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Forty Twoania
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Postby Forty Twoania » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:11 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Forty Twoania wrote:Their is no deadline on the treaty. The treaty is still in effect its irrelevant weather the Soviet Union collapsed or not.

West Germany is The Federal Republic of Germany that still exists today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:12 pm

Ptolemais wrote:Wow, Germany, you know your defence budget increase would put you in 2nd place for largest military expenditures, almost doubling China and dwarfing Russia. That's going to set off alarm bells internationally just because of the shift in power. I'd think your people would be rioting in the streets if you privatized social security. This is so unrealistic it's not even funny. It is even ironic that it's Germany. We all remember what happened last time Germany rapidly re-armed.


Its not being given away. And thats one less tax you have to pay. and unlike in World War 2, I'm not a psychopathic racist moron with the intention of world domination.

And I most definitely will not be invading Russia, winter or not.

And the fact that I posted that yesterday, and nobody responded to it seems pretty good to me.
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:13 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:

West Germany is The Federal Republic of Germany that still exists today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany


West Germany was the Republic of Germany.

The Federal Republic of Germany includes twice the land, about twice the population, and a heck of a lot more allies.
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Postby Ptolemais » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:16 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Its not being given away. And thats one less tax you have to pay.


So you're removing social security tax? Well, now you've just reduced your income making this military increase unaffordable.
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Postby Forty Twoania » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:17 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Forty Twoania wrote:West Germany is The Federal Republic of Germany that still exists today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany


West Germany was the Republic of Germany.

The Federal Republic of Germany includes twice the land, about twice the population, and a heck of a lot more allies.

nope still Federal Republic of Germany
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany
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The Broken Russian States
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:18 pm

OHHH yes.

My military build up is in Response to China. While NATO may not care, I'm afraid of what China may be attempting to do. So stare at the Chinese before you get mad at me. I've already submitted a letter to the UN about my issues, and if the UN collectively decides China is being a dick, I will take that budget out of the Military and put it elsewhere.
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Postby The Broken Russian States » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:20 pm

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Its not being given away. And thats one less tax you have to pay.


So you're removing social security tax? Well, now you've just reduced your income making this military increase unaffordable.


Actually, that is wrong. As social security is privatized, other tax laws in Germany will be getting increased revenue, and a lot of the money will be coming from healthcare as well, which also, because of the new law, more laws will have increased revenue.

So, I'm simply shifting how I am getting my revenue, and technically I'd be getting more revenue from the laws.

I'm not an idiot. I though all of it out.

You might say I'm tryharding at Roleplaying.
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Postby Forty Twoania » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:21 pm

UN thread here http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=280800
also on the first page of occ

China is no where near Germany your build has no purpose
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Postby Ptolemais » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:25 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:OHHH yes.

My military build up is in Response to China. While NATO may not care, I'm afraid of what China may be attempting to do. So stare at the Chinese before you get mad at me. I've already submitted a letter to the UN about my issues, and if the UN collectively decides China is being a dick, I will take that budget out of the Military and put it elsewhere.


As Japan, i'm not too worried about Germany increasing military spending. I'd probably welcome it to counter China. If it was reasonable. Your budget increase makes me wonder if Merkel just finished reviving Hitler who is now hell-bent on establishing the Fourth Reich. I'm just worried that it's not very realistic. Maybe if you doubled your military budget to around $80bill that would be more realistic (still hugely outrageous, but within the bounds of realism).
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Postby Waztaskio » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:26 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:UN thread here http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=280800
also on the first page of occ

China is no where near Germany your build has no purpose

I'm still trying to get permission to redo it, as it is super messy....

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Postby Ptolemais » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:40 pm

Um, Farendale, are you just copy pasting RL news articles for your IC posts?
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Postby Equalium » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:43 pm

Moldova, please don't invade Transnistria. I wanna deal with this peacefully.
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Postby Lolloh » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:48 pm

Equalium wrote:Moldova, please don't invade Transnistria. I wanna deal with this peacefully.

OK, I'll listen. RP sending me a letter asking for peace talks. I'll scale down my military size and call off the plans to buy new equipment.
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Postby Talanzaar » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:53 pm

Why is everyone building up their military?

Is someone here planning to start WW3?
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Postby Graknopia » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:07 pm

The Broken Russian States wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:
So you're removing social security tax? Well, now you've just reduced your income making this military increase unaffordable.


Actually, that is wrong. As social security is privatized, other tax laws in Germany will be getting increased revenue, and a lot of the money will be coming from healthcare as well, which also, because of the new law, more laws will have increased revenue.

So, I'm simply shifting how I am getting my revenue, and technically I'd be getting more revenue from the laws.

I'm not an idiot. I though all of it out.

You might say I'm tryharding at Roleplaying.

Im quite confident that Hong-Kong will relay that message of yours to me, then we will see who the-world thinks the dick is.
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Postby Bujahla » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:14 pm

Talanzaar wrote:Why is everyone building up their military?

Is someone here planning to start WW3?


No but Broken Russian States is acting completely out of character...
*Huzzah he lives!*

Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Forty Twoania » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:15 pm

Graknopia wrote:
The Broken Russian States wrote:
Actually, that is wrong. As social security is privatized, other tax laws in Germany will be getting increased revenue, and a lot of the money will be coming from healthcare as well, which also, because of the new law, more laws will have increased revenue.

So, I'm simply shifting how I am getting my revenue, and technically I'd be getting more revenue from the laws.

I'm not an idiot. I though all of it out.

You might say I'm tryharding at Roleplaying.

Im quite confident that Hong-Kong will relay that message of yours to me, then we will see who the-world thinks the dick is.

I love how he thinks that tiny Hong Kong is vital to China and without it China will collapse :p
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Graknopia
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Postby Graknopia » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:21 pm

Forty Twoania wrote:
Graknopia wrote:Im quite confident that Hong-Kong will relay that message of yours to me, then we will see who the-world thinks the dick is.

I love how he thinks that tiny Hong Kong is vital to China and without it China will collapse :p

Especially since they could never really "break away" when I control Hong-Kongs national-security.

EDIT: Why is germany even sowing dissent in China anyway... I have the second largest military...And they tried it with Hong-Kong, who is literally controlled by me. China picks the politicians. Either way Hong-Kong, wanna RP in some way?
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Postby Kranstentistan » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:31 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Talanzaar wrote:Why is everyone building up their military?

Is someone here planning to start WW3?


No but Broken Russian States is acting completely out of character...

That's what I'm thinking. Though I don't know much about Germany or German culture, I don't think they're the type to just completely cut off public healthcare and welfare and start boosting up military spending, and I definitely don't think Germans are the type to let their government do such a thing.

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Postby Bujahla » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:38 pm

Kranstentistan wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
No but Broken Russian States is acting completely out of character...

That's what I'm thinking. Though I don't know much about Germany or German culture, I don't think they're the type to just completely cut off public healthcare and welfare and start boosting up military spending, and I definitely don't think Germans are the type to let their government do such a thing.


I take that back, now he's just being kind of stupid.

1. Letter to Russia and USA asking to invade the Middle East.
2. Off policy with heavy military revamp and public healthcare
3. Letter to Hong Kong.

Seriously man, I know you are new to RPing, but come on man. Read these guides:
viewtopic.php?p=9160667#p9160667
viewtopic.php?p=1354539#p1354539
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69551
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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:39 pm

Hmm to be the World Liberation Front.

They are a terrorist group, with a extremely smart person called Thrasher at the reigns.
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Postby Ptolemais » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:44 pm

south Korea, the issue is already on the table at the UN. Doesn't seem to be going anywhere, but Japan has requested the UN Civil Aviation regulator to step in and investigate.
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Postby Bujahla » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:45 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:Hmm to be the World Liberation Front.

They are a terrorist group, with a extremely smart person called Thrasher at the reigns.


OMG! Yes! It's you! I'd support this 10/10.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:48 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Hmm to be the World Liberation Front.

They are a terrorist group, with a extremely smart person called Thrasher at the reigns.


OMG! Yes! It's you! I'd support this 10/10.

Great, another fan.

Or should I be the Brothers and Sisters of Gaia.

They are religious fanatics who adorn themselves with religious tattoo's.

There also a Illuminati kind of faction.

Oh, and they have a badass creed I'm working on.
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Postby Graknopia » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:55 pm

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