OOC 1870 RP (Open)

[Cerrania]

Are there any nations available that have had relatively little influence so far?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Are there any nations available that have had relatively little influence so far?

I think we need a Portugal. I am not sure though
Hmm, maybe some East Asian nations. Also Central American nations are open.

EDIT: Brussels is open as well

[Of the Quendi]

No Crusade will be called and Russia will not be excommunicated as they are already in schism with the Roman Church.

Gentlemen, just as I did last time, I will Roleplay the best way I know how: realistically. I will do my very best to say the things Pius IX would have said and do the things Pius IX would have done.

Glad to hear it.

Also you should know that France has basically collapsed as a country even harder than it did in RL after the Franco-Prussian War so those troops France had in the Papal States will have probably left you to face Italy alone.

Are there any nations available that have had relatively little influence so far?

Define "little influence".

A number of smaller countries are available if thats what you are asking. Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway (I am fairly sure), Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Greece, an independent Albania (apparently), Bolivia, Paraguay, Ecuador, all Caribbean and central American countries south of Mexico, Ethiopia etc. are all available.

[Cerrania]

Are there any nations available that have had relatively little influence so far?

I think we need a Portugal. I am not sure though
Hmm, maybe some East Asian nations. Also Central American nations are open.

EDIT: Brussels is open as well

Is Japan still in the age of feudal lords in 1870? They might be interesting to play.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I think we need a Portugal. I am not sure though
Hmm, maybe some East Asian nations. Also Central American nations are open.

EDIT: Brussels is open as well

Is Japan still in the age of feudal lords in 1870? They might be interesting to play.

Someone already is RPing with Japan
But if you want to RP with an Asian nation, China and Korea are open

[Cerrania]

Is Japan still in the age of feudal lords in 1870? They might be interesting to play.

Someone already is RPing with Japan
But if you want to RP with an Asian nation, China and Korea are open

Righto.

[Grand Longueville]

Name of Nation: The Papal States, the Pontifical Territories of the Holy Father, etc.
Population: 800,000
Population [Empire Total]: N/A
Standing Military and Reserves: 11,000 regulars, 10,000 French stationed in Rome proper (pending)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: Please note that historically, the Papal laymen were quite unwilling to serve in the Armed forces, and as a result the Holy Father had foreign services fight in their stead. So, I multiplied by 5 instead of 8 and got 40,000.
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: N/A
Country and Territories: HERE
Head of State: HH Pope Pius IX
Head of Government: Giacomo Cardinal Antonelli
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy, ecclesiocracy
Primary Weapon: M1868 Remington Pontificio Rifle
Secondary Weapon: No known pistol.
Standard Machine-Gun: No machine gun used
Standard Artillery: No field gun were used. Artillery manned the walls surrounding Rome and Civitavecchia
Main Naval Vessels: The Navy was divided in three different fleets, Marina da Guerra (Military), Marina di Finanza (Merchant), and Marina del Tevere; all forming the Pontifical Navy. Most of these ships were simple sloops, and corvettes. The Navy consists of five steamships, three cutters, a twelve gun schooner (San Pietro) and a fleet of twelve mortar boats. The flagship is the Corvette Immacolata Concezione.

[Zumreed]

Name of Nation: The Papal States, the Pontifical Territories of the Holy Father, etc.
Population: 3,000,000 1
Population [Empire Total]: N/A
Standing Military and Reserves: 11,000 regulars, 10,000 French stationed in Rome proper (pending)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: Please note that historically, the Papal laymen were quite unwilling to serve in the Armed forces, and as a result the Holy Father had foreign services fight in their stead. So, I multiplied by 3 instead of 8. I got 90,000 and that seems a bit much any way.
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: N/A
Country and Territories: HERE
Head of State: HH Pope Pius IX
Head of Government: Giacomo Cardinal Antonelli
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy, ecclesiocracy
Primary Weapon: M1868 Remington Pontificio Rifle
Secondary Weapon: No known pistol.
Standard Machine-Gun: No machine gun used
Standard Artillery: No field gun were used. Artillery manned the walls surrounding Rome and Civitavecchia
Main Naval Vessels: The Navy was divided in three different fleets, Marina da Guerra (Military), Marina di Finanza (Merchant), and Marina del Tevere; all forming the Pontifical Navy. Most of these ships were simple sloops, and corvettes. The Navy consists of five steamships, three cutters, a twelve gun schooner (San Pietro) and a fleet of twelve mortar boats. The flagship is the Corvette Immacolata Concezione.

Italy might've already annexed the Papal States, if I'm not mistaken.

[Grand Longueville]

Name of Nation: The Papal States, the Pontifical Territories of the Holy Father, etc.
Population: 3,000,000 1
Population [Empire Total]: N/A
Standing Military and Reserves: 11,000 regulars, 10,000 French stationed in Rome proper (pending)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: Please note that historically, the Papal laymen were quite unwilling to serve in the Armed forces, and as a result the Holy Father had foreign services fight in their stead. So, I multiplied by 3 instead of 8. I got 90,000 and that seems a bit much any way.
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: N/A
Country and Territories: HERE
Head of State: HH Pope Pius IX
Head of Government: Giacomo Cardinal Antonelli
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy, ecclesiocracy
Primary Weapon: M1868 Remington Pontificio Rifle
Secondary Weapon: No known pistol.
Standard Machine-Gun: No machine gun used
Standard Artillery: No field gun were used. Artillery manned the walls surrounding Rome and Civitavecchia
Main Naval Vessels: The Navy was divided in three different fleets, Marina da Guerra (Military), Marina di Finanza (Merchant), and Marina del Tevere; all forming the Pontifical Navy. Most of these ships were simple sloops, and corvettes. The Navy consists of five steamships, three cutters, a twelve gun schooner (San Pietro) and a fleet of twelve mortar boats. The flagship is the Corvette Immacolata Concezione.

Italy might've already annexed the Papal States, if I'm not mistaken.

You are mistaken.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Name of Nation: The Papal States, the Pontifical Territories of the Holy Father, etc.
Population: 3,000,000 1
Population [Empire Total]: N/A
Standing Military and Reserves: 11,000 regulars, 10,000 French stationed in Rome proper (pending)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: Please note that historically, the Papal laymen were quite unwilling to serve in the Armed forces, and as a result the Holy Father had foreign services fight in their stead. So, I multiplied by 3 instead of 8. I got 90,000 and that seems a bit much any way.
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: N/A
Country and Territories: HERE
Head of State: HH Pope Pius IX
Head of Government: Giacomo Cardinal Antonelli
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy, ecclesiocracy
Primary Weapon: M1868 Remington Pontificio Rifle
Secondary Weapon: No known pistol.
Standard Machine-Gun: No machine gun used
Standard Artillery: No field gun were used. Artillery manned the walls surrounding Rome and Civitavecchia
Main Naval Vessels: The Navy was divided in three different fleets, Marina da Guerra (Military), Marina di Finanza (Merchant), and Marina del Tevere; all forming the Pontifical Navy. Most of these ships were simple sloops, and corvettes. The Navy consists of five steamships, three cutters, a twelve gun schooner (San Pietro) and a fleet of twelve mortar boats. The flagship is the Corvette Immacolata Concezione.

This is your territory in 1870: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_1860.jpg
(The territory that is marked by a purple line)

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Name of Nation: The Papal States, the Pontifical Territories of the Holy Father, etc.
Population: 3,000,000 1
Population [Empire Total]: N/A
Standing Military and Reserves: 11,000 regulars, 10,000 French stationed in Rome proper (pending)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: Please note that historically, the Papal laymen were quite unwilling to serve in the Armed forces, and as a result the Holy Father had foreign services fight in their stead. So, I multiplied by 3 instead of 8. I got 90,000 and that seems a bit much any way.
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: N/A
Country and Territories: HERE
Head of State: HH Pope Pius IX
Head of Government: Giacomo Cardinal Antonelli
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy, ecclesiocracy
Primary Weapon: M1868 Remington Pontificio Rifle
Secondary Weapon: No known pistol.
Standard Machine-Gun: No machine gun used
Standard Artillery: No field gun were used. Artillery manned the walls surrounding Rome and Civitavecchia
Main Naval Vessels: The Navy was divided in three different fleets, Marina da Guerra (Military), Marina di Finanza (Merchant), and Marina del Tevere; all forming the Pontifical Navy. Most of these ships were simple sloops, and corvettes. The Navy consists of five steamships, three cutters, a twelve gun schooner (San Pietro) and a fleet of twelve mortar boats. The flagship is the Corvette Immacolata Concezione.

Italy might've already annexed the Papal States, if I'm not mistaken.

Not yet, but at this time, the Papal States only had territories adjacent to Rome

[Grand Longueville]

Name of Nation: The Papal States, the Pontifical Territories of the Holy Father, etc.
Population: 3,000,000 1
Population [Empire Total]: N/A
Standing Military and Reserves: 11,000 regulars, 10,000 French stationed in Rome proper (pending)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: Please note that historically, the Papal laymen were quite unwilling to serve in the Armed forces, and as a result the Holy Father had foreign services fight in their stead. So, I multiplied by 3 instead of 8. I got 90,000 and that seems a bit much any way.
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: N/A
Country and Territories: HERE
Head of State: HH Pope Pius IX
Head of Government: Giacomo Cardinal Antonelli
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy, ecclesiocracy
Primary Weapon: M1868 Remington Pontificio Rifle
Secondary Weapon: No known pistol.
Standard Machine-Gun: No machine gun used
Standard Artillery: No field gun were used. Artillery manned the walls surrounding Rome and Civitavecchia
Main Naval Vessels: The Navy was divided in three different fleets, Marina da Guerra (Military), Marina di Finanza (Merchant), and Marina del Tevere; all forming the Pontifical Navy. Most of these ships were simple sloops, and corvettes. The Navy consists of five steamships, three cutters, a twelve gun schooner (San Pietro) and a fleet of twelve mortar boats. The flagship is the Corvette Immacolata Concezione.

This is your territory in 1870: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_1860.jpg
(The territory that is marked by a purple line)

Oh we are RPing the Lazio, then? Bologna and the Marches have already been annexed, I assume. Very well. I will edit accordingly.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

This is your territory in 1870: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_1860.jpg
(The territory that is marked by a purple line)

Oh we are RPing the Lazio, then? Bologna and the Marches have already been annexed, I assume. Very well. I will edit accordingly.

Yes. Your map says it as well: the blue part was the territory of the Papal States in 1870. The pink part belonged to the Papal States in 1860 -> http://www.traditioninaction.org/religi ... p_1870.jpg

[Grand Longueville]

Oh we are RPing the Lazio, then? Bologna and the Marches have already been annexed, I assume. Very well. I will edit accordingly.

Yes. Your map says it as well: the blue part was the territory of the Papal States in 1870. The pink part belonged to the Papal States in 1860

Right, but since France has clearly capitulated to Prussia earlier than planned, I wasn't sure if we were going by the borders of 1860-1866 or 1870.

Regardless, the application has been edited.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Yes. Your map says it as well: the blue part was the territory of the Papal States in 1870. The pink part belonged to the Papal States in 1860

Right, but since France has clearly capitulated to Prussia earlier than planned, I wasn't sure if we were going by the borders of 1860-1866 or 1870.

Regardless, the application has been edited.

Yes. We are going by the borders of 1870

[Grand Longueville]

Right, but since France has clearly capitulated to Prussia earlier than planned, I wasn't sure if we were going by the borders of 1860-1866 or 1870.

Regardless, the application has been edited.

Yes. We are going by the borders of 1870

I will tell you right now to stop the attitude you are externalizing.

Now that it has been cleared, I will commence reading the RP.

[Of the Quendi]

Isn't 1.5 million a bit high a number for the Papal States in 1870? According to wiki the population of Lazio in 1871 (and the region of Lazio is as I understand it larger than the Papal States by 1870 borders) is 1,173,000.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Yes. We are going by the borders of 1870

I will tell you right now to stop the attitude you are externalizing.

Now that it has been cleared, I will commence reading the RP.

Hmm. Uncalled for?
I wasn't giving you any attitude. I was just clarifying my tone by using smilies. I don't want to come out as I am giving an attitude.
Also, check your tone sir. I am respecting you, so I demand that you respect me as well.

[Shimon-Zhivago]

I will tell you right now to stop the attitude you are externalizing.

Now that it has been cleared, I will commence reading the RP.

Hmm. Uncalled for?
I wasn't giving you any attitude. I was just clarifying my tone by using smilies. I don't want to come out as I am giving an attitude.
Also, check your tone sir. I am respecting you, so I demand that you respect me as well.

Those who demand respect will get none.

Although I do agree with you that his tone is disagreeable.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Hmm. Uncalled for?
I wasn't giving you any attitude. I was just clarifying my tone by using smilies. I don't want to come out as I am giving an attitude.
Also, check your tone sir. I am respecting you, so I demand that you respect me as well.

Those who demand respect will get none.

Although I do agree with you that his tone is disagreeable.

I am only asking that he doesn't give me an attitude. I wasn't giving him an attitude, so his respond was rather uncalled for. There is evidence throughout all the OCC that I use smilies to clarify my tone.

But, I will move on in order to continue business as usual with the RP

[Grand Longueville]

Isn't 1.5 million a bit high a number for the Papal States in 1870? According to wiki the population of Lazio in 1871 (and the region of Lazio is as I understand it larger than the Papal States by 1870 borders) is 1,173,000.

Not quite, the Lazio was the Papal States of 1870. Furthermore, Civitavecchia was a constantly fluctuating city. But very well, I will accommodate with 800,000.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

@Chile: Are you creating the thread for the negotiations or are we negotiating here?
Also, if we create a thread for the negotiations, I propose that we put a link of the thread somewhere in one of our IC posts about the negotiation.

Posting this again so that Chile can see it when he goes online

[The Time Alliance]

We need a pope to defend Catholic Argentina against Russia via CRusade.

Your new flag is very interesting. To be honest, I think it is a much better improvement from the last

Yeah feedback.

Yeah. I finally found someone who'd make one.

[The Norrland]

Why are there Egyptian troops in Paris?

To answer both of your questions:

Russia has scared you into outmost compliance. You only seek to attack its enemies, and you are layingndown a red carpet for them in the Balkans, all after a declaration of war.


As for the Egyptian troops, I hired them.

Simply due to the fact that they are SO much more powerful than me, and are very much capable of completely destroying me. But, with some powerful allies - mainly the Ottomans, you and Prussia, I am more than willing to put them to shame, the way they did to me in July.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Your new flag is very interesting. To be honest, I think it is a much better improvement from the last

Yeah feedback.

Yeah. I finally found someone who'd make one.

I thought there were a lot of flag makers?
I wish, though, that there was a currency maker. I remember there was one but now I can't find him/her