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Postby Aldelxane » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:22 pm

Fantrum, I will be sending an envoy to Canada to propose an alliance tomorrow on the IC.

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Postby Aldelxane » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:24 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Fantrum wrote:Why is everyone going to attack Russia? Im going to have to help them out!

And I'm going to fight China!

If I ever became involved in the conflict, I would support China against your bloodthirsty Shogunate. It could happen, via The First International.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:25 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:And I'm going to fight China!

If I ever became involved in the conflict, I would support China against your bloodthirsty Shogunate.

Poland doesn't invade, Poland gets invaded. Poland doesn't assist, Poland gets assisted.
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Postby Neros » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:25 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Neros wrote:There's just so many things wrong with it. Uranium is hard to come by first of all, and mining it would be uneconomical since it is only used for weaponry. It would not be able to be made into bullets or the like due to the scarcity of the metal, and is overall just a terrible idea, not mention the radiation effects of it.

Lithium is more abundantly found and thus would be a better incendiary device, but since you are so keen on making incinderary rounds of ammunition, Potassium would have the mass. However, these would be fucked in water and oxidize in air. So, this means uranium would not be able to be exposed as artillery shells or ammunition, and only in dry conditions can Alkali metals be used.

There's some chemistry you're not understanding too much here...The vacuum-sealed variants would work in theory, but will be incredibly delicate as too much handling and movement will cause the container to fail and explode.



Well, to be frank, the guy who reserved it is a no-show.

Yes, I am well aware that uranium is rare and vacuum seals would be delicate. That's why it's under "superweapon", not "weapon every soldier has in his back pocket." And it's not like I care if it shortens lifespans.

....But enough to employ them with your battleships and aerovessels?

The Empire of Pretantia wrote: Such shells are used primarily by the battleships and aerovessels, including the mighty Kamikaze.


So, you're gonna tell me you have nuclear weaponry.

Look, a realistic way to go about this would be not a solid combustible, but a gas. Imagine the gas warfare of the First World War, but this gas can be ignited and chain react across a battlefield. It could potentially be mixed with clay or lead to turn into an incendiary device as well, which is what I believe you are looking for. My suggestion is Asine, which is a mixture of three parts Hydrogen one part Arsenic. It is extremely lethal without the aid of fire as it kills red blood cells upon contact, but the fiery application would be more showy and awesome, as well as cleanse the area of the gas - and enemy soldiers - once you wish to advance. You can carry this in your vacuum tubes with a small piece of potassium that once it breaks, ignites, and thus ignites the gas.

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Postby Aldelxane » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:30 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:If I ever became involved in the conflict, I would support China against your bloodthirsty Shogunate.

Poland doesn't invade, Poland gets invaded. Poland doesn't assist, Poland gets assisted.

This is a very different Poland. It is allied with The USSR, not annexed by it, it has a large, advanced army, it is part of The International. It controls the majority of the mineral rich Czechoslovakia. Anyhow, this hypothetical situation would only arise if The USSR moved troops in to help China.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Neros wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Yes, I am well aware that uranium is rare and vacuum seals would be delicate. That's why it's under "superweapon", not "weapon every soldier has in his back pocket." And it's not like I care if it shortens lifespans.

....But enough to employ them with your battleships and aerovessels?

Yes.
.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote: Such shells are used primarily by the battleships and aerovessels, including the mighty Kamikaze.


So, you're gonna tell me you have nuclear weaponry.

The correct term is radiological. Nuclear is uranium blowing up. Radiological is blowing uranium up.
Look, a realistic way to go about this would be not a solid combustible, but a gas. Imagine the gas warfare of the First World War, but this gas can be ignited and chain react across a battlefield. It could potentially be mixed with clay or lead to turn into an incendiary device as well, which is what I believe you are looking for. My suggestion is Asine, which is a mixture of three parts Hydrogen one part Arsenic. It is extremely lethal without the aid of fire as it kills red blood cells upon contact, but the fiery application would be more showy and awesome, as well as cleanse the area of the gas - and enemy soldiers - once you wish to advance. You can carry this in your vacuum tubes with a small piece of potassium that once it breaks, ignites, and thus ignites the gas.

T.T OK, you make an excellent argument. Rule of real over rule of cool, ay?
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Postby Fantrum » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:32 pm

Aldelxane wrote:Fantrum, I will be sending an envoy to Canada to propose an alliance tomorrow on the IC.

Im trying to play more like 1800's America, no alliances! Im more than happy to trade with everyone, but as of yet, I have absolutely no intention of letting Canada get dragged into a war we have no business in; Or have we all forgotten WW1? Of course, this is OOC and therefore what I have said here shouldnt stop you from trying.
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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:34 pm

Assuming i get accepted, do i go for conquering Arabia first, or the Byzantines? Any suggestions?
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Postby Aldelxane » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:35 pm

New Babylonia wrote:Assuming i get accepted, do i go for conquering Arabia first, or the Byzantines? Any suggestions?

Arabia, I think it's an NPC.

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Postby Fantrum » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:37 pm

Alleniana wrote:Arsine?

Rename it Arsein.

Hey, I have a proposition for you.
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Postby Fantrum » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:45 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Fantrum wrote:Hey, I have a proposition for you.

Yeees?


Well, since yaknow, we're such good friends, and yaknow how your about to go to war with the CSA, I figured the Canadians could help out a little. If we get correctly compensated...
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Postby Neros » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:50 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Neros wrote:....But enough to employ them with your battleships and aerovessels?

Yes.
.


So, you're gonna tell me you have nuclear weaponry.

The correct term is radiological. Nuclear is uranium blowing up. Radiological is blowing uranium up.
Look, a realistic way to go about this would be not a solid combustible, but a gas. Imagine the gas warfare of the First World War, but this gas can be ignited and chain react across a battlefield. It could potentially be mixed with clay or lead to turn into an incendiary device as well, which is what I believe you are looking for. My suggestion is Asine, which is a mixture of three parts Hydrogen one part Arsenic. It is extremely lethal without the aid of fire as it kills red blood cells upon contact, but the fiery application would be more showy and awesome, as well as cleanse the area of the gas - and enemy soldiers - once you wish to advance. You can carry this in your vacuum tubes with a small piece of potassium that once it breaks, ignites, and thus ignites the gas.

T.T OK, you make an excellent argument. Rule of real over rule of cool, ay?

Alright then, just wanted to show you a better way to go about this than straight up uranium. What's cooler is that Asine was discovered in 1775, and can be made with a simple process:

Arsenic trisulfide is found near volcanic environments, which being along a major fault lines and having many volcanic islands can be readily accessible, and when heated together with soap, isolates arsenic (As3+) and produces sulfur as a waste product. This isolated arsenic is then mixed with H-, which is formed as a waste product of various salts and thus can be found in ready supply from industrial and salt-making waste, and forms AsH3, the compound you want.

Other processes can be used, such as Zinc arsenide, but will not be as economical nor readily available. If I were you, I'd have the process and materials kept secret to ensure you have the gas and not others, at least for a long time. What's cool as well is this process was actually known as far back as 1250, and Johann Schröder published ways to prepare arsenic around this time as well, meaning you are well within realism by having it weaponized.

Fantrum wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Yeees?


Well, since yaknow, we're such good friends, and yaknow how your about to go to war with the CSA, I figured the Canadians could help out a little. If we get correctly compensated...


....Sexually?
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Postby Fantrum » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:56 pm

Neros wrote:
Fantrum wrote:
Well, since yaknow, we're such good friends, and yaknow how your about to go to war with the CSA, I figured the Canadians could help out a little. If we get correctly compensated...


....Sexually?


Maybe...
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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:58 pm

Oh, i see how it is. No one wants to talk about plans taking over the world or w/e with me. I see how it is. And here i was thinking we were all friends...
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Postby Halleon » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:04 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Neros wrote:Discuss the war out with Halleon. Don't just be like "I will win here and here because POLAN STRENG", realistically think what would happen if you surprise-attacked the Germans. The Germans are sure to respond with their own Superweapons if you attack with your own as well - so I would keep that in mind.

In my honest opinion, I wouldn't attack Germany alone. If you catch my drift.

EDIT: Super Six Sixty Six

Sorry, as I said earlier, TBH I have never RP'd a war before, and due to the long time period between posts, I assumed that I would destroy something as the aggressor, and then Germania would respond by attacking my forces in the area. I think I know what a god-mod is in the context now. Also said earlier, I have to leave soon so if I decide to continue with a war I will organize forces around the fort tomorrow, and let him respond.


I don't mind rping about a war aslong as its interesting and fun so if you need to work anything out or have any questions feel free send me a telegram.
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Postby Neros » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:16 pm

New Babylonia wrote:Oh, i see how it is. No one wants to talk about plans taking over the world or w/e with me. I see how it is. And here i was thinking we were all friends...

They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, “Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come!”


We do not associate with the mud-colored races who believe in false Allah's.

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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:10 pm

Neros wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:Oh, i see how it is. No one wants to talk about plans taking over the world or w/e with me. I see how it is. And here i was thinking we were all friends...

They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, “Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come!”


We do not associate with the mud-colored races who believe in false Allah's.


We aren't muslim.
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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Postby Neros » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:20 pm

New Babylonia wrote:
Neros wrote:They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, “Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come!”


We do not associate with the mud-colored races who believe in false Allah's.


We aren't muslim.

Oh. What do your people follow, though?


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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:45 pm

Neros wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:
We aren't muslim.

Oh. What do your people follow, though?


Frankly, the Emperor doesn't give a damn. Census shows a sizable majority are Muslim, but there are also Jews, Catholics, Orthodoxy. The Emperor simply isn't baptized in any of them, so as he sees it, no official religion. Religious tolerance.
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

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You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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Postby Alleniana » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:48 pm

New Babylonia wrote:
Neros wrote:Oh. What do your people follow, though?


Frankly, the Emperor doesn't give a damn. Census shows a sizable majority are Muslim, but there are also Jews, Catholics, Orthodoxy. The Emperor simply isn't baptized in any of them, so as he sees it, no official religion. Religious tolerance.

What of agnosticism, atheism, Sunni v Shi'a/Shi'ite, Hindu, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism? Would be cool to have a Zoroastrian majority nation

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Postby Neo Byzantine Empire » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:51 pm

We, the righteous children of Roma, follow Christianity as our lord and savior, Jesus Christ, had originally defined it, or at least we adhere as closely as we possibly can, a damn sight moreso than those traitors in the Catholic Church.


In all seriousness, though; it's an Orthodox State with an Empress who has some interesting views on the matter, and a fascination with the ancient Hellas (Greek Polytheism)

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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:52 pm

Alleniana wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:
Frankly, the Emperor doesn't give a damn. Census shows a sizable majority are Muslim, but there are also Jews, Catholics, Orthodoxy. The Emperor simply isn't baptized in any of them, so as he sees it, no official religion. Religious tolerance.

What of agnosticism, atheism, Sunni v Shi'a/Shi'ite, Hindu, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism? Would be cool to have a Zoroastrian majority nation


I named the 'major' ones. But the Emperor, not being baptized, and not caring, has laws making religious intolerance illegal. With the penalties being pretty brutal, so you don't see much religious conflict.
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

⚧Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know gender and sex aren't the same thing ⚧
Pronouns? Just use whatever, it's all the same to me :P
You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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