Beyond the Atlantic - Alt History 1500 AD RP - OOC/R.I.P

[The Nation of Hay]

Much ignore. Such sad. Wow.

Where are you locat?

France

[Marsisian]

Where are you locat?

France

You are my enemy! England shall crush you!

[The Nation of Hay]

France

You are my enemy! England shall crush you!

[sing]Why can't we be friends?[/sing]

[Elderowa]

Who says they still don't live there?

Anyway, that's fine, but colonizing all Australia? See you in a few centuries.

What are your Indies possessions?

I'm going to be realistic: It will take years to Stabilize Colonies, years to stop Natives from attacking, and Years to Completely Colonies the Islands I own. But I'm going to do it

I own: Most of Borneo (Excluding the North East Coast that Persia claims is a Tributary, has 1 Siamese Colony on it), Sulawesi (1 Siamese Colony on it), Bali (No Colony), Tennggara (No Colony), Timor (No Colony) and all of New Guinea (1 Siamese Colony On It). I also have 1 Colony on Australia and 1 Colony on The Philippines.

[Alleniana]

You are my enemy! England shall crush you!

[sing]Why can't we be friends?[/sing]

friend mah plz

I am thinking, for military doctrine:
Block-Lines of pikemen, with gaps in between
Arquebusiers filling the gaps
artillery & crossbows behind
Swordsmen scattered throughout the arquebusiers

The arquebusiers come out in lines in front of the pikes, and the fire. Should they come under melee attack, they run back into the gaps, and the swordsmen hop to the front, so that the pikes' flanks are protected, since a hard formation of infantry has to turn to attack their flanks them, if they don't, then poof, swordsmen and arquebuses at close range. If its a mobile unit, then the swordsmen move forward and slash at them, hopefully the square formation of the pikes keeping them solid.

If not under melee attack, the arquebusiers fire away, blasting at the enemies. Under attack, into the holes you go, swordsmen scab up the gaps.

Should the pikeman line begin to advance wobblylylyly, then the swordsmen move forwards and fill the gap, with arquebusiers providing what support they can.

Cavalry on the flanks; trained to be very fast. If the enemy attacks the centre infantries, then they rush forwards and outflank their asses. If the centre begins to fail, even, pitch in the cav, smack them up.

To advance, all move in tandem.

Crossbowmen, meanwhile, just fire bolt after bolt over their heads to annoy the enemy and tire them. If needed, the can press up against the back of arquebusiers/pikemen to be able to fire better.

All troops armed with dagger, at least.

Thoughts?

Who says they still don't live there?

Anyway, that's fine, but colonizing all Australia? See you in a few centuries.

What are your Indies possessions?

I'm going to be realistic: It will take years to Stabilize Colonies, years to stop Natives from attacking, and Years to Completely Colonies the Islands I own. But I'm going to do it

I own: Most of Borneo (Excluding the North East Coast that Persia claims is a Tributary, has 1 Siamese Colony on it), Sulawesi (1 Siamese Colony on it), Bali (No Colony), Tennggara (No Colony), Timor (No Colony) and all of New Guinea (1 Siamese Colony On It). I also have 1 Colony on Australia and 1 Colony on The Philippines.

How can you own them without colonies?

[Elderowa]

How can you own them without colonies?

The Same way England Owned Australia or the original 13 colonies just by saying they did I knew the land existed, discussed it with Persia, and he let me own all that in Indonesia

[The Nation of Hay]

Es bueno.

[Alleniana]

How can you own them without colonies?

The Same way England Owned Australia or the original 13 colonies just by saying they did I knew the land existed, discussed it with Persia, and he let me own all that in Indonesia

That was a country with force projection; if they had really needed to, they could easily have advanced to the centre of Australia.

Thing is, claiming islands without having any presence on them, while the natives there don't even know about it, and while you may not even have the power to defeat thm, is another thing

Es bueno.

[Marsisian]

You are my enemy! England shall crush you!

[sing]Why can't we be friends?[/sing]

Okay, fine. England and France, best buddies forever!

[Aldelxane]

Is a month a good estimate for Suakin to Maldives in dhows?

[Elderowa]

The Same way England Owned Australia or the original 13 colonies just by saying they did I knew the land existed, discussed it with Persia, and he let me own all that in Indonesia

That was a country with force projection; if they had really needed to, they could easily have advanced to the centre of Australia.

Thing is, claiming islands without having any presence on them, while the natives there don't even know about it, and while you may not even have the power to defeat thm, is another thing

How many times do I need to say "Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the World" before people realize that in this AR RP, Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the world?

The Natives are fine, I can easily fight them off.

[Alleniana]

That was a country with force projection; if they had really needed to, they could easily have advanced to the centre of Australia.

Thing is, claiming islands without having any presence on them, while the natives there don't even know about it, and while you may not even have the power to defeat thm, is another thing

How many times do I need to say "Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the World" before people realize that in this AR RP, Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the world?

The Natives are fine, I can easily fight them off.

Not enough.

Show me your iron mines. Explain to me your steelworking techniques. Source me your saltpetre. Materialize your sulfur.

And also tell me why having good guns automatically means having the force projection of 19th century Britain.

[Aldelxane]

That was a country with force projection; if they had really needed to, they could easily have advanced to the centre of Australia.

Thing is, claiming islands without having any presence on them, while the natives there don't even know about it, and while you may not even have the power to defeat thm, is another thing

How many times do I need to say "Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the World" before people realize that in this AR RP, Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the world?

The Natives are fine, I can easily fight them off.

Luckily for me, the Maldives is a small island chain of "hospitable" natives, who I can easily incorporate into my Kingdom peacefully if I play my cards right. Again, I need an estimate of the time it takes to sail from the Red Sea to the Maldives.

[Alleniana]

How many times do I need to say "Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the World" before people realize that in this AR RP, Siam has some of the Best Muskets/Arquebus's in the world?

The Natives are fine, I can easily fight them off.

Luckily for me, the Maldives is a small island chain of "hospitable" natives, who I can easily incorporate into my Kingdom peacefully if I play my cards right. Again, I need an estimate of the time it takes to sail from the Red Sea to the Maldives.

Perhaps, but you'll have a hard time controlling them, I imagine.

Gimme some of their spices will ya?

[Sebtopiaris]

Luckily for me, the Maldives is a small island chain of "hospitable" natives, who I can easily incorporate into my Kingdom peacefully if I play my cards right. Again, I need an estimate of the time it takes to sail from the Red Sea to the Maldives.

Perhaps, but you'll have a hard time controlling them, I imagine.

Gimme some of their spices will ya?

I may not have spices, but I can give you something equally delicious.
*hands tapas*

[Alleniana]

Perhaps, but you'll have a hard time controlling them, I imagine.

Gimme some of their spices will ya?

I may not have spices, but I can give you something equally delicious.
*hands tapas*

*noms*

[Sebtopiaris]

I may not have spices, but I can give you something equally delicious.
*hands tapas*

*noms*

Yay for Spain!

[Aldelxane]

Luckily for me, the Maldives is a small island chain of "hospitable" natives, who I can easily incorporate into my Kingdom peacefully if I play my cards right. Again, I need an estimate of the time it takes to sail from the Red Sea to the Maldives.

Perhaps, but you'll have a hard time controlling them, I imagine.

Gimme some of their spices will ya?

Ok. Here's my plan by the way:

Step 1. Land on an island and establish a settlement
Step 2. Convince the King of the Maldives that he needs my protection, and convince him to accept status as a protectorate (they had a King )
Step 3. Be sure to accept their religion, and punish any colonist who does not
Step 4. Send more ships to secure the colony
Step 5. Build a settlement on each island
Step 6. Trade with the east and construct aval bases, with the King of the island willingly becoming a protectorate with his people respected and prospering alongside the colonists
Step 7. ???
Step 8. Profit

I essentially plan to start a new sea route from Asia to the Maldives to Abyssinia to Europe, while letting the islanders do their own thing while I do mine, in return for my protection from other less benevolent powers.

[Alleniana]

Perhaps, but you'll have a hard time controlling them, I imagine.

Gimme some of their spices will ya?

Ok. Here's my plan by the way:

Step 1. Land on an island and establish a settlement
Step 2. Convince the King of the Maldives that he needs my protection, and convince him to accept status as a protectorate (they had a King )
Step 3. Be sure to accept their religion, and punish any colonist who does not
Step 4. Send more ships to secure the colony
Step 5. Build a settlement on each island
Step 6. Trade with the east and naval bases, with the King of the island willingly becoming a protectorate with his people respected and prospering alongside the colonists
Step 7. ???
Step 8. Profit

I essentially plan to start a new sea route from Asia to the Maldives to Abyssinia to Europe.

Hmm, works, though if the king gets pissy, you're kinda screwed.

That's not a new route, that's just the ancient one that the Aksumites, the Somalis, the Swahilis, etc. plied for thousands of years, until the Portuguese and Spanush mucked it up

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

*noms*

Yay for Spain!

You understand Cape Coast is in West Africa, not South Africa, right?

[Sebtopiaris]

Yay for Spain!

You understand Cape Coast is in West Africa, not South Africa, right?

Aww crap. I meant the Cape peninsula.

[Aldelxane]

Ok. Here's my plan by the way:

Step 1. Land on an island and establish a settlement
Step 2. Convince the King of the Maldives that he needs my protection, and convince him to accept status as a protectorate (they had a King )
Step 3. Be sure to accept their religion, and punish any colonist who does not
Step 4. Send more ships to secure the colony
Step 5. Build a settlement on each island
Step 6. Trade with the east and naval bases, with the King of the island willingly becoming a protectorate with his people respected and prospering alongside the colonists
Step 7. ???
Step 8. Profit

I essentially plan to start a new sea route from Asia to the Maldives to Abyssinia to Europe.

Hmm, works, though if the king gets pissy, you're kinda screwed.

That's not a new route, that's just the ancient one that the Aksumites, the Somalis, the Swahilis, etc. plied for thousands of years, until the Portuguese and Spanush mucked it up

I know. However in this AH, the former war with the Safavids mucked it up. I didn't think the route intersected with the Maldives though. Anyhow, your right, it's more of me reforming the old link with Asia. Since the King is an NPC, and nobody has decided on his personality, I can say he is a relatively weak King and bends to my demands.

[Alleniana]

Hmm, works, though if the king gets pissy, you're kinda screwed.

That's not a new route, that's just the ancient one that the Aksumites, the Somalis, the Swahilis, etc. plied for thousands of years, until the Portuguese and Spanush mucked it up

I know. However in this AH, the former war with the Safavids mucked it up. I didn't think intersected with the Maldives though. Since the King is an NPC, and nobody has decided on his personality, I can say he is a relatively weak King and bends to my demands.

The Swahilis were formed from Persian & Arabian immigrants intermixing with the Bantus, so I'd imagine that might be going on. Small scale perhaps.

[Aldelxane]

I know. However in this AH, the former war with the Safavids mucked it up. I didn't think intersected with the Maldives though. Since the King is an NPC, and nobody has decided on his personality, I can say he is a relatively weak King and bends to my demands.

The Swahilis were formed from Persian & Arabian immigrants intermixing with the Bantus, so I'd imagine that might be going on. Small scale perhaps.

Yeah, but they don't really have a strong government to organize it right now, so I will soon eclipse them.

[Alleniana]

The Swahilis were formed from Persian & Arabian immigrants intermixing with the Bantus, so I'd imagine that might be going on. Small scale perhaps.

Yeah, but they don't really have a strong government to organize it right now, so I will soon eclipse them.

True indeed.