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Should we Reboot?

Poll ended at Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:07 pm

1. Yes a complete reboot.
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2. Keep the land claims but start new threads.
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3. No we shouldn't reboot at all.
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Total votes : 11

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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:28 am

UnitedEastEurope wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:But that still doesn't explain how the oil got from there to the ships considering he had no bases. You need fleet basing rights to do that, which you don't have.

True and you'd need more oil to fuel your nation and to fuel the war. And I know you nation don't drive cars but your people still have electricity don't they and I know it's not all produced by coal.

Yes, the other half comes from Dams. I don't think Anyone is burning oil for electricity in wartimes.
Submarines can be easily refilled with fuel at sea.

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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:30 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:You have done the majority, and realistically, an alliance vs one nation usually ends in that one nation getting steam rolled, especially it's colonies in a land distant from where it's populations centres are.

Really? You guys clearly can't see when you godmod. I started out nicely, Launching attacks and letting you decide the casulties. You people started Invading half countries in single posts. And guess what, The wars you fight are Overseas aswell.
You are unrealistic too. You have been fighting wars all RP and you expect economic miracles in the back yard.

We didn't do time travel. The agents destroyed the facility after some of the rockets were launched.

I for one certainly haven't.
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:30 am

Now I shall dwell into the RP and copy paste the evidence of your epic godmod.
True UKSN, but Japan and france did excessivly.

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Postby UnitedEastEurope » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:32 am

Harkback Union wrote:Now I shall dwell into the RP and copy paste the evidence of your epic godmod.
True UKSN, but Japan and france did excessivly.

I will admit I felt I have to, I get caught up in it. I will give back Tanzania and 3/4s of Sudan to continue fighting. More?
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:33 am

Harkback Union wrote:
UnitedEastEurope wrote:True and you'd need more oil to fuel your nation and to fuel the war. And I know you nation don't drive cars but your people still have electricity don't they and I know it's not all produced by coal.

Yes, the other half comes from Dams. I don't think Anyone is burning oil for electricity in wartimes.
Submarines can be easily refilled with fuel at sea.

Um not easily: Germany used specialized submarines (so-called milk-cows) to supply hunter U-boats in the Atlantic during World War II. However, these were relatively ponderous, required both submarines to be stationary on the surface, took a long time to transfer stores, and needed to be in radio contact with the replenished boat, all conspiring to make them rather easy targets. Due to this, those not sunk were soon retired from their supply role. (Source, Wikipedia)
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:38 am

BTW guys In the quad alliance check your TGs. I sent you link to the alliance's thread.
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Postby UnitedEastEurope » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:40 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:BTW guys In the quad alliance check your TGs. I sent you link to the alliance's thread.

I went their I will post some then soon
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:41 am

UnitedEastEurope wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:BTW guys In the quad alliance check your TGs. I sent you link to the alliance's thread.

I went their I will post some then soon

Did you see the topic of discussion? That's what we will talk about.
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Postby UnitedEastEurope » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:42 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:
UnitedEastEurope wrote:I went their I will post some then soon

Did you see the topic of discussion? That's what we will talk about.

Yea, I did.
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:02 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:Yes, the other half comes from Dams. I don't think Anyone is burning oil for electricity in wartimes.
Submarines can be easily refilled with fuel at sea.

Um not easily: Germany used specialized submarines (so-called milk-cows) to supply hunter U-boats in the Atlantic during World War II. However, these were relatively ponderous, required both submarines to be stationary on the surface, took a long time to transfer stores, and needed to be in radio contact with the replenished boat, all conspiring to make them rather easy targets. Due to this, those not sunk were soon retired from their supply role. (Source, Wikipedia)


Too bad the alliance never sent ships to scout East coast america for refueling stations... Of wait, they were sunk before they could get there.

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Postby UnitedEastEurope » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:04 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:Um not easily: Germany used specialized submarines (so-called milk-cows) to supply hunter U-boats in the Atlantic during World War II. However, these were relatively ponderous, required both submarines to be stationary on the surface, took a long time to transfer stores, and needed to be in radio contact with the replenished boat, all conspiring to make them rather easy targets. Due to this, those not sunk were soon retired from their supply role. (Source, Wikipedia)


Too bad the alliance never sent ships to scout East coast america for refueling stations... Of wait, they were sunk before they could get there.

I don't think America would allow this in fears of being drug into the war.
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:28 am

Pre-WW2.

exhibit a -
My post:
"Unidentified Submarines launch surprise attacks on Japanese War and supply ships across the globe... There are a total of 7 attacks, each involving 5 submarines attacking the fleets and supply convoys simultaneously. The submarines 6 torpedoes each before retreating into the depths..."


Reply:
"These unknown assailants are quickly defeated by the IJN, which is the world's strongest fleet. The aircraft and destroyers immediately defeat and kill most of these assailants."

After explaining the attackers are submarines:

"The IJA continues its advance into Canada, where the outnumbered Canadians are in retreat, the IJN has invented an effective way of finding submarines, the IJ scientists discover radar. The use this to locate submarines and many of these submarines are soon destroyed by the IJN."


Which makes little sense. Even sonar has a hard time finding subs, and since they attack in groups... but never mind.

During WW2:

exhibit b - RP ing my people.

The Indians are also in rage, the indian units are revolting against the British and their offensive collapses, the Indians are in an uproar as New Delhi and Bombay fall to rebel Indians. The IJA actually had a large industry back in japan so while their economy weakens, it manages to survive. The Chinese are calmed down by Emperor Puyi of China, who has negotiated with Japan for Chinese independence. The rebels soon disperse. While Hong Kong falls after nearly 100,000 IJA troopers storm the city. Singapore meets the same fate, as the IJA forces overrun the city. The IJA has suffered more losses but still has a large army, they cut off the British in China by taking over all of Burma. The IJA is now fighting in Bangladesh. The IJN is far too big for the submarines to cripple, the IJN fleets manage to defeat the RN Submarines after taking some losses.

London is a warzone as British rebels fight the Royal Army.


Why would any of this happen?!? From the commonwealth's and Oceania's point, we are the good guys. You declared war on for no reason.
Of course, when my propaganda is deployed, its either ignored... or If I tell what happened, I GMOD[/box]
exhibit C - Lack of realism.

Quad alliance members: Countless Expensive wars against faraway countries, Despite ongoing economic depression. After wasting their resources on ships and guns, they still claim to have the upper hand over the...
Commonwealth Alliance: No wars, No losses. Peaceful growth of economy and influence.

Despite this, Quad alliance still expects to win on both land and sea. Seriously?

exhibit D - Seriously?!?

[box]The French troops in Pakistan were advancing very well. British troops were unprepared for the massive scale, and put up little resistance. They entered Islamabad soon, but British troops were dug in very well. In response, the FFL surrounded the city and began the Siege of Islamabad.


Where would there be British troops there to begin with? Pakistan has its own army, and they will shoot back at you. India aint far away and can send significant help.

Within 1 month, IJA forces have totally overrun Malaysia, the last remaining British stronghold is at Singapore, which is heavily besieged by nearly 150,000 troops. The IJN is bombarding the city day and night. The IJAF also bombs the city. The city has lost its water supply and its defenders are running out of water.

Burma

The IJA armies are smashing through the British defenses, the IJA has reached the Burma capital and has put it to siege. The other IJA armies are advancing deeper into Burma as the British flee into India. The IJN is rallying near a secret location to attack the RN soon. The Japanese allied armies are nearing 4 million.


Same. And our subs were lurking around Japan. I don't see how your ships are getting past them so easily.

These all come before exhibit E -

"Tibet has annexed Nepal, the IJA has reported they cannot go past Bangladesh because the IJA will take far more losses then. Instead they will hold the line and hold the French and Aussies mop up the GB remnants. The IJN and IJA has overrun Hong Kong, tens of thousands of GB troops are captured. The IJA is now concentrating on Canada, the IJA forces numbering some 500,000 attack Ontario which is barely defended by the surviving Canadian armies. Breakthrough is excepted in 2 weeks."


So, Japan, Doesn't only have the strongest navy, It also kicks ass on land... on 3 fronts. And their transports aren't affected by the torpedoes we launch.
But wait, what am I talking about?!?

exhibit F -

"The IJN has defeated the UK's submarine fleets now, the submarine fleets in the pacific are crippled. The British manufacturing abilities are gone world-wide due to lack of resources. The UK submarine fleet starves out as they have no way to refuel in the pacific, most submarines surrender to the IJN. Which now has far more ships and subs than the UK's fleets."


So it seems, the Japanese navy is not only able to besiege cities protected with minefields and airforce, they can also afford to provide escorts for every freighter and hunt down an armada oceanian submarines... all at the same time! But of course, the inferior armada of British submarines is no match for the... Well, the thing they use to combat an armada of submarines, lancing attacks at night and diving into the depths at day.

Will fix grammar later.
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:15 am

UnitedEastEurope wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
Too bad the alliance never sent ships to scout East coast america for refueling stations... Of wait, they were sunk before they could get there.

I don't think America would allow this in fears of being drug into the war.

I don't think America even knows about it.
Or any of you, for that matter...

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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:29 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:Um not easily: Germany used specialized submarines (so-called milk-cows) to supply hunter U-boats in the Atlantic during World War II. However, these were relatively ponderous, required both submarines to be stationary on the surface, took a long time to transfer stores, and needed to be in radio contact with the replenished boat, all conspiring to make them rather easy targets. Due to this, those not sunk were soon retired from their supply role. (Source, Wikipedia)


Too bad the alliance never sent ships to scout East coast america for refueling stations... Of wait, they were sunk before they could get there.

You realise that you would require fleet basing rights, something you don't have.
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:34 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
Too bad the alliance never sent ships to scout East coast america for refueling stations... Of wait, they were sunk before they could get there.

You realise that you would require fleet basing rights, something you don't have.

What for? an oil company?

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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:32 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:You realise that you would require fleet basing rights, something you don't have.

What for? an oil company?

To be able to refuel there.
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:51 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:What for? an oil company?

To be able to refuel there.

But They can refuel at sea.

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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:43 am

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Reddogkeno101 wrote:To be able to refuel there.

But They can refuel at sea.

No, subs can't refuel at sea yet, I don't believe
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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:49 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:To be able to refuel there.

But They can refuel at sea.

Plus they wouldn't have oil, so they need refilling quickly.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:47 am

Hi. I may sign up. Any nations you want or nations that need a new player becausr the old one G-Modding.

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Postby UnitedEastEurope » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:04 am

The Time Alliance wrote:Hi. I may sign up. Any nations you want or nations that need a new player becausr the old one G-Modding.

Yea I think there a few openings. And hark you never answered me.
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Postby UnitedEastEurope » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:13 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:To be able to refuel there.

But They can refuel at sea.

Ok but where do you actually get the oil if America doesn't even know about it?
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Postby Kratu » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:19 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:Hi. I may sign up. Any nations you want or nations that need a new player becausr the old one G-Modding.


You could be anything but these nations the ones without a name are just my Laziness but they are taken.


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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:41 pm

I'm on the side of Harkback on this one, I theorize the OP has done nothing because he is in the Quad alliance and the Gmod benefits him. But hey it's just a theory.
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Postby Kratu » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:43 pm

Valrifell wrote:I'm on the side of Harkback on this one, I theorize the OP has done nothing because he is in the Quad alliance and the Gmod benefits him. But hey it's just a theory.
A GAME THEORY!


I have done nothing because there are no benefits to me to intervening in the war but me and Poland might turn East if they want to...
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