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Postby Lolloh » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:01 pm

Moldova! Though I'm not sure I'll continue.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:02 pm

Lolloh wrote:Moldova! Though I'm not sure I'll continue.

No one has done anything to you or threatened to in IC.
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The new united britsh empire
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Postby The new united britsh empire » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:31 pm

Guys, how about we take our timings from the associated press so that we are on the same page
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:33 pm

The new united britsh empire wrote:Guys, how about we take our timings from the associated press so that we are on the same page


We should at least be in March.

Maybe March 3/4
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Postby Forty Twoania » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:41 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Graknopia wrote:Especially since they could never really "break away" when I control Hong-Kongs national-security.

EDIT: Why is germany even sowing dissent in China anyway... I have the second largest military...And they tried it with Hong-Kong, who is literally controlled by me. China picks the politicians. Either way Hong-Kong, wanna RP in some way?


Russia and USA would pound you into oblivion.

And because, I have a strong stance against China in real life, and now that I control a country that has say in the world, I'm showing my disdain.

And Hong Kong is the ONLY reason China got to where it was at. China was nothing country until Hong Kong got ceeded back, and the World Player appeared.

You obviously have no understanding of history or geopolitics. China has been the dominate civilization for most of history. Yes it was even more powerful than the Roman Empire at its height. It only in around1500s when Spain became the first global power that China began to fall back. Eventually Spain fell and Britain rose and brought European civilization to its peak but then came the great wars which brought the continent to its knee's and then we have America and that's where we are today. Modern China (post communist take over) has always been a global player the communist government was able to develop China rather quickly due to the fact that China has a lot of people which means a lot of money and a lot of exports. In the Cold War china can reasonably be considered the third player both USSR and US were very worried about China going on the other side. The reason Hong Kong was given to china is because china pressured the UK to give it to them. Hong Kong has had no effect on China and will not have a big effect on china in the future .
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Graknopia
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Postby Graknopia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:45 pm

Germany, im not planning on going to war with Japan/USA. Its literally a pissing match, but then you asked Hong-Kong to break-away. (I dont even need it, really.) And I know I cant reach Europe easily, if at all. (So your spending is uncalled for)

North-Korea: I absolutely refuse to war South Korea unless they declare war first, for future reference.
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:50 pm

Graknopia wrote:Germany, im not planning on going to war with Japan/USA. Its literally a pissing match, but then you asked Hong-Kong to break-away. (I dont even need it, really.) And I know I cant reach Europe easily, if at all. (So your spending is uncalled for)

North-Korea: I absolutely refuse to war South Korea unless they declare war first, for future reference.


Yes well, decrease your AIDZ and I will not have my spending. I've just learned that the treaty between the Soviet Union and the United States expired on June 1st, 2011.

So I can put myself on China's level and piss even further.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:53 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:
Russia and USA would pound you into oblivion.

And because, I have a strong stance against China in real life, and now that I control a country that has say in the world, I'm showing my disdain.

And Hong Kong is the ONLY reason China got to where it was at. China was nothing country until Hong Kong got ceeded back, and the World Player appeared.

You obviously have no understanding of history or geopolitics. China has been the dominate civilization for most of history. Yes it was even more powerful than the Roman Empire at its height. It only in around1500s when Spain became the first global power that China began to fall back. Eventually Spain fell and Britain rose and brought European civilization to its peak but then came the great wars which brought the continent to its knee's and then we have America and that's where we are today. Modern China (post communist take over) has always been a global player the communist government was able to develop China rather quickly due to the fact that China has a lot of people which means a lot of money and a lot of exports. In the Cold War china can reasonably be considered the third player both USSR and US were very worried about China going on the other side. The reason Hong Kong was given to china is because china pressured the UK to give it to them. Hong Kong has had no effect on China and will not have a big effect on china in the future .


1: I do
2: *most*
3: Not necessarily. It was when it was controlled by Mongolia
4: Modern China would be nothing if it wasn't for Hong-Kong, I promise.
5: Post-Hong-Kong
6: It may if China wants to survive the housing bubble collapse.
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:56 pm

Even funnier, if I was to increase my spending, and America does not allow my purchase, I can't do much. :/

I can come up with a plan myself (which will take like four decades), and I would need to by all of my stuff from China.

Ha.

I just realized NATO could screw me over without violating the treaty for them.

-_-
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Lolloh
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Postby Lolloh » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:58 pm

Sigh. Would a country change be OK? I don't think the Ukraine is taken.
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Population is 135 million, plus 3 million in the colonies
National Army: 400,000 active (500,000 reserve)
Air Force: 100,000 active (200,000 reserve)
Navy: 200,000 active (400,000 reserve)
National Guard: 270,000 (all reserve)
Police Corps: 320,000 (paramilitary)
TOTAL: 2,400,000 (5.2/1000 active,17.8/1000 total)

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Postby The new united britsh empire » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:03 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:Yes well, decrease your AIDZ and I will not have my spending. I've just learned that the treaty between the Soviet Union and the United States expired on June 1st, 2011.

So I can put myself on China's level and piss even further.


Listen, you have very limited knowledge about life Geo-Politics and International Relations; either accept our help and guidance or at least attempt at realistic RPing, or sod off because you acting like a bit of a political hipster and/or n00b and it's beginning to annoy me.
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Postby Forty Twoania » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:29 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Forty Twoania wrote:You obviously have no understanding of history or geopolitics. China has been the dominate civilization for most of history. Yes it was even more powerful than the Roman Empire at its height. It only in around1500s when Spain became the first global power that China began to fall back. Eventually Spain fell and Britain rose and brought European civilization to its peak but then came the great wars which brought the continent to its knee's and then we have America and that's where we are today. Modern China (post communist take over) has always been a global player the communist government was able to develop China rather quickly due to the fact that China has a lot of people which means a lot of money and a lot of exports. In the Cold War china can reasonably be considered the third player both USSR and US were very worried about China going on the other side. The reason Hong Kong was given to china is because china pressured the UK to give it to them. Hong Kong has had no effect on China and will not have a big effect on china in the future .


1: I do
2: *most*
3: Not necessarily. It was when it was controlled by Mongolia
4: Modern China would be nothing if it wasn't for Hong-Kong, I promise.
5: Post-Hong-Kong
6: It may if China wants to survive the housing bubble collapse.

1: nope
2: 500 years for The West 2000+ for china ya most
3: if you knew any thing about history you would know that the upper class Mongols where assimilated into Chinese culture and therefore continued Chinese supremacy under the Yuan dynasty. Besides Europe at this time was a collection of small kingdoms still recovering from the fall of Rome. Thy had nothing on china
4: wrong Hong Kong has nowhere near the population economy military or influence as China China was already powerful both economically and politically before Hong Kong
5: not sure what your trying to say by this since their is no time period in Chinese history named post Hong Kong
6: Hong Kong has no effect on a country that is infinitely bigger than it in every aspect.
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:33 pm

:rofl:
Hong Kong = China, seems legit
Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, all are equal to Hong Kong.

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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:48 pm

Alleniana wrote::rofl:
Hong Kong = China, seems legit
Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, all are equal to Hong Kong.


They are now.

China benefited from the trade that the west did with Hong Kong. They suddenly got all of that business.

Why else would Hong Kong be the only city with its own government
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Postby Columbion » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:49 pm

Columbion wrote:Official Name of Nation: Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Population estimate: 25 Million
Head of State: Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un
Head of Government: Kim Yong-nam
Capital City: Pyongyang

A brief rundown of the military
Army: 1,000,000
Air Force: 500,000
Navy: 500,000
Anything else? (Nukes, Chemical Weapons, Missiles, anything that doesn't fit in the other ones)

Describe the Government system: The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a Dominant Party Juche state. The dominant party is the Workers' Party of Korea which adopts the idea of Juche. Juche which main motto is ""man is the master of everything and decides everything" can be seen as a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist style system with an emphasis on the Korean people and their culture. This emphasis is to maximize the effectiveness of the ideas of Marx Lenin and Mao for the Korean people by adding political independence, economic self-sustenance, and self-reliance in defense. The country on a national level is ran by a unicameral parliament, the Supreme People's Assembly which is the final destination for a proposal before it is passed and becomes the law.
Describe the economy: The economy is heavily centralized to prevent things such as exploitation of workers. Centralization basically means that the government has control over all industries and there are no private owners of a company. This middle man eliminates a large sum of money in the prices which enables the prices of items to be cheaper then they would if there was privatization. The economy is recovering from a long depression which started in the early 1990s when they virtually lost all of their major trading partners in Eastern Europe. After the loss of their major trading partners the DPRK was forced to change their approach to trading with nations that do not share their morales and ideals. The main exports for the DPRK are minerals, metallurgical products, manufactures (including armaments), textiles, agricultural and fishery products, coal, iron ore, limestone, graphite, copper, zinc, and lead which they trade with their three major trading partners, China, Republic of Korea, and India. The GDP is $40 billion and per capita is $1,800. The GDP by sector are as follows: 43.1% in industry, 33.6% in services, 23.3% in agriculture and fisheries. The standard of living in the North has raised tremendously since the depression in the 90s, the blackouts have been stopped, the people are able to get food at a very cheap price since food is a necessity, and medical care has increased dramatically in the past few years due to advances in science and the boost in the economy.
Describe the state of Foreign Affairs: The DPRK is generally isolated from the world but does maintain relations with China, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Bolivia, Belarus, and Russia
Describe the state of the nation internally: (Just how it's doing in general, basically) Since Kim Jong-un took power, the DPRK has seen an increase in the quality of life. However, the Worker's Party of Korea is facing few issues within their party. With Songun not being needed, the few politicians which gained their power by military rank are fighting to keep their position while others fighting to remove them since their presence is no longer needed.
Any additional notes: To prevent claims of "godmodding" I must emphasis the amount of reserves the Korean People's Army has, they have over 8 million in their reserves due to the Songun (Military First Policy). However, these reserves are specifically designed only to be used in the events of an invasion from say the United States, South Korea, or Japan. These 8 million in reserve serve as militia for their towns and cities. The reserves are not as well trained and armed as the main army but they do provide a huge boost in the KPA's fight to defend the DPRK from an invader. The main army which is deployed is designed for both defense and offense.

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The January 31st, 2014 Edition of the Rodong Sinmun newspaper, Juche 103
Marshal KIM JONG UN has announced that he will be preparing visits throughout the countryside to see what needs to be done to boost the countries industry output. He plans to kick off this trip on February 10th in Anju which is north of Pyongyang. Marshal KIM JONG UN is planned to arrive at Anju's town hall by motorcade where he will meet the local leaders on what needs to be done to boost Anju's output in their coal production. He also hopes that his visit will also boost the morale of the workers to do even better then what they are doing and to inspire the children that no matter what the job they will be doing in the future, that they will still be very important and that they are the backbone which keep the DPRK standing tall against all other nations. In other news, Marshal KIM JONG UN has extended an invitation to new Chinese President Xi Jinping to visit the country and to see the many beautiful things the DPRK has and he hopes that this will tighten the bond between the two nations and to return to the friendship that both nations had when both founders, Chairman Mao Tse-Tung and Eternal President KIM IL SUNG were still alive.

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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:50 pm

Columbion wrote:
Columbion wrote:Official Name of Nation: Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Population estimate: 25 Million
Head of State: Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un
Head of Government: Kim Yong-nam
Capital City: Pyongyang

A brief rundown of the military
Army: 1,000,000
Air Force: 500,000
Navy: 500,000
Anything else? (Nukes, Chemical Weapons, Missiles, anything that doesn't fit in the other ones)

Describe the Government system: The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a Dominant Party Juche state. The dominant party is the Workers' Party of Korea which adopts the idea of Juche. Juche which main motto is ""man is the master of everything and decides everything" can be seen as a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist style system with an emphasis on the Korean people and their culture. This emphasis is to maximize the effectiveness of the ideas of Marx Lenin and Mao for the Korean people by adding political independence, economic self-sustenance, and self-reliance in defense. The country on a national level is ran by a unicameral parliament, the Supreme People's Assembly which is the final destination for a proposal before it is passed and becomes the law.
Describe the economy: The economy is heavily centralized to prevent things such as exploitation of workers. Centralization basically means that the government has control over all industries and there are no private owners of a company. This middle man eliminates a large sum of money in the prices which enables the prices of items to be cheaper then they would if there was privatization. The economy is recovering from a long depression which started in the early 1990s when they virtually lost all of their major trading partners in Eastern Europe. After the loss of their major trading partners the DPRK was forced to change their approach to trading with nations that do not share their morales and ideals. The main exports for the DPRK are minerals, metallurgical products, manufactures (including armaments), textiles, agricultural and fishery products, coal, iron ore, limestone, graphite, copper, zinc, and lead which they trade with their three major trading partners, China, Republic of Korea, and India. The GDP is $40 billion and per capita is $1,800. The GDP by sector are as follows: 43.1% in industry, 33.6% in services, 23.3% in agriculture and fisheries. The standard of living in the North has raised tremendously since the depression in the 90s, the blackouts have been stopped, the people are able to get food at a very cheap price since food is a necessity, and medical care has increased dramatically in the past few years due to advances in science and the boost in the economy.
Describe the state of Foreign Affairs: The DPRK is generally isolated from the world but does maintain relations with China, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Bolivia, Belarus, and Russia
Describe the state of the nation internally: (Just how it's doing in general, basically) Since Kim Jong-un took power, the DPRK has seen an increase in the quality of life. However, the Worker's Party of Korea is facing few issues within their party. With Songun not being needed, the few politicians which gained their power by military rank are fighting to keep their position while others fighting to remove them since their presence is no longer needed.
Any additional notes: To prevent claims of "godmodding" I must emphasis the amount of reserves the Korean People's Army has, they have over 8 million in their reserves due to the Songun (Military First Policy). However, these reserves are specifically designed only to be used in the events of an invasion from say the United States, South Korea, or Japan. These 8 million in reserve serve as militia for their towns and cities. The reserves are not as well trained and armed as the main army but they do provide a huge boost in the KPA's fight to defend the DPRK from an invader. The main army which is deployed is designed for both defense and offense.

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Democratic People's Republic of Korea

The January 31st, 2014 Edition of the Rodong Sinmun newspaper, Juche 103
Marshal KIM JONG UN has announced that he will be preparing visits throughout the countryside to see what needs to be done to boost the countries industry output. He plans to kick off this trip on February 10th in Anju which is north of Pyongyang. Marshal KIM JONG UN is planned to arrive at Anju's town hall by motorcade where he will meet the local leaders on what needs to be done to boost Anju's output in their coal production. He also hopes that his visit will also boost the morale of the workers to do even better then what they are doing and to inspire the children that no matter what the job they will be doing in the future, that they will still be very important and that they are the backbone which keep the DPRK standing tall against all other nations. In other news, Marshal KIM JONG UN has extended an invitation to new Chinese President Xi Jinping to visit the country and to see the many beautiful things the DPRK has and he hopes that this will tighten the bond between the two nations and to return to the friendship that both nations had when both founders, Chairman Mao Tse-Tung and Eternal President KIM IL SUNG were still alive.


I don't think the ops are on mate. Hold on.
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:01 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Alleniana wrote::rofl:
Hong Kong = China, seems legit
Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, all are equal to Hong Kong.


They are now.

China benefited from the trade that the west did with Hong Kong. They suddenly got all of that business.

Why else would Hong Kong be the only city with its own government

Still, Hong Kong doesn't equal China. More people live in Shanghai, more government structures are in Beijing, etc.

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Postby Farendale » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:05 pm

Alleniana wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:
They are now.

China benefited from the trade that the west did with Hong Kong. They suddenly got all of that business.

Why else would Hong Kong be the only city with its own government

Still, Hong Kong doesn't equal China. More people live in Shanghai, more government structures are in Beijing, etc.


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Postby Forty Twoania » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:13 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Alleniana wrote::rofl:
Hong Kong = China, seems legit
Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, all are equal to Hong Kong.


They are now.

China benefited from the trade that the west did with Hong Kong. They suddenly got all of that business.

Why else would Hong Kong be the only city with its own government

China traded with the west before it got Hong Kong in 1999. Hong Kong is not the only trade port in china it's not even the biggest

Macau also has it's own government. Hong Kong is not important
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Postby Farendale » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:16 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:
They are now.

China benefited from the trade that the west did with Hong Kong. They suddenly got all of that business.

Why else would Hong Kong be the only city with its own government

China traded with the west before it got Hong Kong in 1999. Hong Kong is not the only trade port in china it's not even the biggest

Macau also has it's own government. Hong Kong is not important


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Postby Bolovia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:34 pm

Sorry guys I haven't been posting this past week, members of the family have past so I have taken a small break but I should have a post up later on tonight and I am fully up to date on whats happening IC wise, so thanks for not kicking me out I really appreciate it.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:36 pm

Yes, well all that matters now is that Germany has basically said "F you China, leave Asia alone"
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Postby Graknopia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:57 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:Yes, well all that matters now is that Germany has basically said "F you China, leave Asia alone"

I honestly dont care about Germany and will not stop the zone because of someone-in-Europe. (Plus your massive military spending doesnt make sense at all)
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Postby Alleniana » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:10 am

The Broken Russian States wrote:Yes, well all that matters now is that Germany has basically said "F you China, leave Asia alone"

How the hell does China, an Asian country, leave Asia alone?

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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:28 am

Bolovia wrote:Sorry guys I haven't been posting this past week, members of the family have past so I have taken a small break but I should have a post up later on tonight and I am fully up to date on whats happening IC wise, so thanks for not kicking me out I really appreciate it.

I'm truly sorry to hear it, I hope you're ok. :/

DPRK accepted, Zeinbrad, we're trying to retain at least some realism, also, I should likely make an OP ruling on Germany seeing how intense this argument is getting.

I rule that Germany may increase military spending, but the amount they're increasing it by needs to be reduced by nearly a hundred times before I will accept it.

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