American Civil War [Reboot/ Open Sign Up]

[Roski]

By the way, a F/A-18 is not a drone.

By the way, the F/A-18 Super Hornet, like most other aircraft, are machines, and can be controlled remotely, as long as the Command-And-Control centre is operational

[Burmaland]

NS Name: Burmaland
Nation Name: France
Capital City: Paris
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Napoleon IV
Head of Government (if different):
Claimed Nation: France
Population: (Please use the forecast population...)66 million
Military Size:230,000 active 98,000 reserve
National Flag: (Put in a spoiler or link it)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg
Any specific goal(s): (if applicable)
Link to Wikipedia page for your nation:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France
Link to Wikipedia page for your nation's military:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_military
RP Example:

Either help Germany or leave me alone pls

Only if you don't threaten us or my allies

[Hobbesistan]

I did, its a rather crappy post and details very little about what exactly is happening.

I still and holding my opinion that the NNEMP is void.

It said the plane was to go into London, but if it got shot down the EMPS would go off, making it impossible to counter.
Then, I said I would invade with COMMS destroyed. It had lots of countermeasures.

Then they fired 5 missiles that don't care about counter measures, and it blows up over the part of the English channel I am going towards.

The Royal Navy can't call for help, and Suddenly the New German Navy is upon them. Pretty simple

#1 F/A-18 is not a drone; even if you rigged it to be controlled remotely, it would be far from reliable.

#2 CHAMPS - the only existing system like this, is designed for a cruise missile, not a jet.

#3 As I said, you are talking of less than a mile in COMMS damage - particulary with sattelites, the damage would be minimal.

#4 If it gets shot down, the missiles stop working, that's not how they work.

#5 I am still questioning your ability to pull a brand new navy out of your arse in two under-par posts.

[Roski]

They won't have the missiles themselves? But plans anyone? Like I took my supercarrier design from the GIGN HQ

Why would you keep plans for such weapons in offshore base instead of in a secure server?

Ramstein = American servers

[Roski]

Either help Germany or leave me alone pls

Only if you don't threaten us or my allies

Well Im invading Britain

[Hobbesistan]

Why would you keep plans for such weapons in offshore base instead of in a secure server?

Ramstein = American servers

Ramstein = American Air Force operations servers, You're not going to find plans to make a dam aircraft carrier in there...

[Great Nepal]

It said the plane was to go into London, but if it got shot down the EMPS would go off, making it impossible to counter.
Then, I said I would invade with COMMS destroyed. It had lots of countermeasures.
Then they fired 5 missiles that don't care about counter measures, and it blows up over the part of the English channel I am going towards.
The Royal Navy can't call for help, and Suddenly the New German Navy is upon them. Pretty simple

Except it can.
NNEMP is highly experimental; you would end up damaging few communications and destroying few more. 2 missiles, fourteen targets at most minus subs. And, if London sees that an explosion happened over English Channel and their ships are now unresponsive, that is pretty massive red flag to send help.

[Roski]

It said the plane was to go into London, but if it got shot down the EMPS would go off, making it impossible to counter.
Then, I said I would invade with COMMS destroyed. It had lots of countermeasures.

Then they fired 5 missiles that don't care about counter measures, and it blows up over the part of the English channel I am going towards.

The Royal Navy can't call for help, and Suddenly the New German Navy is upon them. Pretty simple

#1 F/A-18 is not a drone; even if you rigged it to be controlled remotely, it would be far from reliable.

#2 CHAMPS - the only existing system like this, is designed for a cruise missile, not a jet.

#3 As I said, you are talking of less than a mile in COMMS damage - particulary with sattelites, the damage would be minimal.

#4 If it gets shot down, the missiles stop working, that's not how they work.

#5 I am still questioning your ability to pull a brand new navy out of your arse in two under-par posts.

1: Its 2030
2: Its 2030
3: Yes, I know
4: It's designed to work like that
6: I've been building a navy since before my budget. So, two posts suddenly turn to five. I still don't have my supercarrier, now three posts later

[Roski]

It said the plane was to go into London, but if it got shot down the EMPS would go off, making it impossible to counter.
Then, I said I would invade with COMMS destroyed. It had lots of countermeasures.
Then they fired 5 missiles that don't care about counter measures, and it blows up over the part of the English channel I am going towards.
The Royal Navy can't call for help, and Suddenly the New German Navy is upon them. Pretty simple

Except it can.
NNEMP is highly experimental; you would end up damaging few communications and destroying few more. 2 missiles, fourteen targets at most minus subs. And, if London sees that an explosion happened over English Channel and their ships are now unresponsive, that is pretty massive red flag to send help.

1: They aren't calling for help if something is inferred
2: I'm not aiming for boats, I was aiming for London, but around 1.009 square miles have been empd
3: They shot down an aircraft, that's the only explosion you see.

[Roski]

Ramstein = American servers

Ramstein = American Air Force operations servers, You're not going to find plans to make a dam aircraft carrier in there...

GIGN HQ is the Aircraft carrier, keep up mate

[Hobbesistan]

#1 F/A-18 is not a drone; even if you rigged it to be controlled remotely, it would be far from reliable.

#2 CHAMPS - the only existing system like this, is designed for a cruise missile, not a jet.

#3 As I said, you are talking of less than a mile in COMMS damage - particulary with sattelites, the damage would be minimal.

#4 If it gets shot down, the missiles stop working, that's not how they work.

#5 I am still questioning your ability to pull a brand new navy out of your arse in two under-par posts.

1: Its 2030
2: Its 2030
3: Yes, I know
4: It's designed to work like that
6: I've been building a navy since before my budget. So, two posts suddenly turn to five. I still don't have my supercarrier, now three posts later

1: 2030 is 16 years away, not 160. These things are extremely experimental.
2: ^
3: Glad we cleared that up
4:

There was no explosion and no flying shrapnel. There was only the sound of the missile’s engine as it flew overhead and the sputtering of sophisticated computers crashing as they were hit by a beam of high-energy microwaves.

http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-champ-missile-test/24658/
CHAMP, and simular systems, works by doing a flyby and emitting high energy microwaves, not crashing and spontanious blackout. Do your research before posting your 2 cents of BS please.

[Alouite]

Keep in mind that the UK has nukes and Germany does not guys, so any German attempt at invading the UK would be suicidal.

[Roski]

1: Its 2030
2: Its 2030
3: Yes, I know
4: It's designed to work like that
6: I've been building a navy since before my budget. So, two posts suddenly turn to five. I still don't have my supercarrier, now three posts later

1: 2030 is 16 years away, not 160. These things are extremely experimental.
2: ^
3: Glad we cleared that up
4:

There was no explosion and no flying shrapnel. There was only the sound of the missile’s engine as it flew overhead and the sputtering of sophisticated computers crashing as they were hit by a beam of high-energy microwaves.

http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-champ-missile-test/24658/
CHAMP, and simular systems, works by doing a flyby and emitting high energy microwaves, not crashing and spontanious blackout. Do your research before posting your 2 cents of BS please.

1: 16 years is a lot for modern technology, we developed a nuclear bomb in less than a year
2: Then I just fucked up half of Europe. And again, ITS DESIGNED TO ACT LIKE WHAT I PUT IT AS. You act like this is impossible, but if the UNITED STATES stopped spending so much bullshit money, and work on RandD, The United States could have Directed Energy Beam small arms in 2030. Now that that is clear, ITS THE ONLY KNOW PROJECT. I was told to be creative, but by doing so, and doing things that are possible now, I'm that instant god modder

[Roski]

Keep in mind that the UK has nukes and Germany does not guys, so any German attempt at invading the UK would be suicidal.

Nuclear weapons are ineffective in the RP

[Great Nepal]

1: They aren't calling for help if something is inferred
2: I'm not aiming for boats, I was aiming for London, but around 1.009 square miles have been empd
3: They shot down an aircraft, that's the only explosion you see.

1 & 3. Lets look at the logical sequence:

Hostile, non-responsive aircraft is detected.
Permission is given to engage the hostile aircraft.
There is no reply from the ships that were to engage the hostile aircraft.
Next obvious step: Send in larger number of ships to investigate.

2. 1 sq miles, sure but then nearby boat would just call for help.
4. This isn't scifi. It is MT, with rare exceptions made for technology already in development. You can not completely redesign how EMP works and how missiles work.

[Alouite]

Keep in mind that the UK has nukes and Germany does not guys, so any German attempt at invading the UK would be suicidal.

Nuclear weapons are ineffective in the RP

Thats unrealistic. But I can see why, regardless the UK has more war tech then the Germans in general.

[Roski]

1: They aren't calling for help if something is inferred
2: I'm not aiming for boats, I was aiming for London, but around 1.009 square miles have been empd
3: They shot down an aircraft, that's the only explosion you see.

1 & 3. Lets look at the logical sequence:

Hostile, non-responsive aircraft is detected.
Permission is given to engage the hostile aircraft.
There is no reply from the ships that were to engage the hostile aircraft.
Next obvious step: Send in larger number of ships to investigate.

2. 1 sq miles, sure but then nearby boat would just call for help.
4. This isn't scifi. It is MT, with rare exceptions made for technology already in development. You can not completely redesign how EMP works and how missiles work.

Please, shoot down a nuclear weapon, and see what happens. We also don't know what half of Europe is doing, and EMPS are not at all impossible in the sense that I put it.

[Roski]

Nuclear weapons are ineffective in the RP

Thats unrealistic. But I can see why, regardless the UK has more war tech then the Germans in general.

Germany built up its war tech in Response to Britain supporting dictatorial America

[Hobbesistan]

1: 16 years is a lot for modern technology, we developed a nuclear bomb in less than a year
2: Then I just fucked up half of Europe. And again, ITS DESIGNED TO ACT LIKE WHAT I PUT IT AS. You act like this is impossible, but if the UNITED STATES stopped spending so much bullshit money, and work on RandD, The United States could have Directed Energy Beam small arms in 2030. Now that that is clear, ITS THE ONLY KNOW PROJECT. I was told to be creative, but by doing so, and doing things that are possible now, I'm that instant god modder

1: 'We developed the nuclear bomb in less than a year' - This is quite possibly the most bullshit statement in this entire thread. I applaud your ignorance.
The Atom was first split in 1917, and several other improvements in 1926, 1932, and 1939 led to the Manhattan Project, that took 6 years that ultimately led to the nuclear bomb.
If we count the original pre-war work, the Nuclear Bomb took 28 years to develop, not one.
2: Yes, I act like its impossible, because it is. 'Directed Energy Small arms by 2030" is the most bullshit story i've ever heard, At most developmental weaponry on ships that are extremely hard to move.

[Great Nepal]

Thats unrealistic. But I can see why, regardless the UK has more war tech then the Germans in general.

Germany built up its war tech in Response to Britain supporting dictatorial America

Development of technology to take over another nation takes decades of sustained investment. It hasn't been decades since start of RP.

Please, shoot down a nuclear weapon, and see what happens. We also don't know what half of Europe is doing,

How is this relevant at all?

and EMPS are not at all impossible in the sense that I put it.

Okay go on, how exactly do these work?

[Roski]

1: 16 years is a lot for modern technology, we developed a nuclear bomb in less than a year
2: Then I just fucked up half of Europe. And again, ITS DESIGNED TO ACT LIKE WHAT I PUT IT AS. You act like this is impossible, but if the UNITED STATES stopped spending so much bullshit money, and work on RandD, The United States could have Directed Energy Beam small arms in 2030. Now that that is clear, ITS THE ONLY KNOW PROJECT. I was told to be creative, but by doing so, and doing things that are possible now, I'm that instant god modder

1: 'We developed the nuclear bomb in less than a year' - This is quite possibly the most bullshit statement in this entire thread. I applaud your ignorance.
The Atom was first split in 1917, and several other improvements in 1926, 1932, and 1939 led to the Manhattan Project, that took 6 years that ultimately led to the nuclear bomb.
If we count the original pre-war work, the Nuclear Bomb took 28 years to develop, not one.
2: Yes, I act like its impossible, because it is. 'Directed Energy Small arms by 2030" is the most bullshit story i've ever heard, At most developmental weaponry on ships that are extremely hard to move.

Yes, the path to the bomb, in 1941, Germany discovered Nuclear fission
In 1944, america got its hands on the work
In 1945, good by Hiroshima and Nagasaki

And we already have directed energy beam weapons, just not small arms

[Hobbesistan]

1: 'We developed the nuclear bomb in less than a year' - This is quite possibly the most bullshit statement in this entire thread. I applaud your ignorance.
The Atom was first split in 1917, and several other improvements in 1926, 1932, and 1939 led to the Manhattan Project, that took 6 years that ultimately led to the nuclear bomb.
If we count the original pre-war work, the Nuclear Bomb took 28 years to develop, not one.
2: Yes, I act like its impossible, because it is. 'Directed Energy Small arms by 2030" is the most bullshit story i've ever heard, At most developmental weaponry on ships that are extremely hard to move.

Yes, the path to the bomb, in 1941, Germany discovered Nuclear fission
In 1944, america got its hands on the work
In 1945, good by Hiroshima and Nagasaki

And we already have directed energy beam weapons, just not small arms

The closest thing to a directed energy weapon we have (besides experimental DARPA stuff I know not about) is the YAL program; a Boeing 747 modified to carry a lazer, it had several few thousand gallon chemical tanks. Unless you can strap a Boeing 747 onto the back of every soldier, handheld directed energy isnt happening anytime soon.

[Roski]

Germany built up its war tech in Response to Britain supporting dictatorial America

Development of technology to take over another nation takes decades of sustained investment. It hasn't been decades since start of RP.

Please, shoot down a nuclear weapon, and see what happens. We also don't know what half of Europe is doing,

How is this relevant at all?

and EMPS are not at all impossible in the sense that I put it.

Okay go on, how exactly do these work?

Building more of what they have is not "Decades of work"
America battleships in WW2, for example

If you shoot down a Nuclear weapon, it goes BOOM

And there are three ways,
Explode on impact, Nuclear weapons do this
Constant, but not infinite
Infinite, which actually isn't infinite, but it lasts a long time, and this happens with Nuclear Fusion. In other words, stars

[Great Nepal]

Yes, the path to the bomb, in 1941, Germany discovered Nuclear fission
In 1944, america got its hands on the work
In 1945, good by Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Every historian just committed suicide.

And we already have directed energy beam weapons, just not small arms

We have directed energy weapons, which are no where near ready to be deployed (except the Boeing one). And the problem with integrating them to small arm is massive. Directed energy weapons needs a lot of energy; so unless you plan to connect your pistol to national grid; it wont work.

[Roski]

Yes, the path to the bomb, in 1941, Germany discovered Nuclear fission
In 1944, america got its hands on the work
In 1945, good by Hiroshima and Nagasaki

And we already have directed energy beam weapons, just not small arms

Yes? In just a few years of actual dedicated research, Cannons were transformed into the first known firearms.

Well, lasers don't need rifling, thats for sure
The closest thing to a directed energy weapon we have (besides experimental DARPA stuff I know not about) is the YAL program; a Boeing 747 modified to carry a lazer, it had several few thousand gallon chemical tanks. Unless you can strap a Boeing 747 onto the back of every soldier, handheld directed energy isnt happening anytime soon.

Yes? In just a few years of actual dedicated research, Cannons were transformed into the first known firearms.

Well, lasers don't need rifling, thats for sure