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Elderowa
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Postby Elderowa » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:45 pm

Aldelxane wrote:Ok. Here's my plan by the way:

Step 1. Land on an island and establish a settlement
Step 2. Convince the King of the Maldives that he needs my protection, and convince him to accept status as a protectorate (they had a King )
Step 3. Be sure to accept their religion, and punish any colonist who does not
Step 4. Send more ships to secure the colony
Step 5. Build a settlement on each island
Step 6. Trade with the east and naval bases, with the King of the island willingly becoming a protectorate with his people respected and prospering alongside the colonists
Step 7. ???
Step 8. Profit

I essentially plan to start a new sea route from Asia to the Maldives to Abyssinia to Europe.


Maldives is actually perfect for your colonization actually: Maldives is already Muslim by this time, so no Conversions are needed. Plus, Maldives is a lot more Well Structured and Non-Tribal then all of the Places I got to Colonize :D

Sri Lanka, on the Other hand, is divided into like 6 different Kingdoms, and if you take one of them, then the other 5 might gang up on you and you might have a native rebellion on your hands (And none of them are Muslim).

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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:51 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Ok. Here's my plan by the way:

Step 1. Land on an island and establish a settlement
Step 2. Convince the King of the Maldives that he needs my protection, and convince him to accept status as a protectorate (they had a King )
Step 3. Be sure to accept their religion, and punish any colonist who does not
Step 4. Send more ships to secure the colony
Step 5. Build a settlement on each island
Step 6. Trade with the east and naval bases, with the King of the island willingly becoming a protectorate with his people respected and prospering alongside the colonists
Step 7. ???
Step 8. Profit

I essentially plan to start a new sea route from Asia to the Maldives to Abyssinia to Europe.


Maldives is actually perfect for your colonization actually: Maldives is already Muslim by this time, so no Conversions are needed. Plus, Maldives is a lot more Well Structured and Non-Tribal then all of the Places I got to Colonize :D

Sri Lanka, on the Other hand, is divided into like 6 different Kingdoms, and if you take one of them, then the other 5 might gang up on you and you might have a native rebellion on your hands (And none of them are Muslim).

My territory is actually predominantly Christian (Ethiopia=Christian since 300CE), but my religious tolerance plan will remedy that. Tolerance is in the air anyhow, as evident by the coming peace with the Safavids(Who are Muslim). As lon as I don't try to forcibly convert them, I'll be fine. Over time, the islands will probably be a diverse mix of Christians and Muslims. The structure could help with that, if the right King is ruling the islands at the time.
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Elderowa
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Postby Elderowa » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:54 pm

Aldelxane wrote:My territory at the time is actually Christian (Ethiopia=Christian since 300CE), but my religious tolerance plan will remedy that. Tolerance is in the air anyhow, as evident by the coming peace with the Safavids(Who are Muslim). As lon as I don't try to forcibly convert them, I'll be fine. Over time, the islands will probably be a diverse mix of Christians and Muslims. The structure could help with that, if the right King is ruling the islands at the time.


I see :D Then it's going to be a little bit more difficult XD

Anyways, when you get Sri Lanka, what should we trade? I've already got a lot of Spices, Ivory, Gold, Wood and Weapons (And Rice) :lol: What do you plan on Trading with me? :)

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:59 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:My territory at the time is actually Christian (Ethiopia=Christian since 300CE), but my religious tolerance plan will remedy that. Tolerance is in the air anyhow, as evident by the coming peace with the Safavids(Who are Muslim). As lon as I don't try to forcibly convert them, I'll be fine. Over time, the islands will probably be a diverse mix of Christians and Muslims. The structure could help with that, if the right King is ruling the islands at the time.


I see :D Then it's going to be a little bit more difficult XD

Anyways, when you get Sri Lanka, what should we trade? I've already got a lot of Spices, Ivory, Gold, Wood and Weapons (And Rice) :lol: What do you plan on Trading with me? :)

Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. Do you have silk, or will I have to get it exclusively from the Ilkhanate?
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:00 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
I see :D Then it's going to be a little bit more difficult XD

Anyways, when you get Sri Lanka, what should we trade? I've already got a lot of Spices, Ivory, Gold, Wood and Weapons (And Rice) :lol: What do you plan on Trading with me? :)

Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. I
Gold? Where from?

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:01 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. I
Gold? Where from?

One of the main mineral resources of Ethiopia. :)
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:02 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Gold? Where from?

One of the main mineral resources of Ethiopia. :)

Okey.

It'll make you useful; I don't imagine its a huge amount, but I think, atm, the only gold near Europe is Ethiopia, Mali, Austria and middle-east

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Postby Elderowa » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:04 pm

Aldelxane wrote:Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. I


I'd be willing to sell Silk, Weapons and Spices, but what am I gonna get from you? Slaves? XD

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:06 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. I


I'd be willing to sell Silk, Weapons and Spices, but what am I gonna get from you? Slaves? XD

No, slavery was outlawed after the war of 700 CE. I will have to think about that question.

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:09 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. I


I'd be willing to sell Silk, Weapons and Spices, but what am I gonna get from you? Slaves? XD

Wait.... Apparently the coffee bean originate in my territory. Is that as much of a jackpot to Siam as it is to Europe?

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:11 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
I'd be willing to sell Silk, Weapons and Spices, but what am I gonna get from you? Slaves? XD

Wait.... Apparently the coffee bean originate in my territory. Is that as much of a jackpot to Siam as it is to Europe?

No, doubtful. Coffee wasn't big, really, anywhere, until the big plantations of Africa and South America were founded.

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:12 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Wait.... Apparently the coffee bean originate in my territory. Is that as much of a jackpot to Siam as it is to Europe?

No, doubtful. Coffee wasn't big, really, anywhere, until the big plantations of Africa and South America were founded.

True, but I have a monopoly right now. Anyhow, what else doesn't Siam have?

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Sebtopiaris
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:13 pm

SOMEBODY POST IN THE IC DAMMIT!!!
Sebtopiaris is a culturally and ethnically Mediterranean, single-party democratic socialist state in the New Warsaw Pact with a population of 39 million Sebtopiariots. Sebtopiaris and its IC actions do not represent my personal beliefs, and Sebtopiaris's overview page does not represent much at all.

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:13 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:SOMEBODY POST IN THE IC DAMMIT!!!

I'm doing it
Aldelxane wrote:
Alleniana wrote:No, doubtful. Coffee wasn't big, really, anywhere, until the big plantations of Africa and South America were founded.

True, but I have a monopoly right now. Anyhow, what else doesn't Siam have?

Not really; it has spread to much of the middle east, but still isn't very prized

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Postby Sebtopiaris » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:14 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:SOMEBODY POST IN THE IC DAMMIT!!!

I'm doing it

With who?
Sebtopiaris is a culturally and ethnically Mediterranean, single-party democratic socialist state in the New Warsaw Pact with a population of 39 million Sebtopiariots. Sebtopiaris and its IC actions do not represent my personal beliefs, and Sebtopiaris's overview page does not represent much at all.

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Elderowa
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Postby Elderowa » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:15 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
I'd be willing to sell Silk, Weapons and Spices, but what am I gonna get from you? Slaves? XD

Wait.... Apparently the coffee bean originate in my territory. Is that as much of a jackpot to Siam as it is to Europe?


Sorry, Siam is a Tea-Toting Country. We might be able to grow them here, but I highly doubt it'll become big.

Try again :)

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:16 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
I see :D Then it's going to be a little bit more difficult XD

Anyways, when you get Sri Lanka, what should we trade? I've already got a lot of Spices, Ivory, Gold, Wood and Weapons (And Rice) :lol: What do you plan on Trading with me? :)

Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. Do you have silk, or will I have to get it exclusively from the Ilkhanate?


Properly milled silk is only from the Ilkhanate. You can buy what the Siamese have bought from my lads, but don't expect wholesale prices instead of retail. I also have plenty of cannon and steel, if you're interested in the conquest of Eastern Africa.
TG if you have questions about RP. If I don't know the answer, I know someone who does.

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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:18 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Wait.... Apparently the coffee bean originate in my territory. Is that as much of a jackpot to Siam as it is to Europe?


Sorry, Siam is a Tea-Toting Country. We might be able to grow them here, but I highly doubt it'll become big.

Try again :)

What DON'T you have, let's start with that...
Spain (harded to remember player names), I will post on the IC as soon as someone gives me an estimate for the Red Sea to the Maldives.

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:20 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Probably going to stick to the Maldives and avoid the wrath of China. I already have gold in large quantities, so silk, weaponry, and spices is probably what I'm going to want. Do you have silk, or will I have to get it exclusively from the Ilkhanate?


Properly milled silk is only from the Ilkhanate. You can buy what the Siamese have bought from my lads, but don't expect wholesale prices instead of retail. I also have plenty of cannon and steel, if you're interested in the conquest of Eastern Africa.

Cannon: Yes
I can send it directly to the Maldives, where I'm going to be building an advanced navy.
Silk: Yes, send to Europe to make a profit
Still don't know what I have and Asia doesnt however. Still need time estimate from Suakin to Maldives.

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Postby Elderowa » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:22 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
Sorry, Siam is a Tea-Toting Country. We might be able to grow them here, but I highly doubt it'll become big.

Try again :)

What DON'T you have, let's start with that...


We Import a lot of Coal and Paper from China, and during hard times we also import Rice from China (But we have a lot of rice ourselves), we don't get a lot of Jade. We don't have Honey, so maybe you can give us some Honey?

And of course, we are always accepting slaves :D

Then again, Sri Lanka is being taken over by China, so we might not even get to open Trade relations.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:22 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Alleniana wrote:I'm doing it

With who?

I'm posting about HRE stuff

Silk? Pah, wool is where it's at. :p

I'm actually fairly self sufficient, I think; no pressing needs. When the time comes for global war, I'll be well prepared.

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Postby Aldelxane » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:27 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:What DON'T you have, let's start with that...


We Import a lot of Coal and Paper from China, and during hard times we also import Rice from China (But we have a lot of rice ourselves), we don't get a lot of Jade. We don't have Honey, so maybe you can give us some Honey?

And of course, we are always accepting slaves :D

Then again, Sri Lanka is being taken over by China, so we might not even get to open Trade relations.

Apparently I am the only owner of the Y species of honey bee. Also apparently, we make wine out of honey, so I'd say that's a yes to honey. Sri Lanka is not necessary, the Maldives are actually in a better position to transport stuff to you.
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:27 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
We Import a lot of Coal and Paper from China, and during hard times we also import Rice from China (But we have a lot of rice ourselves), we don't get a lot of Jade. We don't have Honey, so maybe you can give us some Honey?

And of course, we are always accepting slaves :D

Then again, Sri Lanka is being taken over by China, so we might not even get to open Trade relations.

Apparently I am the only owner of the Y species of honey bee. Also apparently, we make wine out of honey, so I'd say that's a yes to honey.

mead?

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Postby Sebtopiaris » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:28 pm

I've just founded a Spanish settlement on the Cape Peninsula, South Africa. All of South Africa will soon be mine!
*laughs evilly*
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Sebtopiaris is a culturally and ethnically Mediterranean, single-party democratic socialist state in the New Warsaw Pact with a population of 39 million Sebtopiariots. Sebtopiaris and its IC actions do not represent my personal beliefs, and Sebtopiaris's overview page does not represent much at all.

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:28 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Properly milled silk is only from the Ilkhanate. You can buy what the Siamese have bought from my lads, but don't expect wholesale prices instead of retail. I also have plenty of cannon and steel, if you're interested in the conquest of Eastern Africa.

Cannon: Yes
I can send it directly to the Maldives, where I'm going to be building an advanced navy.
Silk: Yes, send to Europe to make a profit
Still don't know what I have and Asia doesnt however. Still need time estimate from Suakin to Maldives.


Given the winter monsoon winds, you can do it in about three weeks. The trick is that if you try to get back without waiting for the change of the seasonal vortexes you're facing abysmal headwind and a serious threat of shipwreck/a three month journey.

You wouldn't happen to have silver, would you? The Ilkhanate would love more silver, and copper. Coke would also be quite valuable to our indigenous steel industries, as more is always in demand.
TG if you have questions about RP. If I don't know the answer, I know someone who does.

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