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Daxe
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Postby Daxe » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:30 am

Jetan wrote:
Daxe wrote:Anarchy is a political system that delete the State as a coercive kind of structure. Anarchy disposes of a federal structure that it can assures the national cohesion.

That doesn't answer my question. If you are an anarchy, you are not a state, and thus you have no way of controlling those far off territories.

If I'm not a state, that doesn't signifies that I'm not a country. :palm:

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Postby Arkolon » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:41 am

Daxe wrote:
Jetan wrote:That doesn't answer my question. If you are an anarchy, you are not a state, and thus you have no way of controlling those far off territories.

If I'm not a state, that doesn't signifies that I'm not a country. :palm:


If there's no state, who is controlling the army?
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Postby Daxe » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:47 am

Arkolon wrote:
Daxe wrote:If I'm not a state, that doesn't signifies that I'm not a country. :palm:


If there's no state, who is controlling the army?

An office composed of a milita army.

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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:54 am

You can't maintain an empire with strong central authority. That's a given.
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Postby Daxe » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:59 am

Uieurnthlaal wrote:You can't maintain an empire with strong central authority. That's a given.

Ok, I understand. I will not use the anarchy ideology for my country... I don't want to be destroyed. And I want to keep Singapore and Hong Kong safe. :)

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Postby Arkolon » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:05 am

Daxe wrote:
Uieurnthlaal wrote:You can't maintain an empire with strong central authority. That's a given.

Ok, I understand. I will not use the anarchy ideology for my country... I don't want to be destroyed. And I want to keep Singapore and Hong Kong safe. :)


Try minarchy. It's good for the economy, brings in loads of money but there will be a large jump in inequality, most probably. It's a state that supplies only a police force, army, legislature, administration and fire department (no free schools, no free healthcare etc).
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:08 am

Arkolon wrote:
Daxe wrote:Ok, I understand. I will not use the anarchy ideology for my country... I don't want to be destroyed. And I want to keep Singapore and Hong Kong safe. :)


Try minarchy. It's good for the economy, brings in loads of money but there will be a large jump in inequality, most probably. It's a state that supplies only a police force, army, legislature, administration and fire department (no free schools, no free healthcare etc).


Inequality makes for terrible long-term growth. And without their world-class school systems, Singapore and Hong Kong would be in a terrible position.
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Postby Daxe » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:09 am

Arkolon wrote:
Daxe wrote:Ok, I understand. I will not use the anarchy ideology for my country... I don't want to be destroyed. And I want to keep Singapore and Hong Kong safe. :)


Try minarchy. It's good for the economy, brings in loads of money but there will be a large jump in inequality, most probably. It's a state that supplies only a police force, army, legislature, administration and fire department (no free schools, no free healthcare etc).

I will try jacobinism, because it seems to be good.

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Postby Ragnarum » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:12 am

State capitalism with a few well placed sprinklings of socialism.
That is all.


Ragnarum moves a force from the new colony of Tunisia down to secure Morocco, taking the coastline as they go.
Seeing the other half of Italy sat there nicely unclaimed, Ragnarum decides that it needs somewhere more sunnier and closer to home (that's a claim).
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Postby Daxe » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:16 am

Ragnarum wrote:State capitalism with a few well placed sprinklings of socialism.

That is all.

Yes: jacobinism.

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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:19 am

Uieurnthlaal claims the Caribbean Islands of Cuba and Hispaniola.
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Postby Ragnarum » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:19 am

Daxe wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:State capitalism with a few well placed sprinklings of socialism.

That is all.

Yes: jacobinism.


That isn't state capitalism.
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Postby Jetan » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:25 am

Since we're announcing our economic systems, regulated capitalism is the way to go.
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Postby Renetopia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:03 am

You guys hate me, don't you?

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Postby Daxe » Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:17 am

Renetopia wrote:You guys hate me, don't you?

xDDDDDD

Renetopia, I lost Svalbard, so there is my new claim:

Newfoundland and Labrador, Singapore, Hong-Kong

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Postby Ragnarum » Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:19 am

Ragnarum moves a force from the new colony of Tunisia down to secure Morocco, taking the coastline as they go.
Seeing the other half of Italy sat there nicely unclaimed, Ragnarum decides that it needs somewhere more sunnier and closer to home (that's a claim).


Thats mine for today.
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Ragnarum is not communist or even particularly socialist, just so you know.

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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:25 am

And here's mine:


Jetan wrote:With the spheres of influence with Jefferson agreed, The empire sends both troops and diplomats to Alaska, and the Hawai islands. All of Alaska, and all of the islands in the Hawaii Islands except for O'ahu, Maui and Hawai'i are incorporated into the Empire. The Pearl Harbor base area on O'ahu is also annexed by Jetan as per the agreement with Jefferson. In the case of the Hawaii Islands, this was mostly a diplomatic effort, and in the case of Alaska, just sort of take over, as there is little population left, and that little was not organised. People will be needed from other parts of the empire, to take full advantage of the natural resources of Alaska.



Elsewhere in the empire, first Jetanese satellites after the collapse have been launched. The operation has mostly been a succes, altought one of the satellites was damaged in a failed launch, and needs repair to reach operational status again.
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Postby Indian Empire » Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:51 am

Can I have most of West Africa Please, Or, is that too large of a claim?
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Renetopia
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Postby Renetopia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:04 am

Polish Peoples wrote:
Can you add a naval line for Poland over the Black sea?
And on other news Poland completes the small aircraft carriers and the 5 cruisers.
Now the navy is properly equipped with stronger forces and can face more serious dangers.
And Romania was rebuilt bring it to an average Polish status which increased population and the rebel group know as Black death was killed off and the threat is gone.

Those aren't naval lines. Those black lines are used when nations control small islands either too small to see correctly, or to show who do they belong to.

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Postby Renetopia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:09 am

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
The British Gumpurt wrote:
If he doesn't i will..


War should never be a first resort.

Ah, a voice of reason!

Would you like to establish embassies?

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Postby Jetan » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:12 am

Also, don't forget the two missing provinces in China when updating the map Renetopia. :)
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........Геть Росію.........
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From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
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Postby Mitonesia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:13 am

Renetopia wrote:You guys hate me, don't you?

Ok that was pretty funny but saddening as you are having tons of work. My post has Renetopia written in red, it's pretty noticeable :p
But basically is a reminder that Seycheles, Comores, Lamu, Zanzibar, the Querimbas and Bazaruto archipelago were also part of my claim.
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Postby Mitonesia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:19 am

Naval lines are an interesting idea :meh:
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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:32 am

Mitonesia wrote:Naval lines are an interesting idea :meh:

What, like territorial waters?
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Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
Beholder's Lair - a hobby blog
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Postby Gyrenaica » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:37 am

Gyrenaica now claims Greenland as Gyrenaican land! Viva la Gyrenaica!

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