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The Vaktovian Empire
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:50 pm

Gram. I feel as if your not happy. And I know what happens when your not happy. Remember the skyrim thread? When I marched imperial troops into solitude on the middle of the night? Yeahhhh. :blink:

Anyway we shall be great allies. :hug:

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:51 pm

Graknopia wrote:Also-Belarus, wanna sign a defensive alliance? Same with Russia, North-Korea perhaps? Vietnam, Somaliland?


GTFO-Venezuela


Yes agreed. Any certain circumstanses that go along with the defense pact? Like if I attack someone or something or is it the FULL defense pact. But whichever yes.

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Postby Bujahla » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:52 pm

I also agree with everyone else on here mentioning BRS's lack of experience and RPing Germany.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:54 pm

Bujahla wrote:I also agree with everyone else on here mentioning BRS's lack of experience and RPing Germany.


Yes. But like I said. He needs to be mentored. So in the future he can rp countries like Germany. So we all need to pitch in and help him a little bit. Also is the OP still controlling the thread Bujahla or are you? If not then we should start a new OOC and migrate everyone from here to there to help sort out whose here and whose not.

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Postby Ptolemais » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:54 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
They attacked a U.S. Embassy? Well, Colombia needs to do something.

I mean, if everyone is ok with it, Colombia can intervene.


US, British and French embassies were initially violated. Japan called that barbaric and forgot to get its people the hell out so now the Japanese embassy has been raided as well. Still waiting to find out if some Japanese consular staff were executed.

Unless you got local news, Japan hasn't gone public with its embassy being violated yet.
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Postby Graknopia » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:56 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Graknopia wrote:Also-Belarus, wanna sign a defensive alliance? Same with Russia, North-Korea perhaps? Vietnam, Somaliland?


GTFO-Venezuela


Yes agreed. Any certain circumstanses that go along with the defense pact? Like if I attack someone or something or is it the FULL defense pact. But whichever yes.

Your-attacked-by-Germany
You-attack-Germany

Basically, I was thinking it would stem into a little Federation.. Anyone who is attacked would be defended by all. If you attack , deals-off
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:00 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:
Well, the problem is you went to all extremes of the spectrum completely out of character for any state short of maybe North Korea.

China being a bit of an ass? Double military spending.
Civilians upset about increase in military spending? Civil war being put down with military force.
German leader somehow being run out of their country? Flee to Soviet-style dictatorship of Belarus.

Everything should be in moderation, and even moderate actions can have wild consequences but at least they are realistic.

Germany is a tough country to RP because it is one of the most powerful in the world and it effects most areas of international relations significantly. Maybe try a less prominent country where at least if you go to extremes it can be written off as a coup or what have you.

I'm not trying to be mean, I just think we have a good RP going and we should keep it realistic. If you were really concerned about Chinese aggression you could have threatened economic sanctions or raised spending by something like 10%, which could easily happen. Your citizens could have been upset and, as in most democracies, may have gone out to protest. Some may be violent, but not likely to result in significant casualties. If your leader needs out of the country, do what every other leader does in that situation; state visit to another country.

It takes a bit to RP entire countries since its on such a large scale, but you'll get the hang of it with practice :D


I agree with this. Not that we're trying to be mean BRS, but you do only have around 300 posts. That's not very seasoned. Once you get to around 700, then you'll be seasoned. I know I was. Now I've been on NS for 3 years, and since I got on and off ALLLOOOOTTTT I only have around 2000 posts. But I'm a very seasoned RPer. I know how to play some countries isolationist (Belarus) and some on a international level (I sometimes play as Russia) Or a unified Europe, or America, or other nations. Whatever. The point is... maybe Germany isn't the best nation for you. We can help you and mentor you if you allow us, as I'm assuming Ptolemais wouldn't mind mentoring a little. But we're also not RP Mentors. That's stuff for actual RP Mentors to deal with. But if you be a country allied with Belarus, I can show you the ropes while also being big brother. :twisted: But really,
:)


Actually, I'm used to running nothing countries, like Brazil, who really only affects South America, then manipulating them to become world powers that I would like.

My main Roski should have near 600 posts within itself
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:03 pm

Also, it was just the President who fled. The Chancellor thanked them because its her job.

The President of Germany is Joachim Guack, and he is the leader of the country.
The Chancellor, Angela Merkel, is the head of the Government, and oversees budgets and what not.
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Bujahla
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Postby Bujahla » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:06 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Bujahla wrote:I also agree with everyone else on here mentioning BRS's lack of experience and RPing Germany.


Yes. But like I said. He needs to be mentored. So in the future he can rp countries like Germany. So we all need to pitch in and help him a little bit. Also is the OP still controlling the thread Bujahla or are you? If not then we should start a new OOC and migrate everyone from here to there to help sort out whose here and whose not.


I'm the Co-OP but the OP is out most of the time. I would like to move it, but I would need his permission to do so.
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:10 pm

Ptolemais wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
They attacked a U.S. Embassy? Well, Colombia needs to do something.

I mean, if everyone is ok with it, Colombia can intervene.


US, British and French embassies were initially violated. Japan called that barbaric and forgot to get its people the hell out so now the Japanese embassy has been raided as well. Still waiting to find out if some Japanese consular staff were executed.

Unless you got local news, Japan hasn't gone public with its embassy being violated yet.


So does the US, France, Britain and Japan agree with Colombia intervening?
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Postby Waztaskio » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:13 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:
US, British and French embassies were initially violated. Japan called that barbaric and forgot to get its people the hell out so now the Japanese embassy has been raided as well. Still waiting to find out if some Japanese consular staff were executed.

Unless you got local news, Japan hasn't gone public with its embassy being violated yet.


So does the US, France, Britain and Japan agree with Colombia intervening?

I don't mind, they are breaking international law anyway. And we will make a U.N. resolution concerning it anyway.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:33 pm

Waztaskio wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
So does the US, France, Britain and Japan agree with Colombia intervening?

I don't mind, they are breaking international law anyway. And we will make a U.N. resolution concerning it anyway.


Alright, cool :)
What nation are you btw?
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Bolovia
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Postby Bolovia » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:35 pm

Columbia let the Pro's handle this one, you got problems of your own concerning drug lords and what not. Intervening in Venezuelan affairs constitutes an act of war, if any Colombian soldier sets foot on Venezuelan land you'll pay with blood and land.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:37 pm

Bolovia wrote:Columbia let the Pro's handle this one, you got problems of your own concerning drug lords and what not. Intervening in Venezuelan affairs constitutes an act of war, if any Colombian soldier sets foot on Venezuelan land you'll pay with blood and land.


Ok :(
Wait, what nation are you?
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Postby Bolovia » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:47 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Bolovia wrote:Columbia let the Pro's handle this one, you got problems of your own concerning drug lords and what not. Intervening in Venezuelan affairs constitutes an act of war, if any Colombian soldier sets foot on Venezuelan land you'll pay with blood and land.


Ok :(
Wait, what nation are you?


Venezuela

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:53 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Ok :(
Wait, what nation are you?


Venezuela


Never mind, I thought you were one of the four I mentioned above. I will see what I do, I may or may not intervene.
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:28 pm

What was that about the Federation of Russia not being war mongerers? They just invaded half of the Middle East.
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Postby Galter Gulcher » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:29 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:What was that about the Federation of Russia not being war mongerers? They just invaded half of the Middle East.


????
They were behind the Sochi Olympics bombing.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:38 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:What was that about the Federation of Russia not being war mongerers? They just invaded half of the Middle East.


????
They were behind the Sochi Olympics bombing.

Earlier in the RP I proposed taking the entire middle east because of Sochi and letting America and Russia reap the benefits. Then, of course, like everything else I have done, I was told it would never happen, and that Russia isn't a war mongering nation.
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Postby The New Lowlands » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:53 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:Also, it was just the President who fled. The Chancellor thanked them because its her job.

The President of Germany is Joachim Guack, and he is the leader of the country.
The Chancellor, Angela Merkel, is the head of the Government, and oversees budgets and what not.

In Germany, the Presidency is an essentially ceremonial position.
The Chancellor holds all the real power.

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Postby Cyllea » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:43 am

Official Name of Nation: The Argentine Republic
Population estimate: 41,660,417
Head of State: Cristina Fernández de Kirchner
Head of Government: Cristina Fernández de Kirchner
Capital City: Buenos Aires

A brief rundown of the military
Army:44,233 military personnel, 16,000 reservists
Air Force: 14,600 personnel
Navy: Not sure, wikipedia doesn't say.
Anything else? http://globalfirepower.com/country-mili ... =Argentina

Describe the Government system: Democratic? Not sure what else to add.
Describe the economy: Central free market
Describe the state of Foreign Affairs: Generally maintains neutral or friendly relations with most nations. Notable that it has rocky relations with the UK and North Korea. Also notable that it has extremely good relations with Spain and most South American nations.
Describe the state of the nation internally: Good..? Not sure what else to say. Drug trade is at a minimum unlike many South American nations. Debatable that it is the most stable nation in South America, due to Brazil's crime problem and drug issues in many other South American nations.
Any additional notes: The Argentine government has recently made it a higher priority to add The Falkland Islands, The South Sandwich Islands and The South Georgia Islands to its recognized territory.

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