New Imperialism - AH RP v 1.1 [OOC, Signup]

[Valentir]

Should I wait until these disputes are resolved for me to make an app? Also, just for future reference, what countries are open and what is the situation in the world? I plan on going back and reading the IC later, but a quick rundown would be nice until then.

[Galter Gulcher]

I rise to defend myself in face of these allegations

1) The reason I dont post casualties, is because thats not my job. Allen is OP, and thus writes the situations aswell as casualties and such of the battlefield. IIRC, the Coalition members do not post there casualties, of witch there should be many. Thus, why should I post mine. But otherwise, it makes no sense to think I have not accepted I have taken casualties. In war, that would only be silly. Were have I said that I have not taken casualties?

2) I accept the fact that I am outnumbered, when have I ever not. Numbers don't matter, its the strategical situation that does.

3) Surrounded? I beg otherwise, AA... its your army on the Western Front that will be surrounded in my Calvary charge, unless you find some way to stop it.

4) I have not lost the war, in fact if anything I am winning.

5) I am not responsible for other players leaving. That is on there own accord, I did not force them to leave.

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1. Al, I don’t like to beat a dead horse, but you don’t address this shit.

2.Tell that to the Chinese Human Wave against Japan.

3.Surrounding your opponents with an inferior number of forces has only been done once. It may never be replicated.

4.The Indirect effects of the war like inflation says other wise.

5.Directly nope. Indirectly yes. You’re like me, only with more insults, worse grammar, and worse roleplaying.

1. Al, I truly hope that you, in fact I know that you are wise enough to know the truth in this case.

2. Human Waves are not on topic, they really arent all that good of a tactic because every shot it practically guranteed to hit.

3. Watch me.

4. Those indirect effects of war like inflation happen elsewere also, History 101.

5. see edit.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

1. Al, I don’t like to beat a dead horse, but you don’t address this shit.

2.Tell that to the Chinese Human Wave against Japan.

3.Surrounding your opponents with an inferior number of forces has only been done once. It may never be replicated.

4.The Indirect effects of the war like inflation says other wise.

5.Directly nope. Indirectly yes. You’re like me, only with more insults, worse grammar, and worse roleplaying.

1. Al, I truly hope that you, in fact I know that you are wise enough to know the truth in this case.

2. Human Waves are not on topic, they really arent all that good of a tactic because every shot it practically guranteed to hit.

3. Watch me.

4. Those indirect effects of war like inflation happen elsewere also, History 101.

5. see edit.

1.Haha. no.

2. You said "numbers don’t matter" it did when the Chinese outnumbered the Japs 10:1 and defeated them in a war of attrition.

3.4,000 Surrounding 155,000? It could happen. If those 155,000 happen to be retarded, drunk, and high at the same time.

4.Fine. A tactical retreat is not a show of weakness. You lost some of your men through policing south Germany while the Austrians lost fuck all. Brittania is advancing, the Dutch and the Chicagoans are advancing.

5.Oh I forgot. More arrogant, More annoying.

[Galter Gulcher]

1. Al, I truly hope that you, in fact I know that you are wise enough to know the truth in this case.

2. Human Waves are not on topic, they really arent all that good of a tactic because every shot it practically guranteed to hit.

3. Watch me.

4. Those indirect effects of war like inflation happen elsewere also, History 101.

5. see edit.

1.Haha. no.

2. You said "numbers don’t matter" it did when the Chinese outnumbered the Japs 10:1 and defeated them in a war of attrition.

3.4,000 Surrounding 155,000? It could happen. If those 155,000 happen to be retarded, drunk, and high at the same time.

4.Fine. A tactical retreat is not a show of weakness. You lost some of your men through policing south Germany while the Austrians lost fuck all. Brittania is advancing, the Dutch and the Chicagoans are advancing.

5.Oh I forgot. More arrogant, More annoying.

1. Dont insult Allens inteligence.

2. Right, but in this case, Britain does not outnumber us 10:1. They barley outnumber us, while we outgun there artillery.

3. 4,000 to secure the flanks..... And then suround once there weakend by Artillery fire, without being able to shoot back.

4. Advancing? I think not, I would really be interested in grasping the logic used here, please continue.

5. And you say I insult. Your not really one to talk on the subject of being annoying.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Alright, alright alright. Now I know that I am not the most seasoned RPer in this thread. Obviously that's Allen. But, I know most of you, either from recently or from long ago. that includes AA, Hannover, Mish, GG, Allen, etc. Now, I'm sick of reading this. I got off and haven't been on 3 pages ago. I thought I'd come home and read something valuable but instead I read just constant arguing and then more debating. I'm sick of both sides arguing and I don't recognize either of being right or wrong in any way, but here's what needs to be done, and I will not budge until otherwise is. I think, for the good of the RP, no one else should either.

-No more of these argument numbered lists. Numbered lists are made to answer questions and such of RPing, not used to argue about your arguments. (I know that sounded corny) But really, stop using numbered lists to further your argument

-Both sides are not right. GG is not right because he is trying to defend a point that, well in most ways should be RPed correctly. In RP's normally at least, both sides estimate approximate casualties. This is not the OP's job. If every battle, the OP had to figure the casualties, the RP would take months if not years. To much everyone else's dismay, GG is not the only one who is wrong. I purely myself can say I'm not wrong because A. I haven't been involved with this thread post-wise, just monitoring it reading wise. And B. Because I have not taken a side. Most of you have whether you've thought so or not. As much as GG could be said as the only one at fault, Arguing with GG will not make it better. He has antagonized some, and maybe some he started arguments with. But you should not try and argue back. Simply do as I do, and try and explain things rationally. I am a very calm and collective person, and have been described as able to moderate and solve problems effectively. Now then, GG has, as I said above, done some questionable things with the whole garrison argument and such, but everyone has. Consider this:
-GG claims the garrison argument. Maybe the style RP he does is different from yours. There are a lot of different ways to RP. Consider that maybe both of the sides are just different (Mainly GG, and other side) But your ways of RP are different
-GG claims the casualty argument. Again, consider in RPs he's been in the OP decides all casualties.
-GG is outnumbered. GG, consider the fact maybe you are a bit nervous because you made the wrong move as your country. This is OK, we all make mistakes, even in RPing. Consider that giving up and surrendering instead of continuing a IC and also OOC fight will not help things. Also consider the experiences of the other people who left Partially, but not limited to Because of you. Know I'm not mad at you, just trying to help.
-Other side, consider the spot GG's in, also consider he has only 1000 posts and may or may not have just joined NS. Also consider the other facts; Whether he's new to RPing or not, he's in a pickle. He made a mistake and either doesn't want to admit he did or doesn't want to succumb to loss. We've all been there in RPing and in arguments. Both sides need to stop being so harsh. As we've all been in a difficult situation before. This is not life threatening, this is not a crisis. This is NS, this is Roleplay. Now, let's try and get along, considering both sides have strengthened the argument to continue, also that Allen cannot take a side, as he's OP, a third party, such as myself needs to step in sometimes, and also consider that I do know a thing or to about what I'm talking about. I have been described by both people in lower and higher grades than me (Even though I am a freshman) As being a Junior Psychologist of sorts. People tell me I've help to solve their problems. Just thought I could help. I hope this helps, and hope we can agree to put the terms above ^ Behind us, and just continue the RP and try and sort things out in this disastrous war of both IC and OOC. Thank You.

[Galter Gulcher]

Alright, alright alright. Now I know that I am not the most seasoned RPer in this thread. Obviously that's Allen. But, I know most of you, either from recently or from long ago. that includes AA, Hannover, Mish, GG, Allen, etc. Now, I'm sick of reading this. I got off and haven't been on 3 pages ago. I thought I'd come home and read something valuable but instead I read just constant arguing and then more debating. I'm sick of both sides arguing and I don't recognize either of being right or wrong in any way, but here's what needs to be done, and I will not budge until otherwise is. I think, for the good of the RP, no one else should either.

-No more of these argument numbered lists. Numbered lists are made to answer questions and such of RPing, not used to argue about your arguments. (I know that sounded corny) But really, stop using numbered lists to further your argument

-Both sides are not right. GG is not right because he is trying to defend a point that, well in most ways should be RPed correctly. In RP's normally at least, both sides estimate approximate casualties. This is not the OP's job. If every battle, the OP had to figure the casualties, the RP would take months if not years. To much everyone else's dismay, GG is not the only one who is wrong. I purely myself can say I'm not wrong because A. I haven't been involved with this thread post-wise, just monitoring it reading wise. And B. Because I have not taken a side. Most of you have whether you've thought so or not. As much as GG could be said as the only one at fault, Arguing with GG will not make it better. He has antagonized some, and maybe some he started arguments with. But you should not try and argue back. Simply do as I do, and try and explain things rationally. I am a very calm and collective person, and have been described as able to moderate and solve problems effectively. Now then, GG has, as I said above, done some questionable things with the whole garrison argument and such, but everyone has. Consider this:
-GG claims the garrison argument. Maybe the style RP he does is different from yours. There are a lot of different ways to RP. Consider that maybe both of the sides are just different (Mainly GG, and other side) But your ways of RP are different
-GG claims the casualty argument. Again, consider in RPs he's been in the OP decides all casualties.
-GG is outnumbered. GG, consider the fact maybe you are a bit nervous because you made the wrong move as your country. This is OK, we all make mistakes, even in RPing. Consider that giving up and surrendering instead of continuing a IC and also OOC fight will not help things. Also consider the experiences of the other people who left Partially, but not limited to Because of you. Know I'm not mad at you, just trying to help.
-Other side, consider the spot GG's in, also consider he has only 1000 posts and may or may not have just joined NS. Also consider the other facts; Whether he's new to RPing or not, he's in a pickle. He made a mistake and either doesn't want to admit he did or doesn't want to succumb to loss. We've all been there in RPing and in arguments. Both sides need to stop being so harsh. As we've all been in a difficult situation before. This is not life threatening, this is not a crisis. This is NS, this is Roleplay. Now, let's try and get along, considering both sides have strengthened the argument to continue, also that Allen cannot take a side, as he's OP, a third party, such as myself needs to step in sometimes, and also consider that I do know a thing or to about what I'm talking about. I have been described by both people in lower and higher grades than me (Even though I am a freshman) As being a Junior Psychologist of sorts. People tell me I've help to solve their problems. Just thought I could help. I hope this helps, and hope we can agree to put the terms above ^ Behind us, and just continue the RP and try and sort things out in this disastrous war of both IC and OOC. Thank You.

[Kryskov]

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It is never a question of "should we put up with a newbie player?" It should always be "is the newbie player suited to RP a certain country?" Considering that I am in the same situation as you, Vak, having not been so invested in the OOC, I would have to disagree with you. I would like to see a more seasoned player come in and take over Germany.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

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It is never a question of "should we put up with a newbie player?" It should always be "is the newbie player suited to RP a certain country?" Considering that I am in the same situation as you, Vak, having not been so invested in the OOC, I would have to disagree with you. I would like to see a more seasoned player come in and take over Germany.

I'm not saying we shouldn't ask GG to maybe switch countries. But we also shouldn't say he should either. I do believe that if now that GG has agreed to my terms of agreement, if the others do as well, we can talk about a way we can have Germany submit surrender, and GG would be able to switch to a semi-minor role but still important nation. In this way, GG still controls something he wants, only now he gets a second chance from his mistakes as Germany. GG I hope you're reading this, as I'm trying to help both.

[Altito Asmoro]

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It is never a question of "should we put up with a newbie player?" It should always be "is the newbie player suited to RP a certain country?" Considering that I am in the same situation as you, Vak, having not been so invested in the OOC, I would have to disagree with you. I would like to see a more seasoned player come in and take over Germany.

I second this. To put it simply, all of the major powers in Europe except for Germany, are controlled by experienced players that I know.

[Aldelxane]

It is never a question of "should we put up with a newbie player?" It should always be "is the newbie player suited to RP a certain country?" Considering that I am in the same situation as you, Vak, having not been so invested in the OOC, I would have to disagree with you. I would like to see a more seasoned player come in and take over Germany.

I second this. To put it simply, all of the major powers in Europe except for Germany, are controlled by experienced players that I know.

I personally think it's less newness and more trustworthiness and responsibility....

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

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It is never a question of "should we put up with a newbie player?" It should always be "is the newbie player suited to RP a certain country?" Considering that I am in the same situation as you, Vak, having not been so invested in the OOC, I would have to disagree with you. I would like to see a more seasoned player come in and take over Germany.

I could be Germany

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

It is never a question of "should we put up with a newbie player?" It should always be "is the newbie player suited to RP a certain country?" Considering that I am in the same situation as you, Vak, having not been so invested in the OOC, I would have to disagree with you. I would like to see a more seasoned player come in and take over Germany.

I could be Germany

I will stay as Colombia

[Aldelxane]

I could be Germany

I will stay as Colombia

Not even the prospect of roleplaying the powerful Germany can part Hannover from his beloved Colombia!

[Galter Gulcher]

It is never a question of "should we put up with a newbie player?" It should always be "is the newbie player suited to RP a certain country?" Considering that I am in the same situation as you, Vak, having not been so invested in the OOC, I would have to disagree with you. I would like to see a more seasoned player come in and take over Germany.

I'm not saying we shouldn't ask GG to maybe switch countries. But we also shouldn't say he should either. I do believe that if now that GG has agreed to my terms of agreement, if the others do as well, we can talk about a way we can have Germany submit surrender, and GG would be able to switch to a semi-minor role but still important nation. In this way, GG still controls something he wants, only now he gets a second chance from his mistakes as Germany. GG I hope you're reading this, as I'm trying to help both.

No, I am not surrendering.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

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I will stay as Colombia

Not even the prospect of roleplaying the powerful Germany can part Hannover from his beloved Colombia!

The drama...Too much for me. It affects my interior peace

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

I'm not saying we shouldn't ask GG to maybe switch countries. But we also shouldn't say he should either. I do believe that if now that GG has agreed to my terms of agreement, if the others do as well, we can talk about a way we can have Germany submit surrender, and GG would be able to switch to a semi-minor role but still important nation. In this way, GG still controls something he wants, only now he gets a second chance from his mistakes as Germany. GG I hope you're reading this, as I'm trying to help both.

No, I am not surrendering.

RIP Germany

[Galter Gulcher]

No, I am not surrendering.

RIP Germany

You dont seriously still belive victory is yours?

[Aldelxane]

Is everyone ok with me creating a long IC post on the surrender of NPC CSA after the Marylander rebels and Northeastern soldiers triumph, and the creation of Maryland as an independent republic? I want to get the war finished.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Is everyone ok with me creating a long IC post on the surrender of NPC CSA after the Marylander rebels and Northeastern soldiers triumph, and the creation of Maryland as an independent republic? I want to get the war finished.

What happened to the player RPing the CSA?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

RIP Germany

You dont seriously still belive victory is yours?

Victory will go to us. Also, your artillery doesn't out range the British guns effective range.

[Aldelxane]

Is everyone ok with me creating a long IC post on the surrender of NPC CSA after the Marylander rebels and Northeastern soldiers triumph, and the creation of Maryland as an independent republic? I want to get the war finished.

What happened to the player RPing the CSA?

He's been inactive for weeks, Allen declared him an NPC.

Edit: He last posted on a NS thread on January 18th.

[Galter Gulcher]

You dont seriously still belive victory is yours?

Victory will go to us. Also, your artillery doesn't out range the British guns effective range.

You read Allens posts correct aswell as the war posts?

[Kryskov]

Victory will go to us. Also, your artillery doesn't out range the British guns effective range.

You read Allens posts correct aswell as the war posts?

I was gonna say something, but I was unsure about what guns were being used. I do know that the British kept up fairly well with the Krupp guns.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Victory will go to us. Also, your artillery doesn't out range the British guns effective range.

You read Allens posts correct aswell as the war posts?

Yes. Your goals for the assigned troops are ridiculous. And the 7.7cm FK has an effective range of 5,500 meters. The BL 15 and 5.4 inch cap out at 6k meters.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

I could be Germany

I will stay as Colombia

Yeah I'm surrendering all of Panama to you so that I can put all my undivided attention to the civil war.,