Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:08 pm
It appears that this thread has sparked a most virile debate
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
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Personal Freedom wrote:You know this concept is rather flawed. If we narrow the contestants down and re-vote... People will join and vote for [Insert Well Rper Here] just because they have heard of him.
Cerillium wrote:I hate to burst bubbles, but many OP don't have enough time in their day to track who to nominate and yada yada. I run a megathread. We have staff. Do I now ask my staff (who have real lives as well) to take on more responsibility because I work 12-14 hour shifts IRL? Will it be "OP-only" or can Co-OP also participate? What of those who have no idea about these monthly/quarterly awards? What about the same people receiving the same nominations every month? Is that fair? (You bet, if they churn out quality each and every day.) Some RP last only a page. Some OP are clueless people.
Esternial fashioned the Cafe. How many actually use it? He also fashioned the Multiverse Registry. How many use it? I'm amazed by how many people have been involved in P2TM since its inception yet are unaware of the things Esty established to help us network. This thread has been a sticky for a while yet Leg only discovered it after nominations were closed. Leg's active, too.
Yearly works. Somewhere in this thread someone said that the idea of an award inspired them to try harder next (this) year. That's really what it's about. It's not about pats on the back and "atta boys" every few months; a good OP will do that with his players DAILY if he really gives a shit about quality in his thread. It's about challenging people to work hard through the year. Good players and posts are remembered. We've never had a P2TM annual award thread but now that we have one, we can make footnotes (and save links) for next year. The Grammy is given yearly, as is the Oscar, and Time's Person of the Year is annual.
If I could recommend anything, it would be that we better define categories and the criteria for each.
Tiltjuice wrote:Alleniana wrote:I think the issue is between compulsory and voluntary unification. Is that it?
Also, a random question, am I the only person who doesn't lurk? I know Esty does, Sentinel does, Min does, Nightkill doesn't lurk, he IS a lurk, and I suspect plenty of others lurk too.
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Cerillium wrote:Altito Asmoro wrote:Most Improved RP'er List:
Altito Asmoro: 3
the balkens: 1
The BranRiech: 2
Nightkill(?): 1
Constaniana: 1
Imperial Canadian Duchy: 1
Dutch Union of Americana: 1
Timothia: 1
Nation of Hay: 1
And I am the winner.
Can we please be more careful with counting votes?
The BranRiech, for example, has 3 votes for Most Improved (Tiltjuice, Swith Witherward and myself). I thought he had one other.
Many votes were just spoiled and some people used nicks rather than the full names.
Alleniana is doing a fantastic job.
Tiltjuice wrote:Alleniana wrote:I think the issue is between compulsory and voluntary unification. Is that it?
Also, a random question, am I the only person who doesn't lurk? I know Esty does, Sentinel does, Min does, Nightkill doesn't lurk, he IS a lurk, and I suspect plenty of others lurk too.
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Cerillium wrote:
Night doesn't lurk. He stalks. He's the Abbreviated Beetlejuice; you don't need to say his name three times to make him appear. I suppose that makes him a Candle Jack, in a fashion, only it's conversations that are abducted rather than the poster.
Seriously, and only four posts after being summoned.
Mincaldenteans wrote:I'm sure they will, in all we all have our opinions and I look forward to seeing theirs.
To sum it all up from my perspective:
1) Awards should not be given on a yearly basis but on a monthly (or every 3 months, or bi yearly) to those that a Participating OPs can agree on.
2) Awards are too narrowed and give little to credit those that have indeed put time and effort to what they have done.
3) Memos/Notes from the awarded players is invaluable to those wanting to learn from any source.
4) Creativity cannot be contained to such specifics and will eventually lead to unfairness and bias simply based on who responds to threads and who doesn't.
5) Communication has and always will be key to making an RP sink or swim; while rewards surely won't let said player stand out, their memos, knowledge and opinions matter and will likely help others in the future.
6) Its not perfect, therefore reward systems will likely need to be based on a theme. (i.e., January, Spotlight Player: Altito Asmoro, s/he will give a memo on what they've done to improve him/herself and what made them stick to what they do and why they do.)
And I don't get the whole unite and live happily ever after with cupcakes. I never said it was perfect, I did say it was a venue to learn from those that are recognized.
Swith Witherward wrote:I... thought the nomination period was over? As of the 10th, anyway. Now I feel badly because I told several people that the 10th was the cutoff date. Are you still accepting nominations that came in once the process to tally started? If so, there are four people who might put in their nominations.
Sentinel XV wrote:Swith Witherward wrote:I... thought the nomination period was over? As of the 10th, anyway. Now I feel badly because I told several people that the 10th was the cutoff date. Are you still accepting nominations that came in once the process to tally started? If so, there are four people who might put in their nominations.
I guess it doesn't really matter. Tell them to go ahead.
Sentinel XV wrote:Swith Witherward wrote:I... thought the nomination period was over? As of the 10th, anyway. Now I feel badly because I told several people that the 10th was the cutoff date. Are you still accepting nominations that came in once the process to tally started? If so, there are four people who might put in their nominations.
I guess it doesn't really matter. Tell them to go ahead.
PyrosMagicLand wrote:Who won?