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The State of Czecho-Slovakia
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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:37 pm

Because of prior obligations, I regret I will not be able to take part in this RP. I have made the decision to attempt to reduce my internet usage and obligations here on NationStates in order to better achieve my personal, creative, and academic goals. I apologize for wasting your time.
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:21 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:I'll return as Argentina..... Russia you wanna tell me what happened to Argentina due to treaty?

Well it doesn't seem there is much support for an independent Patagonia so most of the change will be economic concessions to the Russian Empire.

Uruguay will be given independency, it will receive an indemnity and possibly some land and Argentina will secede anything it may have gained during the Paraguyan War to a restored Paraguayan state, which may even get a bit more land from Argentina.

Russia will be payed a huge war indemnity. How huge I don't know yet, but I read that Argentina's debt almost doubled from 48 million gold pesos in 1870 to 1871 so at least fifty million if not more. At a fairly high interest rate level, and payed for in US dollars or Pound Sterling not pesos. I am trying to find out what the GDP and state revenue of Argentina was in 1870 to decide on a suitable number. In addition to the war indemnity Argentina would give a number of mercantile concessions to Russia to give Russia a privileged standing in the Argentinian economy.

Whoohoo. Does that mean Chile is off the hook?

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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:13 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:I'll return as Argentina..... Russia you wanna tell me what happened to Argentina due to treaty?

Well it doesn't seem there is much support for an independent Patagonia so most of the change will be economic concessions to the Russian Empire.

Uruguay will be given independency, it will receive an indemnity and possibly some land and Argentina will secede anything it may have gained during the Paraguyan War to a restored Paraguayan state, which may even get a bit more land from Argentina.

Russia will be payed a huge war indemnity. How huge I don't know yet, but I read that Argentina's debt almost doubled from 48 million gold pesos in 1870 to 1871 so at least fifty million if not more. At a fairly high interest rate level, and payed for in US dollars or Pound Sterling not pesos. I am trying to find out what the GDP and state revenue of Argentina was in 1870 to decide on a suitable number. In addition to the war indemnity Argentina would give a number of mercantile concessions to Russia to give Russia a privileged standing in the Argentinian economy.

I certainly would like to occupy....
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:16 pm

Well, if I can keep Patagonia, I have no qualms. I'll relinquish any influence over Uruguayan natives I hold, and hope Russia doesn't force Argentina's economy in such a way that Russia can into LAEP.

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Dangelia
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Postby Dangelia » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:32 pm

Hey, Seljuq, wanna start posting about the wedding before the time skip officially occurs?

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:36 pm

[spoiler=appsuggest]
Nation Name:
Capital City:
Government Type:
Leader/s:
Claimed Territory: (Provide a detailed description, or preferred, a map)
Religion:
Population: (see populstat)
Military:
Navy:
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And then ask them to write about a paragraph for each; demonym and full name included in Nation Name, Head of State, head of Government and Judiciary head if applicable for leader/s, claimed territory to include disputed lands too, religion to include minority vs official vs main, etc,

I'm not sure about the other sections; are they only for Great Powers?

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Seljuq Kyiv
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:39 am

Alleniana wrote:[spoiler=appsuggest]
Nation Name:
Capital City:
Government Type:
Leader/s:
Claimed Territory: (Provide a detailed description, or preferred, a map)
Religion:
Population: (see populstat)
Military:
Navy:
429

And then ask them to write about a paragraph for each; demonym and full name included in Nation Name, Head of State, head of Government and Judiciary head if applicable for leader/s, claimed territory to include disputed lands too, religion to include minority vs official vs main, etc,

I'm not sure about the other sections; are they only for Great Powers?


Those apps were meant to be for everyone.

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Seljuq Kyiv
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:45 am

Dangelia wrote:Hey, Seljuq, wanna start posting about the wedding before the time skip officially occurs?


I knew this day would come.

...

I honestly have no idea how to write a wedding, and I hope we could collaborate on something beautiful.

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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:02 am

Gibberan wrote:I certainly would like to occupy....

Occupy what?
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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:08 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Gibberan wrote:I certainly would like to occupy....

Occupy what?

Argentina
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The Time Alliance
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Postby The Time Alliance » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:10 am

Gibberan wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Occupy what?

Argentina

NO!

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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:01 am

Gibberan wrote:Argentina

An occupation of all of Argentina has never been on the table from Russia's perspective.
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The Time Alliance
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Postby The Time Alliance » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:10 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Gibberan wrote:Argentina

An occupation of all of Argentina has never been on the table from Russia's perspective.

Good.....

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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:14 am

The Time Alliance wrote:Good.....

If the US will pay Russia more than Argentina can afford I am however happy to let the Americans give occupation a go.
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The Time Alliance
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Postby The Time Alliance » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:15 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:Good.....

If the US will pay Russia more than Argentina can afford I am however happy to let the Americans give occupation a go.

........damn.
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Jamessonia
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Founded: Jun 02, 2012
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Postby Jamessonia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:20 pm

Are we restarting? At 1875?
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Seljuq Kyiv
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Founded: Oct 24, 2013
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:53 pm

Jamessonia wrote:Are we restarting? At 1875?


We are timeskipping to 1875. Consensus agreed that retconning all our effort would have wasted the past three months or so.

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Dangelia
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Founded: Jul 19, 2013
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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:10 pm

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Dangelia wrote:Hey, Seljuq, wanna start posting about the wedding before the time skip officially occurs?


I knew this day would come.

...

I honestly have no idea how to write a wedding, and I hope we could collaborate on something beautiful.

Well, how about this. We present our gifts to our spouses outside the citadel. Then we... uhh, never mind. Walking from Cairo to Alexandria might be a stupid idea.
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Seljuq Kyiv
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Founded: Oct 24, 2013
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:23 pm

Dangelia wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
I knew this day would come.

...

I honestly have no idea how to write a wedding, and I hope we could collaborate on something beautiful.

Well, how about this. We present our gifts to our spouses outside the citadel. Then we... uhh, never mind. Walking from Cairo to Alexandria might be a stupid idea.


Walk? The Patriarch of Alexandria is already in Cairo.

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Zumreed
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Postby Zumreed » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:28 pm

Dangelia wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
I knew this day would come.

...

I honestly have no idea how to write a wedding, and I hope we could collaborate on something beautiful.

Well, how about this. We present our gifts to our spouses outside the citadel. Then we... uhh, never mind. Walking from Cairo to Alexandria might be a stupid idea.

I still need to gib giant golden elephant.

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:57 pm

Alrighteish, 1875 it is. I'll march into a by now probably totally decomposed Bolivia and take the coast, then who knows what'll come.

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Dangelia
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Founded: Jul 19, 2013
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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:57 pm

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Dangelia wrote:Well, how about this. We present our gifts to our spouses outside the citadel. Then we... uhh, never mind. Walking from Cairo to Alexandria might be a stupid idea.


Walk? The Patriarch of Alexandria is already in Cairo.

So present the gifts outside of the citadel, and then walk to the church. I'll take care of things over there as it's an Eastern Orthodox service.

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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:59 pm

I notice Qing China is open. Any chance I could take that?
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Seljuq Kyiv
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:21 pm

Senkaku wrote:I notice Qing China is open. Any chance I could take that?


App away, sirrah.


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