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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:08 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Length could easily be solved by having a mixed Magnetic Coil/Rail system which would allow it to fit Into convinetional weapoanry , power would likely have to be provided
My a miniaturized thorium reactor

That is considered low-tech and you can start trying to do that with the Applied Physics which can unlock Kinetic Weapon theories which will give you a railgun.


Which I'm guessing is the infantry version of the Vehicle Weapon Theories?
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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:09 pm

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Harkback Union wrote:
I thought the humans already sent probes to the planet before they landed.
Cause... otherwise they wouldn't know whether to bring sun glasses or not...

Right, ok guys, everyone has the Hydro plants, so go and make Hoover Dam's at your heart's content.


I think we lack the infrastructure for real dams... building dams require a lot of steel and concrete + You also need to worry about flooding the area. The water could just flow around the dam if you don't do something with the river first.
I build my hydro plant at a waterfall. That makes me immune from all these problems...

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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:09 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
So they'd be a mid-tech unit. Also, might want to get year 5 up.


I'm not 100% finished with my post, but we can move on. I'll just summarize what happens:
Dr Ford notices that something is wrong with the simulation. He stops the experiment just in time to save the test subject. He realizes that the simulation's parameters were messed up from the beginning and they have to start the whole mind-altering drug research over...

Ok, that can work, I am going to do my post and then the year rollover for year 5.
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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:10 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Right, ok guys, everyone has the Hydro plants, so go and make Hoover Dam's at your heart's content.


I think we lack the infrastructure for real dams... building dams require a lot of steel and concrete + You also need to worry about flooding the area. The water could just flow around the dam if you don't do something with the river first.
I build my hydro plant at a waterfall. That makes me immune from all these problems...


And hydro tech is useless to those of us in desert areas.
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Imperial City-States
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:11 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Length could easily be solved by having a mixed Magnetic Coil/Rail system which would allow it to fit Into convinetional weapoanry , power would likely have to be provided
My a miniaturized thorium reactor


A.k.a basically the exact same as 40k Fire Warriors use. Then said Fire Warrior-equivilant can't fire enough shots to defeat human wave attacks.



Rate of fire for the standard rifle isn't a major concern - as people won't have massive populations to expend in wave attacks .

A mass effect Rifle uses practically the exact same concept and fires fully automatic without problems .

Overall Railguns are fucking awesome ... More effective then lasers in many instances
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:13 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Ralnis wrote:That is considered low-tech and you can start trying to do that with the Applied Physics which can unlock Kinetic Weapon theories which will give you a railgun.


Which I'm guessing is the infantry version of the Vehicle Weapon Theories?

Yes, and there are different varies( like one for ballistics and energy weapons)
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:15 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
A.k.a basically the exact same as 40k Fire Warriors use. Then said Fire Warrior-equivilant can't fire enough shots to defeat human wave attacks.



Rate of fire for the standard rifle isn't a major concern - as people won't have massive populations to expend in wave attacks .

A mass effect Rifle uses practically the exact same concept and fires fully automatic without problems .

Overall Railguns are fucking awesome ... More effective then lasers in many instances



Depends. I'm planning to follow a tactic I used in a similar RP in a similar terrain area using highly manuverable vehicles and infantry armed with short-ranged lasers. Since we've got sandstorms to cover our movement from aircraft and radar, we'll be able to launch guerrilla raids on the enemy.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:17 pm

We have Railguns now days , primary issue would be only adjusting numbers slightly to adjust for the Heavier Gravity . Very minor Mathematical jump there ....

That tactic is severely dependent on weather conditions , useful sure but don't base your entire strategy on random occurrences
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Imperial+City-States
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"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:17 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:

Rate of fire for the standard rifle isn't a major concern - as people won't have massive populations to expend in wave attacks .

A mass effect Rifle uses practically the exact same concept and fires fully automatic without problems .

Overall Railguns are fucking awesome ... More effective then lasers in many instances



Depends. I'm planning to follow a tactic I used in a similar RP in a similar terrain area using highly manuverable vehicles and infantry armed with short-ranged lasers. Since we've got sandstorms to cover our movement from aircraft and radar, we'll be able to launch guerrilla raids on the enemy.

Just to let you guys know is that mathematics and equations will rule the day, but tactics will be counted in because what's the fun if you don't do that. :p
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:18 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:We have Railguns now days , primary issue would be only adjusting numbers slightly to adjust for the Heavier Gravity . Very minor Mathematical jump there ....

That tactic is severely dependent on weather conditions , useful sure but don't base your entire strategy on random occurrences


I've also got sheer distance and the temperature on my side.
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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:19 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
A.k.a basically the exact same as 40k Fire Warriors use. Then said Fire Warrior-equivilant can't fire enough shots to defeat human wave attacks.



Rate of fire for the standard rifle isn't a major concern - as people won't have massive populations to expend in wave attacks .

A mass effect Rifle uses practically the exact same concept and fires fully automatic without problems .

Overall Railguns are fucking awesome ... More effective then lasers in many instances

However in real life, weapons and defenses always go through a rock, paper, scissors type ratio so we may never know how or what happens in an actual battle.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:21 pm

Series of numbers won't stop a battalion of enemy troops from steam rolling your homes ...

And with that RPS that changes everyday with modern warfare as Infantry are fully capable of effectively engaging Tanks , where as Aircraft can effectively shake off most anti aircraft fire ,
It's not so much RPS now days ...
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Imperial+City-States
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
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Harkback Union
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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:22 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
I think we lack the infrastructure for real dams... building dams require a lot of steel and concrete + You also need to worry about flooding the area. The water could just flow around the dam if you don't do something with the river first.
I build my hydro plant at a waterfall. That makes me immune from all these problems...


And hydro tech is useless to those of us in desert areas.


You could drill into the water table and make a new river SMAC Style!

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:24 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
And hydro tech is useless to those of us in desert areas.


You could drill into the water table and make a new river SMAC Style!


Drilling that far is going to be very difficult and inefficient when you've got a lot of thorium nearby for nuclear reactors.
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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:29 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Series of numbers won't stop a battalion of enemy troops from steam rolling your homes ...

And with that RPS that changes everyday with modern warfare as Infantry are fully capable of effectively engaging Tanks , where as Aircraft can effectively shake off most anti aircraft fire ,
It's not so much RPS now days ...

I am talking about how battles occur in this RP, in this way, we don't have number-spamming and people claiming that they are the greatest around and there is nothing they can do to stop it, because in this RP, there is always some one who can challenge that, and have the chance to prove that person wrong.
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:32 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
You could drill into the water table and make a new river SMAC Style!


Drilling that far is going to be very difficult and inefficient when you've got a lot of thorium nearby for nuclear reactors.

That is true, but location is everything.

Also, Imperial, each faction has a set of bonuses and equal negatives to their factions that will effect certain things that are based off Sid Meier's Alpha Centuari, I am just going off the bat that your faction is based off the Spartan Federation so your bonuses will be;

+2 Morale: new units start as Veterans
+1 Police: Extra Drone suppressed for every two garrisoned units
Free Prototyping
-1 Industry: +10% cost of unit and building construction
from the Spartans
Let me know if have questions and whatnot.
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The Nation of Hay
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:38 pm

Well, I think my bonuses will be as such:

Industry +2
Police +1
Economy +1
Research -2
Planet -1
Growth -1
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:39 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Drilling that far is going to be very difficult and inefficient when you've got a lot of thorium nearby for nuclear reactors.

That is true, but location is everything.

Also, Imperial, each faction has a set of bonuses and equal negatives to their factions that will effect certain things that are based off Sid Meier's Alpha Centuari, I am just going off the bat that your faction is based off the Spartan Federation so your bonuses will be;

+2 Morale: new units start as Veterans
+1 Police: Extra Drone suppressed for every two garrisoned units
Free Prototyping
-1 Industry: +10% cost of unit and building construction
from the Spartans
Let me know if have questions and whatnot.



I've never played civilization ... Help me out on all of that please lol
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Imperial+City-States
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:52 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Ralnis wrote:That is true, but location is everything.

Also, Imperial, each faction has a set of bonuses and equal negatives to their factions that will effect certain things that are based off Sid Meier's Alpha Centuari, I am just going off the bat that your faction is based off the Spartan Federation so your bonuses will be;

+2 Morale: new units start as Veterans
+1 Police: Extra Drone suppressed for every two garrisoned units
Free Prototyping
-1 Industry: +10% cost of unit and building construction
from the Spartans
Let me know if have questions and whatnot.



I've never played civilization ... Help me out on all of that please lol


Its not civilization, Its alpha centaury!
Also, here is a full list: The more:
Industry - Faster Production
Economy - More energy
Growth - Faster population growth
Efficiency - Less corruption ( less energy lost in faraway colonies )
Research - Faster Research
Probes - Better defence against spies
Planet - Less pollution
Police - Less happiness needed to keep population in check
Morale - More experienced units
Support - More free support for military units ( more units you don't have to pay upkeep after)

Did I forget something?

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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:01 pm

Ok..... That makes alot more sense now thank you
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Imperial+City-States
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:21 pm

So, Hay, you're on the central island yes?
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:22 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:So, Hay, you're on the central island yes?


He's the one further south than me.
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:25 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:So, Hay, you're on the central island yes?


He's the one further south than me.


Yes, G-Tech, I am.

Also, I don't know where you are, but I believe I'm pretty far north...
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:32 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
He's the one further south than me.


Yes, G-Tech, I am.

Also, I don't know where you are, but I believe I'm pretty far north...


I'm the one right at the pole.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:33 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
He's the one further south than me.


Yes, G-Tech, I am.

Also, I don't know where you are, but I believe I'm pretty far north...


Hmm, I thought you were on the southern tip of the central continent. That's effectively the same latitude as the Sons.
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