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OOC 1870 RP (Open)

Postby Brissia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:14 pm



Welcome to the 1870s real-world RP sign-up page! Please read the rules and regulations below! Once you have applied and have been approved, the IC can be reached here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=264149 .

Here's a brief outline of what is below:
-1- A description of the RP
-2- A map of the RP
-3- A list of countries and their players
-4- Applications for key powers
-5- The application process for non-key power nations
-6- The rules


1870 Real-World RP


It is August of 1870, and several wars across the world are winding down. The Paris Commune has risen in France; Austria has emerged as a dominant world power; Sweden has been forced to give up her colonies; Egypt pushes to expand it's borders.

In this RP, you will be taking control of a nation that existed in the year 1870. Your job is to help that country survive through the turmoil that is world affairs.

Below is the official map of this RP. It shows major powers (with or without players) and nations belonging to players. This map will be updated as often as possible.

Map:
http://i.imgur.com/ttTcpz5.png

Here's a list of the nations on the map (and their players). This is not a list of the only countries allowed to be played.

British Empire [TAKEN BY: Kryskov]
Provisional Government (France) [Open]
Northern German Confederation [TAKEN BY: Pheonix02]
Russian Empire [TAKEN BY: Of the Quendi]
Austria-Hungary [TAKEN BY: Brissia]
The United States of America [TAKEN BY: Gibberan]
Meiji Japan [Open]
Kingdom of Spain [Open]
Qing China [Open]
Ottoman Empire [Open]
Sultanate of Egypt [TAKEN BY: Seljuq Kyiv]
Brazilian Empire [TAKEN BY: Timothia]
Republic of Argentina [RESERVED BY: The Time Alliance]
Kingdom of Italy [Open]
Kingdom of Southern Germany [Open]
Mexico [TAKEN BY: Baja California y Sonora]
Sweden [TAKEN BY: The Norrland]
Albania [TAKEN BY: Dangelia]
Siam [TAKEN BY: Zumreed]
Orange Free State [Open]
Transvaal [Open]
Colombia [TAKEN BY: The Grand Republic of Hannover]
Chile [TAKEN BY: Alleniana]


Several powers are essential to the playing of this RP. Keeping this in mind, and in order to help preserve realism, I have constructed application forms for all of them. If you would like to play one of these powers, please view the spoilers in the list below. If not, see instructions for application farther down. Please consider playing a power if any are available. If you are playing one of these powers, I except you to do some more research so that you know your nation inside and out.

British Empire [TAKEN]
Population (The Isles):[/b] 27,500,000
Population (Empire Total): 200,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 230,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 2,200,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 16,000,000
Country and Territories: http://www.antiquemapsandprints.com/p-16821.jpg
Head of State: Her Majesty the Queen, Alexandrina Victoria
Head of Government: Prime Minister William Ewart Gladstone
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Snider-Enfield Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snider-Enfield (1870)
Martini-Henry Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini-Henry (Starting June, 1871)
Secondary Weapon: Beaumont-Adams Revolver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont-Adams_Revolver
Standard Machine-Gun: Gatling-Gun (limited numbers) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_Gu ... a_.26_Asia
Standard Artillery: RBL 12 pounder 8 cwt Armstrong gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_12_pou ... strong_gun (1870) Changed to a muzzle-loading variant (1871)
Main Naval Vessels: 40 Ironclads-(1870) 48 Ironclads-(1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ir ... .931882.29
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Ar ... torian_Era

Second Empire of France
Population (France): 36,870,000
Population (Empire Total): 60,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 800,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 2,949,600
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 4,800,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... 870%29.png
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty Napoleon the Third, By the Grace of God and the will of the Nation, Emperor of the French.
Head of Government: Prime Minister Émile Ollivier
Government Style: Authoritarian Democracy
Primary Weapon: Chassepot Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassepot_rifle
Secondary Weapon: Lefaucheux M1858 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefaucheux_M1858
Standard Machine-Gun: Mitrailleuse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrailleuse
Standard Artillery: Reffye 85 mm cannon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reffye_85mm_cannon
Main Naval Vessels: 27 Ironclads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ba ... _ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-pru ... ing_forces

Northern German Confederation [TAKEN]
Population (The Confederation): 30,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 1,00,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 1,9600,000
Country and Territories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-NDB.svg
Head of State: His Majesty, the King of Prussia, Wilhelm Friedrich Ludwig
Head of Government: Chancellor Otto von Bismarck
Government Style: Authoritarian Democracy
Primary Weapon: Dreyse Needle-Gun-(1870) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun Mauser Model 1871-(Starting in 1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_Model_1871
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Krupp C64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_%28field_gun%29
Main Naval Vessels: 7 Ironclads-(1870) 10 Ironclads-(1871)
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_a ... cteristics

Russian Empire [TAKEN]
Population (Motherland): 84,500,000
Population (Empire Total): 96,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 1,500,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 6,760,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 7,680,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_1914.svg
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russians, Aleksandr II Nikolaevich
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Berdan Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berdan_rifle
Secondary Weapon: Smith & Wesson Model 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3 (After 1871)
Standard Artillery: Krupp C64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_%28field_gun%29
Main Naval Vessels: 24 Ironclads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_R ... my#Reforms

United States of America [TAKEN]
Population (The States): 38,555,983
Standing Military and Reserves: 50,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 3,084,478
Country and Territories: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~map/territory/us_1870.jpg
Head of State: President Ulysses S. Grant
Head of Government: Vice President Schulyer Colfax/Speaker of the House James G. Blaine
Government Style: Federalist Republic
Primary Weapon: Springfield Model 1870-(1870) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1870 (Limited use; older variants were more common)
Secondary Weapon: M1860/61 Colt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Army_Model_1860
Standard Machine-Gun: Gatling Gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_gun
Standard Artillery: 3-Inch Ordinance Rifle (muzzle-loader)
Main Naval Vessels: 10 Steam Frigates

Austria-Hungary [TAKEN]
Population (Austria and Hungary): +/- 40,000,000
Population (Empire Total): +/- 45,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 800,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 3,200,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 3,600,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 914%29.svg
Head of State: His Imperial and Royal Apostolic Majesty, Francis Joseph I
Head of Government: Minister-President Baron Ignaz von Plener
Government Style: Dual Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: M1867 Werndl-Holub http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1867_Werndl-Holub
Secondary Weapon: M1870 Gasser http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1870_Gasser
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 14 Ironclass
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hun ... _World_War

Meiji Japan [TAKEN]
Population (Japanese Mainland): 33,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 12,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 2,640,000
Country and Territories: [see map of Modern-Day Japan: the borders were exactly the same]
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor of Japan Meiji the Great
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Various Rifles (Western imports)
Secondary Weapon: Smith & Wesson Model 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3 (limited use after 1871)
Standard Machine-Gun: Gatling Gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_gun (Limited use)
Standard Artillery: Unknown locally-produced models http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_ ... modern_era
Main Naval Vessels: 11 Ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boshin_War

Kingdom of Italy [TAKEN]
Population (Italy): 25,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 50,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): +/- 2,000,000
Country and Territories: http://wps.pearsoncustom.com/wps/media/ ... p21_15.jpg
Head of State: Father of the Homeland Victor Emmanuel II
Head of Government: Prime Minister Giovanni Lanza
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Repetiergewehr Vetterli, Modell 1869, 69/71 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetterli_r ... 2C_69.2F71 (Limited use: older variants were more common)
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 13 Ironclads-(1870) 14 Ironclads-(1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ir ... s_of_Italy
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Ital ... dependence

Ottoman Empire [TAKEN]
Population (Turkey): Unknown
Population (Empire Total): +/- 28,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 280,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): Unknown
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 2,240,000
Country and Territories: http://tomatobubble.com/sitebuildercont ... 0335_6.gif
Head of State: Sultan Abdülaziz
Head of Government: Grand Vizier Mehmed Emin Aali Pasha
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Various Rifles (British, German, and American imports) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_in ... man_Empire
Secondary Weapon: Smith & Wesson Model 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3 (1871)
Standard Artillery: Various German imports
Main Naval Vessels: +/- 10 Ironclads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma ... d_warships

Qing China
Population (China): 360,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 3,500,000 (only 100,000 with modern equipment)
Maximum Conscription (Native): 32,000,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ion%29.svg
Head of State: Tongzhi Emperor
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Dreyse Needle-Gun-(1870) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun Mauser Model 1871-(Starting in 1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_Model_1871
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 3 wooden warships http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beiyang_Fleet

Kingdom of Spain [TAKEN]
Population (Spain): 16,200,000
Population (Empire Total): ?20,000,000?
Standing Military and Reserves: ?100,000?
Maximum Conscription (Native): 1,296,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 1,600,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_1898.png
Head of State: His Majesty, the King of Spain, Amadeo I
Head of Government: Prime Minister Juan Bautista Topete
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Remington Rolling Block Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_ ... lock_rifle
Secondary Weapon: Lefaucheux M1858 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefaucheux_M1858
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: ?5? Steam Frigates
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-ninete ... tury_Spain

Republic of Argentina [TAKEN]
Population (Argentina): 2,250,000
Standing Military and Reserves: ?60,000?
Maximum Conscription (Native): 180,000
Country and Territories: http://image.shutterstock.com/display_p ... 874587.jpg
Head of State: Domingo Faustino Sarmiento
Head of Government: Vice President Adolfo Alsina/ Provisional President Manuel Quintana
Government Style: Democratic Republic
Primary Weapon: Remington Rolling Block Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_ ... lock_rifle (Limited numbers: British, American, and German imports often used)
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: Unknown

Brazilian Empire
Population (Brazil): +/-9,500,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 550,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 760,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... dit%29.png
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor Dom Pedro II
Head of Government: Viscount of São Vicente
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Pattern 1853 Enfield rifle-musket http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_1853_Enfield
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 6 Ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forc ... erial_Navy


Additionally, if any of the data I have is wrong or incomplete, please let me know ASAP. Your input is greatly appreciated!

If you do not want to play one of the above listed powers, please make a post with the following information on it:
Name of Nation: (What it was called in 1870)
Population: (the population of your nation)
Population [Empire Total]: (if your nation is an empire, put the population of the entire empire, including your nation, here)
Standing Military and Reserves: (the total number of soldiers in standing or reserve units)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: (take your nation's population, divide it by 100, and multiply that number by 8. Put your result here)
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: (if your nation is an empire, take the total empire population, divide it by 100, and multiply that number by 8. Put your result here.)
Country and Territories: (a link to a map of your nation in 1870)
Head of State: (your nation's sovereign in 1870)
Head of Government: (whoever was in charge of your nation's parliament/congress in 1870)
Government Style: (I don't need to explain this, do I?)
Primary Weapon: (the official service rifle of your nation in 1870. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. If your nation adopted a new rifle in 1871, please put that here as well)
Secondary Weapon: (the official service pistol of your nation in 1870. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. If your nation adopted a new pistol in 1871, please put that here as well)
Standard Machine-Gun: (if your nation had a machine-gun in 1870 or starting in 1871, put it here. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. Also mention if it was lightly used or heavily used, and be honest)
Standard Artillery: (the most common field gun of your nation in 1870. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. If your nation adopted a new field gun in 1871, please put that here as well)
Main Naval Vessels: (the creme of your nation's fleet, either ironclads or steam frigates. Place the number of those ships of your nation in 1870 here, followed by the number of those ships in 1871)


I'd recommend Iran or Bolivia for those not wanting to play one of the aforementioned powers.

I will be background checking all of your application for accuracy. You will not be accepted until your application is as accurate as can be. Don't worry, I will help you out if you don't know any information.

Last but certainly not least, there are a few rules to go over:


Timescale:
In this RP, I will be generally directing the timescale, although you are welcome to help out with that in the game. Because of the nature of the way RPs like this work, a single day can elapse over countless posts, or a single post can advance the timeline by a month. All that is asked is that no-one advance the timeline unreasonably. By this I mean that if two nations are at a conference and are engaging in discussions, some other player can't make a post that takes place a week in the future. That being said, try to keep such conferences to a minimum in order to keep the timeline moving. And be aware of the limitations that exist in communication technologies at this time.

Historical Accuracy:

What does this mean? Obviously, it doesn't mean that we're going to be following history's course exactly, or at all. That would ruin the point of this RP! I encourage players to seek different alliances, find new technologies, and make different decisions that their nations did in 1870. However, this does NOT give you the right to futz with everything all the time always. What do I mean? Well, you can't instantly change your country's goals, for one. Killing off certain figures and promoting new ones for convenience is frowned upon. More specific rules regarding historical accuracy can be found below:

Waging War:

Any conflict that is started must be waged reasonably and realistically. This is 1870, people! Troops can't move more than twenty miles in a day on land, unless they are transported by train, and there are some very obvious limitations that train travel poses. Ship travel is very limited too, with weeks being needed to transport soldiers and supplies across the world. Troop mobilization takes time as well, at the very least two weeks for the most advanced nations. Furthermore, troops are constantly hampered by the technological limitations of the day, which I will go into more detail about below:

Technology:
Understanding the limitations of your nation's technology is important. Anyone whose nation uses the Dreyse Rifle, for example, should know that the rifle was unreliable, inaccurate, had terrible range, and released a choking gas whenever the bolt was opened after firing. The American player, as another example whose main artillery is the 3-inch muzzle-loader, will almost always be at a disadvantage when paired up against European powers. Make sure you research your nation's technology well, and make sure that you play according to that technology. Additionally, I should mention the rules regarding further development of technology: Since it can take years to develop new technologies, programs and designs put into place in 1870 and 1871 can't be cancelled, slowed down, or sped up. Also, there will be no sudden races towards advancement in technology unrealistically early: for example, no developing multi-round-mag. rifles until at least 1890. However, if you wish to start a new tech. program a year or so before it was really started, you can do that, as long as you realistically display the negative effects that accompany staring any program earlier than it should start. Likewise, you can delay a program if you wish to do so for whatever reasons. Just be realistic about it.

Know How to Lose:
This is the biggest problem I see in RPs, and I have no doubt that some dummy will cause this issue at some point. In every battle, at every second, every side tries to describe some heroic definitive victory move, a "checkmate" if you will, that causes their army to emerge victorious. This results in an incredibly childish back-and-forth and makes the game un-enjoyable. if you are losing due to decisions made earlier on, then for god's sake lose! Don't try to make up some bullcrap about a single unit of soldiers that manages to survive and win the day, that's not how real war works. Now, I'm not saying that occasionally, in certain circumstances, definitive heroics aren't allowed. But when that Prussian army that is sent to crush the French main line gets decimated in a suicide charge (like many Prussian armies did), that army has LOST. If I catch anyone breaking this simple rule of integrity in a major way, there will be one warning, followed by out-the-door.

Meta-Gaming:
This is the last point I need to make. What is meta-gaming? Well, when the Japanese start thinking about negotiating a takeover of Korea, and suddenly China sends troops to occupy Korea, that's meta-gaming: because China couldn't possibly know exactly what the Japanese were thinking, but the Chinese player has chosen to act on what the Japanese player posted. This is unacceptable. Espionage was severely limited in effectiveness during this time. A player stating a simple idea in a private setting should expect that the idea remains secret. Yes, there are situations where espionage makes sense, but if you are caught acting on information that your player wouldn't have known about, you will receive a single warning, and if you do it again you will be kicked.


Link to old OOC thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=263558&p=17826807#p17826807





That is all, enjoy!




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Shimon-Zhivago wrote:
Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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FIRST
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:18 pm

I have come.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:22 pm

Jamessonia wrote:FIRST


:p You beat us all
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Postby Cobaltania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:23 pm

FOURTH

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Postby Brissia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:24 pm

Anywhoozles, my first IC post in days will be up soon.
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Shimon-Zhivago wrote:
Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:29 pm

Just wanting to continue the conversation here, so we don't have two threads at the same time:

Brissia wrote:
Cobaltania wrote:Deal with the MICOC Pact.

Most of those nations are strong Catholics.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:31 pm

Link to the first OCC Page

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=263558
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Postby Cobaltania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:31 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:Just wanting to continue the conversation here, so we don't have two threads at the same time:

Brissia wrote:Most of those nations are strong Catholics.

Just remember, Peaceful is number 1. If they refuse, we shall use the MICOC Pact's terrifying military power to scare them into submission. (P.S. that mean threatening them.) No 3, Invasion.

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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:32 pm

Cobaltania wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:Just wanting to continue the conversation here, so we don't have two threads at the same time:


Just remember, Peaceful is number 1. If they refuse, we shall use the MICOC Pact's terrifying military power to scare them into submission. (P.S. that mean threatening them.) No 3, Invasion.


If you're threatening other MOCCI nations, that would convince them to break the treaty.

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Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Cobaltania wrote:Just remember, Peaceful is number 1. If they refuse, we shall use the MICOC Pact's terrifying military power to scare them into submission. (P.S. that mean threatening them.) No 3, Invasion.


If you're threatening other MOCCI nations, that would convince them to break the treaty.


I think he was referring to the Papal States :)
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Postby Cobaltania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:34 pm

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Cobaltania wrote:Just remember, Peaceful is number 1. If they refuse, we shall use the MICOC Pact's terrifying military power to scare them into submission. (P.S. that mean threatening them.) No 3, Invasion.


If you're threatening other MOCCI nations, that would convince them to break the treaty.

No, we threaten the PAPAL STATES with the MICOC PACT'S POWER to force them to surrender.

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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:35 pm

Cobaltania wrote:First, I will not attempt to invade it forcibly. All we want is reunification with [sic] ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Peaceful is No. 1, if they refuse, well then...


I feel that invasion counts as any means necessary, aye?

Cobaltania wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
If you're threatening other MOCCI nations, that would convince them to break the treaty.

No, we threaten the PAPAL STATES with the MICOC PACT'S POWER to force them to surrender.


In that case, Catholic MOCCI nations might be persuaded to break the treaty, or at least call you out.

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Postby Brissia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:35 pm

Cobaltania wrote:
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
If you're threatening other MOCCI nations, that would convince them to break the treaty.

No, we threaten the PAPAL STATES with the MICOC PACT'S POWER to force them to surrender.

You're threatening the seat of the Catholic Church, when you and your aid are all strongly Catholic....also, me.
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Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:36 pm

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Cobaltania wrote:No, we threaten the PAPAL STATES with the MICOC PACT'S POWER to force them to surrender.

You're threatening the seat of the Catholic Church, when you and your aid are all strongly Catholic....also, me.


I don't remember Austria entering MICOC :unsure:
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Postby Cobaltania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:37 pm

Brissia wrote:
Cobaltania wrote:No, we threaten the PAPAL STATES with the MICOC PACT'S POWER to force them to surrender.

You're threatening the seat of the Catholic Church, when you and your aid are all strongly Catholic....also, me.

:palm: Peaceful 1, Threaten 2, War 3

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Postby Brissia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:37 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Brissia wrote:You're threatening the seat of the Catholic Church, when you and your aid are all strongly Catholic....also, me.


I don't remember Austria entering MICOC :unsure:

But I am Catholic.

Speaking of MICOC, I'll be glad to enter.
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Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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Postby Brissia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:37 pm

Cobaltania wrote:
Brissia wrote:You're threatening the seat of the Catholic Church, when you and your aid are all strongly Catholic....also, me.

:palm: Peaceful 1, Threaten 2, War 3

The Papal States don't want unification.
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Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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Postby Cobaltania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:38 pm

Brissia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
I don't remember Austria entering MICOC :unsure:

But I am Catholic.

Speaking of MICOC, I'll be glad to enter.

MICOCA? Once we get a 7th nation we're gonna need to tweak the name.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:38 pm

Brissia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
I don't remember Austria entering MICOC :unsure:

But I am Catholic.

Speaking of MICOC, I'll be glad to enter.


I know :P I just thought it was funny the way you structured your sentence :p

And, no thanks. We are good :meh:
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:39 pm

Brissia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
I don't remember Austria entering MICOC :unsure:

But I am Catholic.

Speaking of MICOC, I'll be glad to enter.


why does everyone want to enter micoc :rofl:

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Postby Cobaltania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:39 pm

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Cobaltania wrote: :palm: Peaceful 1, Threaten 2, War 3

The Papal States don't want unification.

Why don't the Pope go to Austria then?....

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:39 pm

Cobaltania wrote:
Brissia wrote:But I am Catholic.

Speaking of MICOC, I'll be glad to enter.

MICOCA? Once we get a 7th nation we're gonna need to tweak the name.


Wow, wow. You can just let everyone in without the original members' permission >:(
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:40 pm

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Brissia wrote:But I am Catholic.

Speaking of MICOC, I'll be glad to enter.


why does everyone want to enter micoc :rofl:


Lol :rofl:

I guess we were very positive about it, so more people were drawn to the idea :p
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Postby Cobaltania » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:40 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Cobaltania wrote:MICOCA? Once we get a 7th nation we're gonna need to tweak the name.


Wow, wow. You can just let everyone in without the original members' permission >:(
:P

Well then, Let's talk about Austria's admission into the MICOC Pact, shall we?

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