The War that Ends All Wars: 1913 and Beyond[OOC][OPEN]

[Basileia Hellada]

A few things in this app are amiss (a large few) and Britain's already reserved /notOP

Sorry bud I'm new to this! Who is left available?

Uh, there's a list in the OP of taken nations.. Anything else that was around in 1913, go ahead[/quote]
Agh! The 100th Post gone from my grasp. *sigh*

[Gibberan]

Can I reserve Belgium?

[Einserdvan]

Yes. Belgium reserved.

We'll give Seljuq Kyiv a little more time since I need to respect reservations.
The Netherlands are free and unhappy that nobody wants to defend them from possible German aggression

There's a dispute on who takes Sweden. The Norrland made an odd post about taking it then Miracum-Izmir showe up claiming the former Kalmar Union. How about one of you takes Norway and the other Sweden?

It's 1 AM here in *guess what country!* so we'll sort things out later.

Until then Marsisian, complete your application, take Italy and France as example.

[Marsisian]

Yes. Belgium reserved.

We'll give Seljuq Kyiv a little more time since I need to respect reservations.
The Netherlands are free and unhappy that nobody wants to defend them from possible German aggression

There's a dispute on who takes Sweden. The Norrland made an odd post about taking it then Miracum-Izmir showe up claiming the former Kalmar Union. How about one of you takes Norway and the other Sweden?

It's 1 AM here in *guess what country!* so we'll sort things out later.

Until then Marsisian, complete your application, take Italy and France as example.

Uh...I have.

[Einserdvan]

Uh...I have.

Well you forgot to put the size of the army, navy and the air force (if any).

[Marsisian]

Uh...I have.

Well you forgot to put the size of the army, navy and the air force (if any).

There was a size for the Army, but no Navy and Air Force.

[Qin]

Hmmm, there is great incentive for the Republic of China to join the Central Powers, to reclaim the chunks of Manchuria Russia took from it after the Boxer Rebellion around 30 years ago, not to mention Hong Kong. What could the Entente offer?

[Kratu]

Hmmm, there is great incentive for the Republic of China to join the Central Powers, to reclaim the chunks of Manchuria Russia took from it after the Boxer Rebellion around 30 years ago, not to mention Hong Kong. What could the Entente offer?

America could provide some naval forces to protect Chinese Interest.

[Gibberan]

Desired Nation: Kingdom of Belgium
General Info
Current Leader: King Albert I
Population: 6,136, 000 (1907)
Economy: 32,347$ GDP
Industry: 6.5
Agriculture: 8
Defense Force
Army (Level 6/10): Small, but well-equipped army, with most of our equipment coming from French (and sometimes British) arsenals. 117,000 personnel.
Navy: No Standing Navy
Air Force (Level 2.5/10): We have about 90-150 Moraine-Saulnier Model H's and some Bleriot XI's
Additional Info
British protectorate!

[Qin]

Hmmm, there is great incentive for the Republic of China to join the Central Powers, to reclaim the chunks of Manchuria Russia took from it after the Boxer Rebellion around 30 years ago, not to mention Hong Kong. What could the Entente offer?

America could provide some naval forces to protect Chinese Interest.

Protection for Merchants vs More Clay?

[Kratu]

America could provide some naval forces to protect Chinese Interest.

Protection for Merchants vs More Clay?

Sure I am thinking about joining the Central Powers anyway to lead the way for American Domination of North America as such I may go against the Entente.

[Kratu]

And China has plenty of Raw Materials.

[Neros]

Hmmm, there is great incentive for the Republic of China to join the Central Powers, to reclaim the chunks of Manchuria Russia took from it after the Boxer Rebellion around 30 years ago, not to mention Hong Kong. What could the Entente offer?

Do you really think that whichever side the Chinese end up on, you will be safe and sound from foreign encroachment? The Germans will simply take over Hong Kong or demand more trade rights, the British will gain a larger foothold in the Treaty Ports, etc., so the Great Powers have you by the balls. It's not fair by any standard, but it's Imperialism and it's a harsh reality.

Also: Boxer Rebellion was 13 years ago, Russia took Manchuria but got it's ass kicked by Japan, so you technically own it but Japan has it in it's sphere. My personal opinion: Jockey for favoritism among the foreigners and play us off of each other. Watch us destroy eachothers' legations and supply both sides with arms and such to increase your productive power. Join whichever side you know is going to win to look good in front of the international stage. You'll get diplomacy points and industrial boosts, but you'll need to watch the war as it develops so that you can switch your investors from Germany to Britain if Britannia still Rule the Waves, because that means German goods won't be able to make it to your ports due to Royal Blockade. However, an annihilation at Jutland would open the door to Prussian militarism and industrial armed goods.

You have the Entente to your south, east, north, and west. Russia, Japan, Britain (India), and French Indochina. That is another thing to look out for. If perhaps Imperialism is smashed in this war rather than in a continuing world war, then China can realize it's potential.

[Qin]

Hmmm, there is great incentive for the Republic of China to join the Central Powers, to reclaim the chunks of Manchuria Russia took from it after the Boxer Rebellion around 30 years ago, not to mention Hong Kong. What could the Entente offer?

Do you really think that whichever side the Chinese end up on, you will be safe and sound from foreign encroachment? The Germans will simply take over Hong Kong or demand more trade rights, the British will gain a larger foothold in the Treaty Ports, etc., so the Great Powers have you by the balls. It's not fair by any standard, but it's Imperialism and it's a harsh reality.

Also: Boxer Rebellion was 13 years ago, Russia took Manchuria but got it's ass kicked by Japan, so you technically own it but Japan has it in it's sphere. My personal opinion: Jockey for favoritism among the foreigners and play us off of each other. Watch us destroy eachothers' legations and supply both sides with arms and such to increase your productive power. Join whichever side you know is going to win to look good in front of the international stage. You'll get diplomacy points and industrial boosts, but you'll need to watch the war as it develops so that you can switch your investors from Germany to Britain if Britannia still Rule the Waves, because that means German goods won't be able to make it to your ports due to Royal Blockade. However, an annihilation at Jutland would open the door to Prussian militarism and industrial armed goods.

You have the Entente to your south, east, north, and west. Russia, Japan, Britain (India), and French Indochina. That is another thing to look out for. If perhaps Imperialism is smashed in this war rather than in a continuing world war, then China can realize it's potential.

I understand that it is highly risky. I had considered simply staying neutral and twiddling my thumbs. I think my response will be reactionary, depending on the flow of the war, America, Japan, and Russia's decision.

[Qin]

Also in regards to another nation taking say Hong Kong...I'd like to see them try to take a city on the other side of the world from a supposed ally, who is occupying said city, for no good justification, especially after what is considered to the the "last and greatest war".

[Neros]

Do you really think that whichever side the Chinese end up on, you will be safe and sound from foreign encroachment? The Germans will simply take over Hong Kong or demand more trade rights, the British will gain a larger foothold in the Treaty Ports, etc., so the Great Powers have you by the balls. It's not fair by any standard, but it's Imperialism and it's a harsh reality.

Also: Boxer Rebellion was 13 years ago, Russia took Manchuria but got it's ass kicked by Japan, so you technically own it but Japan has it in it's sphere. My personal opinion: Jockey for favoritism among the foreigners and play us off of each other. Watch us destroy eachothers' legations and supply both sides with arms and such to increase your productive power. Join whichever side you know is going to win to look good in front of the international stage. You'll get diplomacy points and industrial boosts, but you'll need to watch the war as it develops so that you can switch your investors from Germany to Britain if Britannia still Rule the Waves, because that means German goods won't be able to make it to your ports due to Royal Blockade. However, an annihilation at Jutland would open the door to Prussian militarism and industrial armed goods.

You have the Entente to your south, east, north, and west. Russia, Japan, Britain (India), and French Indochina. That is another thing to look out for. If perhaps Imperialism is smashed in this war rather than in a continuing world war, then China can realize it's potential.

I understand that it is highly risky. I had considered simply staying neutral and twiddling my thumbs. I think my response will be reactionary, depending on the flow of the war, America, Japan, and Russia's decision.

Understandable. You can supply both sides and try to enforce armed neutrality if at all possible.

Also in regards to another nation taking say Hong Kong...I'd like to see them try to take a city on the other side of the world from a supposed ally, who is occupying said city, for no good justification, especially after what is considered to the the "last and greatest war".

Tell that to the British Empire circa 1840. They probably don't have to take it perse, but perhaps some shrewd diplomacy ("here is some guns, weapons, machines and such") could have you "lease" it to Germany towards the war's end, you know what I mean? I see that realistically, Germany wouldn't be able to take the island from Britain (or you) forcibly, so they'll go through the proper diplomatic channels to get it if they want it that bad.

Being in that position, milk them for everything. Try and shift the balance back to the Middle Kingdom!

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Desired Nation: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
General Info
Current Leader: King George V, head of state; Prime Minister Herbert Henry Asquith, head of government
Population: Presumably 422,341,500 in Britain alone; 765,900,500 empire-wide
Economy: 224,618 in Britain alone.
Industry: 10
Agriculture: 7
Defense Force
Army (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 7
Navy (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 9
Air Force (Level 1/10): 5
Additional Info
britannia rules the waves
is allied with france, russia, japan; custodian of belgium's neutrality

[Bolovia]

[box]Desired Nation: Mexico
General Info Is in a Revolution transition, focusing on crushing opposition in the North and maintaining status qou in Morelos with Emiliano Zapata, focusing on developing oil fields and retrieving Port of Tampico from the US
Current Leader: President Gen. Victoriano Huerta
Population: 12,050,000
Economy: 6,582
Industry: 6
Agriculture: 5
Defense Force; 565,000 total
Army (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 6
Navy (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 4
Air Force (Level 1/10): 5
Additional Info
Has rocky relations with US, securing Germany as an ally, trying to open relations with Japan. Mexico also is working on obtaining foreign investment and is trying to elude US influence. Huerta is focusing on recapturing Northern provinces to end the war. Huerta is also looking for potential arms exporters to sell arms to Mexico and aid in its desire to end the devastating Civil War.

[Kratu]

[box]Desired Nation: Mexico
General Info Is in a Revolution transition, focusing on crushing opposition in the North and maintaining status qou in Morelos with Emiliano Zapata, focusing on developing oil fields and retrieving Port of Tampico from the US
Current Leader: President Gen. Victoriano Huerta
Population: 12,050,000
Economy: 6,582
Industry: 6
Agriculture: 5
Defense Force; 565,000 total
Army (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 6
Navy (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 4
Air Force (Level 1/10): 5
Additional Info
Has rocky relations with US, securing Germany as an ally, trying to open relations with Japan. Mexico also is working on obtaining foreign investment and is trying to elude US influence. Huerta is focusing on recapturing Northern provinces to end the war. Huerta is also looking for potential arms exporters to sell arms to Mexico and aid in its desire to end the devastating Civil War.

Hopefully Those rocky relation will smooth over when we both seek to join the Central Powers since both the US and Mexico seek an alliance with Germany.

[Bolovia]

Hopefully Those rocky relation will smooth over when we both seek to join the Central Powers since both the US and Mexico seek an alliance with Germany.

Hand over the Port of Tampico and we will reestablish normal relations

[Kratu]

Hopefully Those rocky relation will smooth over when we both seek to join the Central Powers since both the US and Mexico seek an alliance with Germany.

Hand over the Port of Tampico and we will reestablish normal relations

Okay I have already set my mind to the north anyway so those troops will be better used in the
North.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

OP, here's a guide for the map.

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... s-1914.png

[Schweinehund]

The British Isles had 400 million people? Really? That's what I can see in Seljuq's application. Several of those need rework, try to make it as the application for France!
Also annexing conquered nations would certainly not be possible for long amounts of time. In the real WW1, the defeated countries were forced to divide, obey rules, give money to the winners, in worst cases becoming puppet-states.

[Einserdvan]

@Seljuq Kyiv: Population of the British Isles in 1911 was 45,370,530. So you should stick to 45.4 million in 1913.

Defense Force
Army (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 7
Navy (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 9
Air Force (Level 1/10): 5

Why do so few actually get they should put the level in between the parenthesis like:

Defense Force
Army (Level 7/10):
Navy (Level 9/10):
Air Force (Level 2/10):

Also all Air Forces start at Level 1/10, maybe we'll give Germany, France and Britain a 2.

@Bolovia: You should also write the number of aircraft owned and the size of the Mexican Navy.

The aircraft were very few as the Mexican Air Force was just founded just a month before the date we'll start the RP on (August 11, 1913) so just put 1-10 crafts.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

@Seljuq Kyiv: Population of the British Isles in 1911 was 45,370,530. So you should stick to 45.4 million in 1913.

Defense Force
Army (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 7
Navy (Level LEVEL_GOES_HERE/10): 9
Air Force (Level 1/10): 5

Why do so few actually get they should put the level in between the parenthesis like:

Defense Force
Army (Level 7/10):
Navy (Level 9/10):
Air Force (Level 2/10):

Also all Air Forces start at Level 1/10, maybe we'll give Germany, France and Britain a 2.

@Bolovia: You should also write the number of aircraft owned and the size of the Mexican Navy.

The aircraft were very few as the Mexican Air Force was just founded just a month before the date we'll start the RP on (August 11, 1913) so just put 1-10 crafts.

It seems my fingers must have slipped then. 45,370,530 for Britain, and 765,900,500 empire total.

Probably because there are colons at the end...