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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:39 am

Caltarania wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Hell, the Dutch can have that bendy province near Strasbourg. THat fine?
Treaty of Strasbourg
(rough draft, preamble to be added with lots of flowery language)

1. The war alliance composed of the United Provinces of the Dutch Republic or the Netherlands, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland or the UK, Chicago, the Second French Republic or France, and the Austro-German Empire or Austria will make peace with the German Empire, henceforth not to be referred to by that name.

2. The German Empire will henceforth be known internationally and internally both as the North German Confederation, or Germany, informally.

3. <insert Dutch lands paying or whatever>

4. The isles known as the Falkland Islands, composed mainly of the East and West islands of the aforementioned chain, will be ceded to the Netherlands.

5. The corporation known as Krupp will be nationalized and then all assets auctioned off at an appropriate market price where possible, with the remaining unsold goods and the proceeds from the sale to be given to Chicago.

6. The lands known as Alsace-Lorraine or Elsass-Lothringen, two connected areas west of the Rhine and belonging to Germany will be ceded to France unconditionally.

7. All naval vessels and accompanying materiel with military capacity belonging to the government of Germany will be given to the government of the UK, to do with what they wish.

8. All German troops will be withdrawn from lands outside the borders of Germany, including ceded lands.

9. The total armed forces of Germany will not exceed 500,000, including noncombatant companions, sailors and other personnel related to the military.

10. Germany will pay 100,000 goldmarks to each of the combatants mentioned in point 1 of the treaty in cash or any other payment method deemed acceptable by the recipients.

12. Germany accepts full and unconditional responsibility for the European War, the state of war which has existed between the nations listed in point 1 of the treaty, and does hereby ratify this treaty in compensation for the acts committed during the war.


No Poland stuff, because if you want to weaken them, you can do other things; it creates yet another NPC nobody will play, which would not be preferred.

Also, Australie not into Dutch; lessening autonomy is always discontenting.


But I will play them. They will be my puppet, basically.

But no one is playing him. What if there was massive riots, and then we stepped in, looked all badass, and then asked them to join the United Provinces as a Province?

And nah, I don't really wanted provinces in Europe.

I'd really prefer if things that can't be seen on the map aren't ceded; it just makes everything really inconvenient.
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Treaty of Strasbourg
Preamble:
In the light of the recent instability and wars that have swept Europe, the Treaty of Strasbourg aims to first and foremost end the European War, and create widely accepted terms to conclude the conflict, such that peace, prosperity and goodwill may return to the states of Europe and all others involved.

1. The war alliance composed of the United Provinces of the Dutch Republic or the Netherlands, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland or the UK, Chicago, the Second French Republic or France, and the Austro-German Empire or Austria will make peace with the German Empire, henceforth not to be referred to by that name.

2. The German Empire will henceforth be known internationally and internally both as the North German Confederation, or Germany, informally.

3. The area around Danzig, henceforth to be referred to as Gdansk, will be created a new state, the Republic of Poland, with full independence.

4. The isles known as the Falkland Islands, composed mainly of the East and West islands of the aforementioned chain, will be ceded to the Netherlands.

5. The corporation known as Krupp will be nationalized and then all assets auctioned off at an appropriate market price where possible, with the remaining unsold goods and the proceeds from the sale to be given to Chicago.

6. The lands known as Alsace-Lorraine or Elsass-Lothringen, two connected areas west of the Rhine and belonging to Germany will be ceded to France unconditionally.

7. All naval vessels and accompanying materiel with military capacity belonging to the government of Germany will be given to the government of the UK, to do with what they wish.

8. All German troops will be withdrawn from lands outside the borders of Germany, including ceded lands.

9. The total armed forces of Germany will not exceed 500,000, including noncombatant companions, sailors and other personnel related to the military.

10. Germany will pay 100,000 goldmarks to each of the combatants mentioned in point 1 of the treaty in addition to the Republic of Poland in cash or any other payment method deemed acceptable by the recipients.

11. Germany will renounce the right to declare war or similarly hostile actions upon another nation for five years from the signing of this treaty.

12. Germany accepts full and unconditional responsibility for the European War, the state of war which has existed between the nations listed in point 1 of the treaty, and does hereby ratify this treaty in compensation for the acts committed during the war.

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:28 am

I still think the Falklands should go to me, as I was the only one who showed OOC/IC interest in invading the Falklands in the war.
I'm really tired

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:31 am

Mejiko should get at least 1 ship.
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:40 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I still think the Falklands should go to me, as I was the only one who showed OOC/IC interest in invading the Falklands in the war.


In my Operations list, "Operation Fallen Angel" was an operation that was the 'liberation' of the Falklands. I have shown interest in them.
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Altito Asmoro
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:57 am

Alleniana wrote:So, Krys, Inesea, Calt and Altito need to approve Treaty du Strasbourg. Oui or non?

Oui
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:17 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Alleniana wrote:So, Krys, Inesea, Calt and Altito need to approve Treaty du Strasbourg. Oui or non?

Oui

Oui, but I think Chicago should into Falklands
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Savedland
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Postby Savedland » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:00 am

'Noticed discussion about the falklands'

*cough* *cough*


Um.... Hello?!



(<=ES ARGENTINA)
Last edited by Savedland on Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:01 am, edited 2 times in total.
The United Federated Districts of Hevora. Or Savedland, as it is often hideously anglicized...

We are a large, free, powerful and beautiful country with a very long history that stretches back thousands upon thousands of years.

We are a union of many nations and cultures. The most dominant and shared by almost everyone is that of the Hevoran (Savedlish) People. It has its roots lying in an ancient creole culture that emerged from extensive contact between a bronze age hellenic and norse civilization which evolved convergeantly on an fictional, alternate universe Earth.

Bit weird, I know. But we're a lovely culture if you care enough to get to know us! :D

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Postby Kryskov » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:02 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Alleniana wrote:So, Krys, Inesea, Calt and Altito need to approve Treaty du Strasbourg. Oui or non?

Oui

I'd want to make an independent Saarland.

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:27 am

Savedland wrote:'Noticed discussion about the falklands'

*cough* *cough*


Um.... Hello?!



(<=ES ARGENTINA)


Literally the main reason that I want them. If I can't have them, then the UK can.
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:32 am

Caltarania wrote:
Savedland wrote:'Noticed discussion about the falklands'

*cough* *cough*


Um.... Hello?!



(<=ES ARGENTINA)


Literally the main reason that I want them. If I can't have them, then the UK can.

Argentina and the Dutch can have a war.
I'm really tired

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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:33 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Literally the main reason that I want them. If I can't have them, then the UK can.

Argentina and the Dutch can have a war.


And Chicago will greatly profit :P
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Savedland
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Postby Savedland » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:36 am

Oh my...

*hyperventilates*
The United Federated Districts of Hevora. Or Savedland, as it is often hideously anglicized...

We are a large, free, powerful and beautiful country with a very long history that stretches back thousands upon thousands of years.

We are a union of many nations and cultures. The most dominant and shared by almost everyone is that of the Hevoran (Savedlish) People. It has its roots lying in an ancient creole culture that emerged from extensive contact between a bronze age hellenic and norse civilization which evolved convergeantly on an fictional, alternate universe Earth.

Bit weird, I know. But we're a lovely culture if you care enough to get to know us! :D

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:37 am

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Argentina and the Dutch can have a war.


And Chicago will greatly profit :P

Of course.
I'm really tired

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:52 am

Speaking of which, I also desire several German naval vessels.
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Savedland
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Postby Savedland » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:22 am

well... in case of a war. who would be willing to take the argentine side?
The United Federated Districts of Hevora. Or Savedland, as it is often hideously anglicized...

We are a large, free, powerful and beautiful country with a very long history that stretches back thousands upon thousands of years.

We are a union of many nations and cultures. The most dominant and shared by almost everyone is that of the Hevoran (Savedlish) People. It has its roots lying in an ancient creole culture that emerged from extensive contact between a bronze age hellenic and norse civilization which evolved convergeantly on an fictional, alternate universe Earth.

Bit weird, I know. But we're a lovely culture if you care enough to get to know us! :D

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Postby Aldelxane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:36 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Alleniana wrote: :p
Only sorta.

So, are all content? Treaty of Strasbourg, perhaps, Elsass-Lothringen to Frankreich, the navee to Britannia rules the seas, Falklands the bald man's comb to the Dutch, and various machines and monies and other looties to Chicago?

I want ownership of Krupp, Steyr-mannerlicher, and mauser.

You guys realize you are creating the Weimar Republic? Do you remember how that ended?

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:39 am

Aldelxane wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I want ownership of Krupp, Steyr-mannerlicher, and mauser.

You guys realize you are creating the Weimar Republic? Do you remember how that ended?

With American ascendency over Europe?
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Postby Aldelxane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:41 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:You guys realize you are creating the Weimar Republic? Do you remember how that ended?

With American ascendency over Europe?

Yes, but first we had Hitler and WWII. Tens of millions of lives lost.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:43 am

Aldelxane wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:With American ascendency over Europe?

Yes, but first we had Hitler and WWII. Tens of millions of lives lost.


Well, if the victors don't ask for war reparations, things would be much different.
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:43 am

Aldelxane wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I want ownership of Krupp, Steyr-mannerlicher, and mauser.

You guys realize you are creating the Weimar Republic? Do you remember how that ended?


We do OOC, but IC we don't.

IC, what we are doing has no consequence as far as we are concerned.
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Postby Kryskov » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:44 am

Aldelxane wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:With American ascendency over Europe?

Yes, but first we had Hitler and WWII. Tens of millions of lives lost.

There's a number of factors that led to that, establishing Weimar means nothing. If we do not adopt any sort of appeasement stance, we could easily stop any sort of arms advancement.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:44 am

Aldelxane wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:With American ascendency over Europe?

Yes, but first we had Hitler and WWII. Tens of millions of lives lost.

Mostly in Europe. Of no concern to Chicago if it happens again.
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Postby Aldelxane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:44 am

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Yes, but first we had Hitler and WWII. Tens of millions of lives lost.


Well, if the victors don't ask for war reparations, things would be much different.

Yes, and that's exactly what the victors are doing.

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Postby Aldelxane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:45 am

Caltarania wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:You guys realize you are creating the Weimar Republic? Do you remember how that ended?


We do OOC, but IC we don't.

IC, what we are doing has no consequence as far as we are concerned.

Honestly that's the best argument I've heard so far.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:47 am

Aldelxane wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Well, if the victors don't ask for war reparations, things would be much different.

Yes, and that's exactly what the victors are doing.


Ah. Well, it's up to them then.

Colombia is all cozy here in South America :)
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