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Emilio Aguinaldo
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:36 pm

Reatra wrote:Really, we don't care, as long as they don't revolt and give us their resources to fuel our industries and a small tax, just enough to cover the cost of actually having them, then they can do whatever.

That's a bad idea. Autonomy is never a good idea. Just look at IRL Spain.
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Postby Reatra » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:37 pm

Well, apparently occupation isn't working either.


Puppet?
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:38 pm

Reatra wrote:Well, apparently occupation isn't working either.


Puppet?

Puppet is the best one, just give them the illusion of freedom. However, if they find out, you;re in deep shit.
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:39 pm

Reatra wrote:Really, we don't care, as long as they don't revolt and give us their resources to fuel our industries and a small tax, just enough to cover the cost of actually having them, then they can do whatever.

What resources? Apart from sort of half-decent amounts of oil in Oman, which I think you have enough of anyway, there's nothing really there but pissed off people.

They're gonna keep revolting; like, terrorism, constantly.
Reatra wrote:Well, apparently occupation isn't working either.


Puppet?

You've kinda alienated them by moving tens of thousands of troops in, who've basically eaten and looted everything.

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Postby Axonic » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:40 pm

Well, My Military if Invaded would be, 3,000,000 at home and near my territory, and 600,000 in Lands far, far, away.
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Postby Reatra » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:41 pm

Let me think about this.... I can move the troops in and obliterate all resistance.... Or I can move the troops out and have them be a puppet. BECAUSE I AM NOT LETTING THEM GO!
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:42 pm

Reatra wrote:Let me think about this.... I can move the troops in and obliterate all resistance.... Or I can move the troops out and have them be a puppet. BECAUSE I AM NOT LETTING THEM GO!

You know what's the best option? Kill them all then transplant your own people there!
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:43 pm

Alleniana wrote:
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Nation Name: Constitutional Monarchy of the Colombo-Peruvian Empire (Kingdom of Colombia-Peru)
Symbols: Flag and Coat of Arms
Population: 12,845,000 (as of 1900)
Location/Claims: Gran Colombia and Peru.
Capital City: Bogota
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Ideology: Liberty, Order, Capitalism with South American characteristics, Diplomacy.
Leader/s: Mario A. Sanz
Economy: The country's economy has experienced rapid growth since the application of new economic and social reforms in 1870. The Banking and Currency reforms truly, positively impacted the country since it brought investments to the economy and confidence in its stability. Industries have flourished in the Andes, Pacifico, and Caribe regions- arms factories, food processing plants, cash-crops processing plants, iron-ore factories, and cotton mills have sprung up throughout these regions. In other regions, industries have grown but more concentrated in certain spots (especially in regional-capital cities). In the other regions of the country, industry has been focused in major cities as well as strategic places. The country overall is considered as semi-industrialized in World standards, however economists highlight the rapid industrialization and the high growth rate, and predict a future full of opportunity for the country.

Thanks to new technologies and past experiences, this country has become one of the major producers, in the region, of agricultural resources as well as cash crops. This has given Colombia a strategic position in the global markets. The food output has set the basis for a demographic boom in the country. Cash crops have given Colombia a solid source of income to power its growth (along with the industries). And minerals in the country have given the energy and resources needed to continue its industrial expansion. With the discovery of vasts amounts of coal, the country became not only the energy source of its own industries, but also to many others around the world (bringing wealth and prestige to the country).

Infrastructure: The country's infrastructure is very developed in the industrial zones, but it isn't as advanced in other areas. One of the greatest achievements of the government was to be able to communicate all the regions of the country with railroads- creating an essential link which has kept all the territories under direct communication from the central government. The road system of the country is also very developed, but only in the industrial regions of the country; in other underdeveloped regions, infrastructure dates back 30-40 years.

Army: 135,000 Active (45,000 Reserve).

The Colombian Army rapidly modernized after the treaties signed with Austria, Prussia, and the Ottoman Empire. European tactics were brought to the country and adapted to the environment. The modernization of the armament also came about thanks to the purchase of arms from Austria, Great Britain, Egypt, and Bavaria. Currently, the Military Academy works intensively to develop unique tactics based on the factors of weather, geography, and vegetation of the country.

Navy: 50,000 Active (15,000 Reserves).

The Colombian Navy rapidly modernized along with the army. The Navy brought tactics from Austria and the Ottoman Empire and adapted them to the environment and factors of the country's seas. With the increment in trade, the government placed more attention on the modernization of the Navy's arsenal. Purchases from Austria, the Ottoman Empire, and Britain helped Colombia established a solid navy.

Goals: "Diplomacy is the solution" -> Colombia's interests will be to pursuit trade, investment, and good relations with other countries.

History: After the successful independence from Spain, Colombia began working towards building a stable, healthy society. However, the country suffered a temporal break up and Colombia lost Venezuela and Ecuador in the process. During the 1870's Colombia was able to conquer back Venezuela and Ecuador- the opportunity rose after the harsh economic conditions and inefficiency of those governments settled in the minds of the people. Mr. Sanz, the President at the time, established a Constitutional Monarchy (with the approval of a referendum) in order to bring more stability to the central government. Thanks to the successful recovery of all of its territories and the successful establishment of economic reforms in 1870, Colombia was able to gain an influential role in South America. This helped Colombia become closer to Peru, which was suffering political instability at the time. After a successful conservative revolution in Peru, the country set up a Monarchy. A diplomatic marriage between Sanz and the Queen of Peru created a dual monarchy that united Peru and the Gran Colombia. From 1872 to 1874, both countries were united through the diplomatic marriage (with both countries having different constitutions), however after Sanz fell deeply sick (and almost dies) prominent politicians saw the weakness of such political union. In 1875, both countries were joined politically through a treaty negotiated by both governments- the treaty called for the creation of a single constitution and government. At the end of 1875, both territories approved through a referendum the Constitution which effectively replaced a Dual-Monarchy with a single monarchy and a single government.

Part of the history of the country is based on the 1870 RP in which I RP with Colombia as well.

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Good, good. FIne for me. 1870 :D


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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:43 pm

Axonic wrote:Well, My Military if Invaded would be, 3,000,000 at home and near my territory, and 600,000 in Lands far, far, away.

The 3 mil would be the equivalent of the Volkstrum.
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:43 pm

Reatra wrote:Let me think about this.... I can move the troops in and obliterate all resistance.... Or I can move the troops out and have them be a puppet. BECAUSE I AM NOT LETTING THEM GO!

Obliterate all resistance = genocide
Genocide is expensive ;) much more valuable than the piddly Omani oils

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:45 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Reatra wrote:Let me think about this.... I can move the troops in and obliterate all resistance.... Or I can move the troops out and have them be a puppet. BECAUSE I AM NOT LETTING THEM GO!

Obliterate all resistance = genocide
Genocide is expensive ;) much more valuable than the piddly Omani oils

Tell that to the Ottomans. They made an inexpensive way to do it.
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:45 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Reatra wrote:Let me think about this.... I can move the troops in and obliterate all resistance.... Or I can move the troops out and have them be a puppet. BECAUSE I AM NOT LETTING THEM GO!

You know what's the best option? Kill them all then transplant your own people there!


I'm sorry, did you say Roman Colonization?
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:47 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:You know what's the best option? Kill them all then transplant your own people there!


I'm sorry, did you say Roman Colonization?

No Roman Colonization would be raising their children as your own.
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Postby Axonic » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:47 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Axonic wrote:Well, My Military if Invaded would be, 3,000,000 at home and near my territory, and 600,000 in Lands far, far, away.

The 3 mil would be the equivalent of the Volkstrum.


Are you talking about the Vulkssturm?
If so, it would be 590,640 men, not 3 Million.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:48 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:To Hannover, I may not be a superpower, but I'm a continental power.
Also, I did the math in my maximum number of troops if I get invaded. 1,150,000 men.


Ok. I will not argue against that. You are a regional power.
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:49 pm

Axonic wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:The 3 mil would be the equivalent of the Volkstrum.


Are you talking about the Vulkssturm?
If so, it would be 590,640 men, not 3 Million.

By equivalent, I meant training wise. "Grab your gun, point it at bad guy, pull trigger."
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Postby Reatra » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:49 pm

So Genocide? Hmmm.....
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:50 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Alleniana wrote:
Good, good. FIne for me. 1870 :D


Thanks! :hug:


Also, are those grey regions I colored, mine or of another player?
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:50 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Obliterate all resistance = genocide
Genocide is expensive ;) much more valuable than the piddly Omani oils

Tell that to the Ottomans. They made an inexpensive way to do it.

They're the Ottomans. :p They're special.

And anyway, they did it in a very decentralized way, and a very tolerant one too; after all, they both follow Sunni Islam, speak middle-eastern languages, etc. etc.

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:You know what's the best option? Kill them all then transplant your own people there!


I'm sorry, did you say Roman Colonization?

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Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Axonic wrote:
Are you talking about the Vulkssturm?
If so, it would be 590,640 men, not 3 Million.

By equivalent, I meant training wise. "Grab your gun, point it at bad guy, pull trigger."

Ehehe

By the way, guys, the figures I put out were ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM. It WILL destroy and obliterate your economy, drive revolt likeliness and prices through the roof, piss EVERYONE off, and screw you over almost certainly.

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Emilio Aguinaldo
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:52 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:Tell that to the Ottomans. They made an inexpensive way to do it.

They're the Ottomans. :p They're special.

And anyway, they did it in a very decentralized way, and a very tolerant one too; after all, they both follow Sunni Islam, speak middle-eastern languages, etc. etc.


Ottoman: "Sir, you will escorted out of your home and be killed."
Armenian: "No, I don't like."
Ottoman: "Okay sir. Have a nice day. See you tomorrow."
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:55 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
Alleniana wrote:They're the Ottomans. :p They're special.

And anyway, they did it in a very decentralized way, and a very tolerant one too; after all, they both follow Sunni Islam, speak middle-eastern languages, etc. etc.


Ottoman: "Sir, you will escorted out of your home and be killed."
Armenian: "No, I don't like."
Ottoman: "Okay sir. Have a nice day. See you tomorrow."

:lol2:

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Postby Reatra » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:58 pm

OMG! What if I became semi-fascist. I can genocide Oman and Somalia! Should I?
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:59 pm

Reatra wrote:OMG! What if I became semi-fascist. I can genocide Oman and Somalia! Should I?

You can already genocide them...
Not that it'd do you much good, but you could

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:59 pm

Reatra wrote:OMG! What if I became semi-fascist. I can genocide Oman and Somalia! Should I?

Fascism=/=genocide.
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Postby Reatra » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:01 am

I know that, but when I thought of Genocide I instinctively thought of Fascism.
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