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Baja California y Sonora
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:26 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:@Caltarania, What exactly am I getting from helping you?


Tulips. Many Tulips.

Along with many guns. And free trade. And possible land in the New World.

Axonic wrote:Wait, You were serious about that Tulip thing?


Yes, it's an actual thing.

The Dutch give over 1,000 tulips every year to Canada as a sign of gratitude for liberating them in WWII.

I've taken it a step further, and now every deal comes with tulips. Many tulips.

I think i'd want more of a colony in the pacific/Indian. :p

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Postby Marsisian » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:27 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Axonic wrote:I hate to sound like a dick, But they're just fucking tulips.
I most definitely need more than that to join a war.


Land in the New World.

Much land.

Literally, all their territory. We can dismantle them completely if we want.

But I never really asked for your help, anyway. You're just looking for a side.

But let me tell you this; if you go against us, you'll have Russia to contend with.

So I suggest you either go with us, or go neutral.

Uh, our army was never good at doing things...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tannenberg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_the_Masurian_Lakes
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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:29 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Tulips. Many Tulips.

Along with many guns. And free trade. And possible land in the New World.



Yes, it's an actual thing.

The Dutch give over 1,000 tulips every year to Canada as a sign of gratitude for liberating them in WWII.

I've taken it a step further, and now every deal comes with tulips. Many tulips.

I think i'd want more of a colony in the pacific/Indian. :p


I'm not giving you any of my Dutch territory.

I'm just suggesting that there is much to gain from fighting against the CSA, Chicago and NSA.

Marsisian wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Land in the New World.

Much land.

Literally, all their territory. We can dismantle them completely if we want.

But I never really asked for your help, anyway. You're just looking for a side.

But let me tell you this; if you go against us, you'll have Russia to contend with.

So I suggest you either go with us, or go neutral.

Uh, our army was never good at doing things...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tannenberg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_the_Masurian_Lakes


Doesn't matter. They won't be able to conquer you; no one conquers Russia in the winter.

Just hold them off until the winter.

They won't be able to make any actual gains, and if they attempt to then they will be frozen to death.
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Postby Bujahla » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:30 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Land in the New World.

Much land.

Literally, all their territory. We can dismantle them completely if we want.

But I never really asked for your help, anyway. You're just looking for a side.

But let me tell you this; if you go against us, you'll have Russia to contend with.

So I suggest you either go with us, or go neutral.

Uh, our army was never good at doing things...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tannenberg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_the_Masurian_Lakes


Thank you for owning up to that fact. You could be good, but not now. Not modernized enough.
*Huzzah he lives!*

Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Bujahla » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:30 pm

The Orange Coalition:
- Dutch Republic
- Commonwealth of Austrailë
- Russian Empire
- Kingdom of Charcas
- The Great Shogunate of Japan
- Siam (I suppose)

The Neoist Powers:
- Northeastern States of America
- Confederate States of America
- Union of Chicago
-Caliphate of Udin (?)
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Marsisian » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:31 pm

Bujahla wrote:


Thank you for owning up to that fact. You could be good, but not now. Not modernized enough.

Maybe if I get generals with actual balls, I could do good.
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Postby Bujahla » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:32 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Thank you for owning up to that fact. You could be good, but not now. Not modernized enough.

Maybe if I get generals with FUCKING BALLS I COULD BE FINE!


That's not only it. You need a more advanced system of trains. Russia is so big and vast its incredibly hard to mobilize your army. As well they are much larger making it even harder.
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:33 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Thank you for owning up to that fact. You could be good, but not now. Not modernized enough.

Maybe if I get generals with actual balls, I could do good.


Poland balls?
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:33 pm

Bah, By the time you reach Chicago, your men will be fatigued, your supplies low, casualties from guerrillas and NSA/CSA straining your army. Then you face the task of pacifying a nation formed on three peninsulas, one that is largely self sufficient. Oh and, its the Chicago Union, not Union of Chicago.
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Baja California y Sonora
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:34 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:I think i'd want more of a colony in the pacific/Indian. :p


I'm not giving you any of my Dutch territory.

I'm just suggesting that there is much to gain from fighting against the CSA, Chicago and NSA.


Oh no (A mirkin army) you got me all wrong, but i guess i'll take what i can get.

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Postby Bujahla » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:35 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Bah, By the time you reach Chicago, your men will be fatigued, your supplies low, casualties from guerrillas and NSA/CSA straining your army. Then you face the task of pacifying a nation formed on three peninsulas, one that is largely self sufficient. Oh and, its the Chicago Union, not Union of Chicago.


Chicago should not be self sufficient.....
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:35 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Bah, By the time you reach Chicago, your men will be fatigued, your supplies low, casualties from guerrillas and NSA/CSA straining your army. Then you face the task of pacifying a nation formed on three peninsulas, one that is largely self sufficient. Oh and, its the Chicago Union, not Union of Chicago.


You seem to forget that I'm not even sending my entire force in the initial wave.

Literally. 1,000,000 out of 3,000,000 militia (which aren't great, no).

And I suspect the Japanese will only arrive a while afterwards.

We aren't going to, necessarily, zerg you. There will be actual tactics.
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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:37 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Axonic wrote:No honestly, what can I gain from this war, on either side. Pretend I am a customer, and you are a salesman.


Join the Orange Coalition!

One time offer! Join now and get three thousand free tulips! And territory in the New World! Freshly conquered from the New World nations!

Pavlostani wrote:
The board would look like this, should I get accepted. :)


I'm intrigued as to why a nation in Africa is rushing to the aid of the New World nations, when they are quite clearly not Muslim (?), when one of your goals is to spread it.

But okay, I guess.

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Nice post. But who are the Neoist Powers?


You guysh.

You can change the name if you want (with the Confederate and Northeastern American approval)


It's not so much to help them as it is to harm you. If you look at my history, you'd notice that my people fought a war to prevent Dutch colonization in my territory. As a result, we aren't too happy about the Dutch being our neighbors, and we'd like nothing more than to remove your presence in Africa, convert your former peoples and gain powerful allies overseas.
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:38 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Join the Orange Coalition!

One time offer! Join now and get three thousand free tulips! And territory in the New World! Freshly conquered from the New World nations!



I'm intrigued as to why a nation in Africa is rushing to the aid of the New World nations, when they are quite clearly not Muslim (?), when one of your goals is to spread it.

But okay, I guess.



You guysh.

You can change the name if you want (with the Confederate and Northeastern American approval)


It's not so much to help them as it is to harm you. If you look at my history, you'd notice that my people fought a war to prevent Dutch colonization in my territory. As a result, we aren't too happy about the Dutch being our neighbors, and we'd like nothing more than to remove your presence in Africa, convert your former peoples and gain powerful allies overseas.


And when did I ever agree to having fought a war with you in both our respective?

I don't recall ever doing so.
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Postby Bujahla » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:38 pm

Caltarania wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Bah, By the time you reach Chicago, your men will be fatigued, your supplies low, casualties from guerrillas and NSA/CSA straining your army. Then you face the task of pacifying a nation formed on three peninsulas, one that is largely self sufficient. Oh and, its the Chicago Union, not Union of Chicago.


You seem to forget that I'm not even sending my entire force in the initial wave.

Literally. 1,000,000 out of 3,000,000 militia (which aren't great, no).

And I suspect the Japanese will only arrive a while afterwards.

We aren't going to, necessarily, zerg you. There will be actual tactics.


I am just waiting for the Pacific Union to join so I can have something 'close' to attack. Perhaps I should take Detroit. I mean I live there xD
*Huzzah he lives!*

Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:39 pm

Caltarania wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Bah, By the time you reach Chicago, your men will be fatigued, your supplies low, casualties from guerrillas and NSA/CSA straining your army. Then you face the task of pacifying a nation formed on three peninsulas, one that is largely self sufficient. Oh and, its the Chicago Union, not Union of Chicago.


You seem to forget that I'm not even sending my entire force in the initial wave.

Literally. 1,000,000 out of 3,000,000 militia (which aren't great, no).

And I suspect the Japanese will only arrive a while afterwards.

We aren't going to, necessarily, zerg you. There will be actual tactics.

BUt how many of those are going to be alive when you get to me? How can you support at once? And, all those in one operation? Besides, ill go Thermopylae on you twice, then Marathon you on the third peninsula.
I'm really tired

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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:40 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:
It's not so much to help them as it is to harm you. If you look at my history, you'd notice that my people fought a war to prevent Dutch colonization in my territory. As a result, we aren't too happy about the Dutch being our neighbors, and we'd like nothing more than to remove your presence in Africa, convert your former peoples and gain powerful allies overseas.


And when did I ever agree to having fought a war with you in both our respective?

I don't recall ever doing so.


I'm pulling that from actual history, as the Dutch did colonize the Congo.
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Postby Jamessonia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:41 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
And when did I ever agree to having fought a war with you in both our respective?

I don't recall ever doing so.


I'm pulling that from actual history, as the Dutch Belgians did colonize the Congo.

I believe I fixed it ;)
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:42 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
You seem to forget that I'm not even sending my entire force in the initial wave.

Literally. 1,000,000 out of 3,000,000 militia (which aren't great, no).

And I suspect the Japanese will only arrive a while afterwards.

We aren't going to, necessarily, zerg you. There will be actual tactics.

BUt how many of those are going to be alive when you get to me? How can you support at once? And, all those in one operation? Besides, ill go Thermopylae on you twice, then Marathon you on the third peninsula.


You seem to forget, again, I'm not the only one fighting this war.

I'll be preoccupied with the Confederates and Northeasterns, sure, but then you still have to deal with the Australiens, Russians, Japanese, Charcas and possibly the Iberians (I have sent them a Communique, but eh)
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Postby Pavlostani » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:43 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:
I'm pulling that from actual history, as the Dutch Belgians did colonize the Congo.

I believe I fixed it ;)


Oh, damn, you're right.

My bad, Caltarania, I'll go fix some things.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:44 pm

Caltarania wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:BUt how many of those are going to be alive when you get to me? How can you support at once? And, all those in one operation? Besides, ill go Thermopylae on you twice, then Marathon you on the third peninsula.


You seem to forget, again, I'm not the only one fighting this war.

I'll be preoccupied with the Confederates and Northeasterns, sure, but then you still have to deal with the Australiens, Russians, Japanese, Charcas and possibly the Iberians (I have sent them a Communique, but eh)

Still have hordes of NPCs to subdue before you get to me. Ill be biding my time while you grind through the West.
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Jamessonia
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Postby Jamessonia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:45 pm

Why even bother with the Chicago Union, Calt?
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:46 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:I believe I fixed it ;)


Oh, damn, you're right.

My bad, Caltarania, I'll go fix some things.


Okay, thank you.

Also, they didn't colonize it, they were gifted it in the Congo conference, but it is unlikely that ever happened, also considering that Belgium exists as Flanders in the Dutch Republic and Wallonia in France, so Belgium doesn't exist at this time.

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
You seem to forget, again, I'm not the only one fighting this war.

I'll be preoccupied with the Confederates and Northeasterns, sure, but then you still have to deal with the Australiens, Russians, Japanese, Charcas and possibly the Iberians (I have sent them a Communique, but eh)

Still have hordes of NPCs to subdue before you get to me. Ill be biding my time while you grind through the West.


Once again, the other powers may not even land until I (or we) have defeated them.

Jamessonia wrote:Why even bother with the Chicago Union, Calt?


Japan wants Detroit xD

Joke, but eh.

Because I want to send a message; the New World is weak.
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Postby Jamessonia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:47 pm

It seems like a lot of work for naught. Just leave him to his Midwestern hovel, so long as he doesn't approach New Amsterdam.
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:48 pm

Jamessonia wrote:It seems like a lot of work for naught. Just leave him to his Midwestern hovel, so long as he doesn't approach New Amsterdam.


But he will.

He wouldn't have join the war if he didn't want to expand.

We need to stop that.
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