OOC 1870 RP (Open)

[The Norrland]

GUYS!

Is it November or August or September or what?

Late August. But after all negotiations are over, I think we are forwarding to 1871

I see, I'll just post in November.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

MICOC. (Mexico-Italy-Colombia-Ottoman-Chile)

Chile and Mexico would not have supported the fall of Rome. Treaty or no Treaty.

Well the same would apply to Colombia, but again Italy helped us in various issues, so it's kind of giving the favor back

[Cobaltania]

GUYS!

Is it November or August or September or what?

Late August. But after all negotiations are over, I think we are forwarding to 1871

Dat means that ze Prussians will have ze almighty 1871 Mauser rifle!

[The Norrland]

I see what you are saying, and I do respect you. Sort of in the way that a mouse would respect an elephant, but also your... tone and formality. Oh, and how did you "raise me up?".

… Are we talking IC relations between Russia and Sweden or OOC ones between you and me now?

I raised Sweden up by offering it an alliance and promised to back Swedish colonial adventures. Which you will need if you are to convince the UK, France, or even Spain and Austria that Sweden should have a slice of Africa.

IC, and you've cleared it up. Thanks for the help by the way.

[The Norrland]

Late August. But after all negotiations are over, I think we are forwarding to 1871

Dat means that ze Prussians will have ze almighty 1871 Mauser rifle!

After the date it was invented, yes.

[Cobaltania]

Dat means that ze Prussians will have ze almighty 1871 Mauser rifle!

After the date it was invented, yes.

And the British will have the almighty 1871 Martini-Henry rifle!

[Of the Quendi]

Late August. But after all negotiations are over, I think we are forwarding to 1871

This RP need some sort of time advancement mechanism. Like one IC page equals one month of IC time or something like that.

IC, and you've cleared it up. Thanks for the help by the way.

OK. You are welcome.

[Grand Longueville]

Chile and Mexico would not have supported the fall of Rome. Treaty or no Treaty.

Well the same would apply to Colombia, but again Italy helped us in various issues, so it's kind of giving the favor back

No, you don't understand. Gran Colombia had far different diplomatic relations with the Papacy. Chile had personal support of Pius IX due to Pius IX being the diplomat, as a priest and bishop, to Chile several years prior to his being Pope. Mexico fully supported the Papal States due to the onslaught of American, French, and Spanish invasion. The Empress of Mexico, in fact went to Rome to plead with Pius IX for support! And now? Chile, who adored Pius IX, will be sending men to fight against him, and Mexico which was in upheaval will forsake it's own security to depose the Pope.

[Shimon-Zhivago]

Fun fact, Mauser 1871 was not produced until 1872

Also, you'd have to get Prussia's permission to buy this rifle from them. Which I'll assume won't be a problem, but the point is you have to wait.

[Cobaltania]

Well the same would apply to Colombia, but again Italy helped us in various issues, so it's kind of giving the favor back

No, you don't understand. Gran Colombia had far different diplomatic relations with the Papacy. Chile had personal support of Pius IX due to Pius IX being the diplomat, as a priest and bishop, to Chile several years prior to his being Pope. Mexico fully supported the Papal States due to the onslaught of American, French, and Spanish invasion. The Empress of Mexico, in fact went to Rome to plead with Pius IX for support! And now? Chile, who adored Pius IX, will be sending men to fight against him, and Mexico which was in upheaval will forsake it's own security to depose the Pope.

Since when are we going to depose him? That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard! Plus we did it in RL in 1871.

[Grand Longueville]

No, you don't understand. Gran Colombia had far different diplomatic relations with the Papacy. Chile had personal support of Pius IX due to Pius IX being the diplomat, as a priest and bishop, to Chile several years prior to his being Pope. Mexico fully supported the Papal States due to the onslaught of American, French, and Spanish invasion. The Empress of Mexico, in fact went to Rome to plead with Pius IX for support! And now? Chile, who adored Pius IX, will be sending men to fight against him, and Mexico which was in upheaval will forsake it's own security to depose the Pope.

Since when are we going to depose him? That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard! Plus we did it in RL in 1871.

The Holy Father would be deposed as sovereign if his temporal authority was disregarded. Furthermore, that never happened in 1871.

[Cobaltania]

Since when are we going to depose him? That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard! Plus we did it in RL in 1871.

The Holy Father would be deposed as sovereign if his temporal authority was disregarded. Furthermore, that never happened in 1871.

Oh, I mean 1870. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Stat ... pal_States

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Well the same would apply to Colombia, but again Italy helped us in various issues, so it's kind of giving the favor back

No, you don't understand. Gran Colombia had far different diplomatic relations with the Papacy. Chile had personal support of Pius IX due to Pius IX being the diplomat, as a priest and bishop, to Chile several years prior to his being Pope. Mexico fully supported the Papal States due to the onslaught of American, French, and Spanish invasion. The Empress of Mexico, in fact went to Rome to plead with Pius IX for support! And now? Chile, who adored Pius IX, will be sending men to fight against him, and Mexico which was in upheaval will forsake it's own security to depose the Pope.

Italy is not deposing the Pope, I would never support such campaign.

Also, Chile and Mexico have different leaderships at this point, I believe

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Late August. But after all negotiations are over, I think we are forwarding to 1871

This RP need some sort of time advancement mechanism. Like one IC page equals one month of IC time or something like that.

Read the original post of the RP

[Grand Longueville]

No, you don't understand. Gran Colombia had far different diplomatic relations with the Papacy. Chile had personal support of Pius IX due to Pius IX being the diplomat, as a priest and bishop, to Chile several years prior to his being Pope. Mexico fully supported the Papal States due to the onslaught of American, French, and Spanish invasion. The Empress of Mexico, in fact went to Rome to plead with Pius IX for support! And now? Chile, who adored Pius IX, will be sending men to fight against him, and Mexico which was in upheaval will forsake it's own security to depose the Pope.

Italy is not deposing the Pope, I would never support such campaign.

Also, Chile and Mexico have different leaderships at this point I believe

Goodness, of course the Holy Father would be deposed! Italy already expressed want to take Rome which would, naturally, depose the Pope.

[Cobaltania]

Italy is not deposing the Pope, I would never support such campaign.

Also, Chile and Mexico have different leaderships at this point I believe

Goodness, of course the Holy Father would be deposed! Italy already expressed want to take Rome which would, naturally, depose the Pope.

I just want to have control over the Papal States. Since when am I deposing the Pope?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Italy is not deposing the Pope, I would never support such campaign.

Also, Chile and Mexico have different leaderships at this point I believe

Goodness, of course the Holy Father would be deposed! Italy already expressed want to take Rome which would, naturally, depose the Pope.

He said that he wanted to create something similar to what is in place in today's era.

[Cobaltania]

Goodness, of course the Holy Father would be deposed! Italy already expressed want to take Rome which would, naturally, depose the Pope.

He said that he wanted to create something similar to what is in place in today's era.

Of course, which you all know as the Vatican City.

[Grand Longueville]

Goodness, of course the Holy Father would be deposed! Italy already expressed want to take Rome which would, naturally, depose the Pope.

I just want to have control over the Papal States. Since when am I deposing the Pope?

I am speaking in temporal terms. The Pope would be deposed and would have three options: retreating into the Vatican, going in to exile, or allowing the troops of the Piedmontese to nefariously commit the savagery.

[Grand Longueville]

He said that he wanted to create something similar to what is in place in today's era.

Of course, which you all know as the Vatican City.

No, Vittorio-Emanuel wanted to release the Leonine City, not the Vatican City.

Regardless, Pius IX would refuse either and so will I.

[Cobaltania]

Of course, which you all know as the Vatican City.

No, Vittorio-Emanuel wanted to release the Leonine City, not the Vatican City.

Regardless, Pius IX would refuse either and so will I.

Well, I don't know what my choices are now. You have refused the VC, so....anybody got an idea?

[Grand Longueville]

No, Vittorio-Emanuel wanted to release the Leonine City, not the Vatican City.

Regardless, Pius IX would refuse either and so will I.

Well, I don't know what my choices are now. You have refused the VC, so....anybody got an idea?

You could commit to Turin or Florence and allow the Pope to keep what is his and allow Garibaldi to do his thing.

[Of the Quendi]

Read the original post of the RP

I have. It isn't working when we are still in 1870 after 30 pages of IC. And at what point would there be people who aren't in negotiations?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

No, Vittorio-Emanuel wanted to release the Leonine City, not the Vatican City.

Regardless, Pius IX would refuse either and so will I.

Well, I don't know what my choices are now. You have refused the VC, so....anybody got an idea?

Keep what you have. This is OCC so technically the invasion nor the proposal have taken place. When he turns down the deal in the IC thread, then look for a new proposal

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Read the original post of the RP

I have. It isn't working when we are still in 1870 after 30 pages of IC. And at what point would there be people who aren't in negotiations?

By negoatiations the Co-OP's mean the ones that started in August. After those are over, then we will advance the time.