NationStates

WINNERS:
CATEGORY: Roleplayer
Best OVERALL RP'er: Esternial and Giovenith and G-Tech Corporation
Best Genre RP'er:

• Mystery: Jessjohnesik
• High Fantasy: Sentinel XV
• War: The Tiger Kingdom
• Comedy: Nightkill the Emperor
• School-based: Nightkill the Emperor
• Nation RP: Alleniana
• Crime: Cylarn

Best Worldbuilder: Swith Witherward
Best OP: The Tiger Kingdom
Most Involved in P2TM: Nightkill the Emperor
Funniest RP'er:
Most Improved RP'er:
Best Writer (The "Novelist" Award):

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CATEGORY: Roleplay
Best OVERALL RP:
Best Genre RP:

• Mystery:
• High Fantasy:
• War:
• Comedy:
• School-based:
• Nation RP:
• Crime:

Best Lore/Worldbuilding RP:
Best RP Series:
Funniest RP:
Most Creative or Original RP Idea:

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CATEGORY: Character
Best OVERALL Character:
Funniest Character:
Most Original Character:

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CATEGORY: Post
Best Fight or Fight Scene Post:
Best Horror Post:
Best Comedy Post (The "Funniest Post" Award):
Best Heartwarming/Tearjerker Post:

Best Overall RPer:
Utceforp: 1
G-Tech Corporation: 2
Halleon: 1
Holy Empire of Avalon: 1
Le Quebec: 1
Esternial: 2
Swith Witherward: 1
Zarkenis Ultima: 1
Giovenith: 2
The Tiger Kingdom: 1
Towers: 1
Prospect Landings: 1
Transoxthraxia: 1
Xing: 1

Esternial and Giovenith, each with 2 votes, has won.

Best Genre RP'er:
Mystery: Tiltjuice: 1 Jessjohnesik: 3 The Blazing Aura: 1 Whittington: 2 Volnotova: 1 Bone Fort: 1 JESSJOHNESIK
High Fantasy: Sentinel XV: 5 Rupudska: 1 Constanania: 1 Nightkill the Emperor: 1 Neo Byzantine Empire: 1 Contamenesia: 1 Charmera: 1 Vaxon: 1 G-Tech Corporation: 1 Arcerion: 1 Videssos: 1 SENTINEL XV
War: Legital: 2 The Tiger Kingdom: 6 Cylarn: 3 Equalsun Empire: 1 Monfrox: 1 Holy Empire of Avalon: 1 Aelosia: 1 Pavlostani: 1 Galdius: 1 Rupudska: 1 Inquilabistan: 1 Alleniana: 1 THE TIGER KINGDOM
Comedy: Cylarn: 2 Tiltjuice: 1 Swith Witherward: 1 Nightkill the Emperor: 4 Esternial: 2 Ayreonia: 1 Cerilium: 2 Nationstateslandville: 1 NIGHTKILL THE EMPEROR
School-based: Esternial: 2 Contamenesia: 1 Terripin Array: 1 Nightkill the Emperor: 3 Ferret Revolution: 1 NIGHTKILL THE EMPEROR
Nation RP: Germanic Templars: 3 Horusland: 2 Neros: 1 Alleniana: 6 Halleon: 1 Seljuq Kyiv: 1 Transoxthraxia: 1 Of The Quendi: 2 The Drone Empire: 1 ALLENIANA
Crime: Giovenith: 1 Terintania: 1 Galdius: 1 Cylarn: 2 Erucia: 1 Transoxthraxia: 2 CYLARN AND TRANSOXTHRAXIA

Best Worldbuilder: Aona: 1 Swith Witherward: 9 Agritum: 3 Caltarania: 1 Vaxon: 1 Midcaltaneans: 1 Arcerion: 1 Damak Var: 1 The Tiger Kingdom:1 Ayreonia: 1 Zeinbrad: 1SWITH WITHERWARD

Best OP: Transoxthraxia: 1 Novia Socialist Soviet Republic: 1 Swith Witherward: 2 Cerillium: 4 The Tiger Kingdom: 7 Alleniana: 1 Vaxon: 1 Ferret Revolution: 1 Ruridova: 1 Horusland: 1 Lancearc: 2 Arcerion: 1 Rupudska: 1 Monfrox: 1 Tiltjuice: 1 Shimon-Zhivago: 1 Damak Var: 1 Timothia: 1 THE TIGER KINGDOM
I'm exhausted, I'll just leave it there, I'll do some later, maybe.

Most Involved in P2TM: Nocia Soviet Socialist Republic: 1 Nightkill the Emperor: 17 Alleniana: 3 Esternial: 5 Marsisian: 1 G-Tech Corporation: 1 NIGHTKILL THE EMPEROR

Do high fantasy.

Altito Asmoro wrote:Most Improved RP'er List:

Altito Asmoro: 3
the balkens: 1
The BranRiech: 2
Nightkill(?): 1
Constaniana: 1
Imperial Canadian Duchy: 1
Dutch Union of Americana: 1
Timothia: 1
Nation of Hay: 1

And I am the winner.

Can we please be more careful with counting votes?
The BranRiech, for example, has 3 votes for Most Improved (Tiltjuice, Swith Witherward and myself). I thought he had one other.

Many votes were just spoiled and some people used nicks rather than the full names.

Alleniana is doing a fantastic job.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to close the thread to nominations and then have people vote on those who have already been nominated. It doesn't quite seem fair that getting three out of thirteen cast votes should win someone the title of most improved RP'er. That at least is my stance. The P2TM Awards is unrepresentative enough as it is without letting people win stuff with tiny pluralities.

Of the Quendi wrote:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to close the thread to nominations and then have people vote on those who have already been nominated. It doesn't quite seem fair that getting three out of thirteen cast votes should win someone the title of most improved RP'er. That at least is my stance. The P2TM Awards is unrepresentative enough as it is without letting people win stuff with tiny pluralities.

I agree.

Of the Quendi wrote:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to close the thread to nominations and then have people vote on those who have already been nominated. It doesn't quite seem fair that getting three out of thirteen cast votes should win someone the title of most improved RP'er. That at least is my stance. The P2TM Awards is unrepresentative enough as it is without letting people win stuff with tiny pluralities.

It would make it fair.

Of the Quendi wrote:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to close the thread to nominations and then have people vote on those who have already been nominated. It doesn't quite seem fair that getting three out of thirteen cast votes should win someone the title of most improved RP'er. That at least is my stance. The P2TM Awards is unrepresentative enough as it is without letting people win stuff with tiny pluralities.

That does seem a good idea, especially for the Best RPer section. In retrospect, maybe having nominations, then voting on them might have been a better idea.

Thanks Cerillium.

Alleniana wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to close the thread to nominations and then have people vote on those who have already been nominated. It doesn't quite seem fair that getting three out of thirteen cast votes should win someone the title of most improved RP'er. That at least is my stance. The P2TM Awards is unrepresentative enough as it is without letting people win stuff with tiny pluralities.

That does seem a good idea, especially for the Best RPer section. In retrospect, maybe having nominations, then voting on them might have been a better idea.

Thanks Cerillium.

So, will voting start up sometime soon?

Legital wrote:

Alleniana wrote:That does seem a good idea, especially for the Best RPer section. In retrospect, maybe having nominations, then voting on them might have been a better idea.

Thanks Cerillium.

So, will voting start up sometime soon?

I'm not really sure. I'll do the rest of the RPers section, and maybe someone else could do the RPs and stuff sections? Then we can decide who gets to be voted for.

My post above with all the results will be updated whenever I get the motivation to count more votes, so I suggest everyone check that.

You know I guess it makes more sense that way, but it is probably going to showcase only the best known rpers and rps.

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to close the thread to nominations and then have people vote on those who have already been nominated. It doesn't quite seem fair that getting three out of thirteen cast votes should win someone the title of most improved RP'er. That at least is my stance. The P2TM Awards is unrepresentative enough as it is without letting people win stuff with tiny pluralities.

I agree.

Makes sense. Do we need a separate thread for it?

Sentinel XV wrote:

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I agree.

Makes sense. Do we need a separate thread for it?

Only if you think so.

Monfrox wrote:

Sentinel XV wrote:Makes sense. Do we need a separate thread for it?

Only if you think so.

I don't know what to think anymore.

Sentinel XV wrote:

Monfrox wrote:Only if you think so.

I don't know what to think anymore.

Welcome to my world.

That's why I gave up thinking.

Monfrox wrote:

Sentinel XV wrote:I don't know what to think anymore.

Welcome to my world.

That's why I gave up thinking.

"cogito ergo sum"
non cogitas? ergo, tu... non es?

Alleniana wrote:

Monfrox wrote:Welcome to my world.

That's why I gave up thinking.

"cogito ergo sum"
non cogitas? ergo, tu... non es?

The jig is up!

*dives out the window*

Sentinel XV wrote:

Monfrox wrote:Only if you think so.

I don't know what to think anymore.

You think therefor you are.

A separate thread would be good. Keep things clean and simple. Kindly request that people stay on topic so the thread doesn't get cluttered.

I know there were a lot of posts nominated. Could we break down the "best fight/flight scene" by "joint posts" (two or more players involved in the battle, multiple posts) and "single post" (one writer, battle moment encapsulated)?

Also, having links to the posts would go a long way in determining which ones to vote for. I saw some with just player names which doesn't help any of us gauge the actual post. Rather than go through the nomination process again, can we scrap those who didn't bother to put links?

My two cents. Won't break my heart if you decided something differently.

Cerillium wrote:

Sentinel XV wrote:I don't know what to think anymore.

You think therefor you are.

A separate thread would be good. Keep things clean and simple. Kindly request that people stay on topic so the thread doesn't get cluttered.

I know there were a lot of posts nominated. Could we break down the "best fight/flight scene" by "joint posts" (two or more players involved in the battle, multiple posts) and "single post" (one writer, battle moment encapsulated)?

Also, having links to the posts would go a long way in determining which ones to vote for. I saw some with just player names which doesn't help any of us gauge the actual post. Rather than go through the nomination process again, can we scrap those who didn't bother to put links?

My two cents. Won't break my heart if you decided something differently.

I agree that links to posts would make this much better. However, scrapping those who did not might get rid of a significant amount of votes. After looking through Alleniana's score tally, it looked like tons of people were nominated at least once. They would, if the nominations were scrapped, would not have a chance at getting more votes later when the other thread comes up allowing people to vote on the already listed nominees.

Legital wrote:I agree that links to posts would make this much better. However, scrapping those who did not might get rid of a significant amount of votes. After looking through Alleniana's score tally, it looked like tons of people were nominated at least once. They would, if the nominations were scrapped, would not have a chance at getting more votes later when the other thread comes up allowing people to vote on the already listed nominees.

We could ask people to edit their nomination list to provide the links prior to fashioning the next thread. It would only apply to:
Best Fight or Fight Scene Post; Best Horror Post; Best Comedy Post (The "Funniest Post" Award); Best Heartwarming/Tearjerker Post

My own nomination for horror would be canceled out because I never found the link. Links would allow us judge for ourselves by comparing different posts. Otherwise it's a popularity contest. It looks like most people supplied links but there are a few that just list a player's name and nothing else.

Actually, I should get off my lazy ass and dig up Prim's link. Scratch that. I'd removed it when I realized I couldn't locate that link.

I feel like the post voting won't get off the ground; it's a nice thought, but with the hundreds of thousands of posts and at least dozens of active RPs, it's going to be pretty hard to find even more than one person who agrees a post is the best.

As for nominations, I think maybe those with highest noms, plus anyone else, by consensus, gets into the votes.

Cerillium wrote:

Legital wrote:I agree that links to posts would make this much better. However, scrapping those who did not might get rid of a significant amount of votes. After looking through Alleniana's score tally, it looked like tons of people were nominated at least once. They would, if the nominations were scrapped, would not have a chance at getting more votes later when the other thread comes up allowing people to vote on the already listed nominees.

We could ask people to edit their nomination list to provide the links prior to fashioning the next thread. It would only apply to:
Best Fight or Fight Scene Post; Best Horror Post; Best Comedy Post (The "Funniest Post" Award); Best Heartwarming/Tearjerker Post

My own nomination for horror would be canceled out because I never found the link. Links would allow us judge for ourselves by comparing different posts. Otherwise it's a popularity contest. It looks like most people supplied links but there are a few that just list a player's name and nothing else.

Actually, I should get off my lazy ass and dig up Prim's link. Scratch that. I'd removed it when I realized I couldn't locate that link.

I agree that without links to posts it may just very well be a popularity contest. However,

Alleniana wrote:I feel like the post voting won't get off the ground; it's a nice thought, but with the hundreds of thousands of posts and at least dozens of active RPs, it's going to be pretty hard to find even more than one person who agrees a post is the best.

As for nominations, I think maybe those with highest noms, plus anyone else, by consensus, gets into the votes.

I also agree with this. It'll be difficult to actually get the votes. I just stumbled across this topic tonight, and never saw it before. I'd have posted my nominations, but I was too slow. If that will be the case for many other people for votes (and those which are just apathetic towards the voting) then it'll be hard to get a decent amount of votes.

That's the beauty of the links. People can read the specific post and then vote.

Cerillium wrote:That's the beauty of the links. People can read the specific post and then vote.

Thing is though, with so many posts, chances are, it'll rather be whoever posts a link first and gets people interested rather than whoever has got the best post; if I pluck out a decently good post and post it, and ignore 3 brilliant ones, I doubt anyone will ever let those 3 see the bright of day.

Unlikely that my past experience matter but we had the same issue with 'simming' via chatrooms or email based. The only thing we could do was ask each OP to present a piece of literature that was worthy of that month and submit it to a 'council' of OPs. Now... considering the amount of RPs that are in P2TM, and the many that can be nominated, those that are nominated within a specific timeframe will be given a chance, and those that are not will be considered for the future (if there is one).

Its not perfect, but a forum based nomination is next to impossible.

For example: I got nominated for worldbuilder and most involved in RPs. I personally don't agree but am thankful for those that thought otherwise. In a given dateline, maybe I could have won, or maybe it wouldn't have even mattered. And award system based on creative writing and planning is next to impossible as a permanent feature, let alone a yearly feature. I went with it to nominate those whose efforts need to be recognized, but what's to say than an author who churned up a piece of genius in December/January doesn't deserve the same recognition?

In my opinion: if this were to happen a monthly scheme would need to happen followed by a sort of personal memo by the winner on what makes their RP unique (is it the characters? The plot? The setting? The outline to make it function?).

Am I narrowing it too much? Most definitely. Am I also attempting at broadening the nominations? You bet'cha. Creativity and originality shouldn't be funneled through a specific channel, but it shouldn't be laxed off either. I haven't figured out how a monthly award system should be recognized, maybe a bi-yearly.... in the end I surmise by saying the options shouldn't be so hastily narrowed. I myself found it difficult to nominated who in which genre and what category given.

Mincaldenteans wrote:Unlikely that my past experience matter but we had the same issue with 'simming' via chatrooms or email based. The only thing we could do was ask each OP to present a piece of literature that was worthy of that month and submit it to a 'council' of OPs. Now... considering the amount of RPs that are in P2TM, and the many that can be nominated, those that are nominated within a specific timeframe will be given a chance, and those that are not will be considered for the future (if there is one).

Its not perfect, but a forum based nomination is next to impossible.

For example: I got nominated for worldbuilder and most involved in RPs. I personally don't agree but am thankful for those that thought otherwise. In a given dateline, maybe I could have won, or maybe it wouldn't have even mattered. And award system based on creative writing and planning is next to impossible as a permanent feature, let alone a yearly feature. I went with it to nominate those whose efforts need to be recognized, but what's to say than an author who churned up a piece of genius in December/January doesn't deserve the same recognition?

In my opinion: if this were to happen a monthly scheme would need to happen followed by a sort of personal memo by the winner on what makes their RP unique (is it the characters? The plot? The setting? The outline to make it function?).

Am I narrowing it too much? Most definitely. Am I also attempting at broadening the nominations? You bet'cha. Creativity and originality shouldn't be funneled through a specific channel, but it shouldn't be laxed off either. I haven't figured out how a monthly award system should be recognized, maybe a bi-yearly.... in the end I surmise by saying the options shouldn't be so hastily narrowed. I myself found it difficult to nominated who in which genre and what category given.

I think some really good points are brought up here. I don't think a best post nomination should really be there at all; there's just too much that goes unread to be able to find anything that could be near to "the best".

And as to the timeframe, I actually think a monthly vote might be something we could have a bit of fun with. It might make P2TM a bit more competitive, but it won't really be compulsory. After all, I can hardly remember my first posts, and they were nearly exactly 1 year ago. Broadening vote categories and making them more frequent would make this way fairer.