Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:They actually sound more like Authoritarians to me than Conservatives.
Indeed.
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by Harbertia » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:41 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:They actually sound more like Authoritarians to me than Conservatives.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:42 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Novia... but you're a... somedays you really are the Crazy Uncle XD Cause you make no sense at times.
I'm not a communist, I just like the Soviets from Red Alert 2.
I'm actually a Libertarian Capitalist or whatever c: I like freedom and stuff.Charmera wrote:Order wasn't exactly Liberal... In fact they were uber conservative.
Also, are all the sanctioned completely emotionless while sanctioning works, or is there some leeway with their personalities?
They actually sound more like Authoritarians to me than Conservatives.

by Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:42 pm
Charmera wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Does he have the powers? Yas
Did he work for the liberal, commie, pinko scum known as Order? Yas
He was a sanctioned.
Order wasn't exactly Liberal... In fact they were uber conservative.
Also, are all the sanctioned completely emotionless while sanctioning works, or is there some leeway with their personalities?

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:43 pm
by Personal Freedom » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:43 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Novia... but you're a... somedays you really are the Crazy Uncle XD Cause you make no sense at times.
I'm not a communist, I just like the Soviets from Red Alert 2.
I'm actually a Libertarian Capitalist or whatever c: I like freedom and stuff.Charmera wrote:Order wasn't exactly Liberal... In fact they were uber conservative.
Also, are all the sanctioned completely emotionless while sanctioning works, or is there some leeway with their personalities?
They actually sound more like Authoritarians to me than Conservatives.

by Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:45 pm

by Harbertia » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:50 pm
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:The Order always seemed pretty conservative to me... maybe economically libertarian... then again did they practice a form of socialism for the economy that allowed for private businesses?

by Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:50 pm
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:The Order always seemed pretty conservative to me... maybe economically libertarian... then again did they practice a form of socialism for the economy that allowed for private businesses?
by Personal Freedom » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:51 pm
Personal Freedom wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
I'm not a communist, I just like the Soviets from Red Alert 2.
I'm actually a Libertarian Capitalist or whatever c: I like freedom and stuff.
They actually sound more like Authoritarians to me than Conservatives.
CONSERVATIVE; Socially Authoritarian Economically Right
LIBERAL: Socially Libertarian Economically Left
COMMUNIST/FASCIST: Socially Authoritarian Economically Left.
LIBERTARIAN: Socially Libertarian Economically Right

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:52 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:The Order always seemed pretty conservative to me... maybe economically libertarian... then again did they practice a form of socialism for the economy that allowed for private businesses?
They were economically socialist from what I know of. Lots of regulation on businesses but not an outright ban on large businesses like communists. They did have a militarized police force, condoned nationalism and discriminated against a particular set of people. So they have some aspects of Nazism in there too. What a weird bunch.

by Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:53 pm
Harbertia wrote:Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:The Order always seemed pretty conservative to me... maybe economically libertarian... then again did they practice a form of socialism for the economy that allowed for private businesses?
They did, you can read more about the economy on the Order's page. I based it off of the economic system of Nazi Germany.

by Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:54 pm

by Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:56 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
They were economically socialist from what I know of. Lots of regulation on businesses but not an outright ban on large businesses like communists. They did have a militarized police force, condoned nationalism and discriminated against a particular set of people. So they have some aspects of Nazism in there too. What a weird bunch.
Nazi= National Socialist Party of Germany
Therefore the Order, if based off Nazi Germany, would be the Right version of Communism and thus Fascism.

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by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:59 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Personal Freedom wrote:Fixed
Not all communist ideologies were Authoritarian. Marxism was a freedom loving ideology that involved robots doing all the work while we humans mess about.Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Nazi= National Socialist Party of Germany
Therefore the Order, if based off Nazi Germany, would be the Right version of Communism and thus Fascism.
Discrimination isn't really exclusive to National Socialism or Fascism for that matter. So they were National Socialists but they had Nazi ideals thrown in there too.
by Personal Freedom » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:00 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Personal Freedom wrote:Fixed
Not all communist ideologies were Authoritarian. Marxism was a freedom loving ideology that involved robots doing all the work while we humans mess about.Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Nazi= National Socialist Party of Germany
Therefore the Order, if based off Nazi Germany, would be the Right version of Communism and thus Fascism.
Discrimination isn't really exclusive to National Socialism or Fascism for that matter. So they were National Socialists but they had Nazi ideals thrown in there too.

by Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:01 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Not all communist ideologies were Authoritarian. Marxism was a freedom loving ideology that involved robots doing all the work while we humans mess about.
Discrimination isn't really exclusive to National Socialism or Fascism for that matter. So they were National Socialists but they had Nazi ideals thrown in there too.
Oh no, I mean discrimination is evident everywhere Communism, Fascism, even whatever name you give to real Freedom. The only way to decrease discrimination is to raise compassion- which is not an easy thing to do.

by Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:01 pm
Personal Freedom wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Not all communist ideologies were Authoritarian. Marxism was a freedom loving ideology that involved robots doing all the work while we humans mess about.
Discrimination isn't really exclusive to National Socialism or Fascism for that matter. So they were National Socialists but they had Nazi ideals thrown in there too.
Marxism is socialist. Communism was the application of it by the Soviets and others.
by Personal Freedom » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:02 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Not all communist ideologies were Authoritarian. Marxism was a freedom loving ideology that involved robots doing all the work while we humans mess about.
Discrimination isn't really exclusive to National Socialism or Fascism for that matter. So they were National Socialists but they had Nazi ideals thrown in there too.
Oh no, I mean discrimination is evident everywhere Communism, Fascism, even whatever name you give to real Freedom. The only way to decrease discrimination is to raise compassion- which is not an easy thing to do.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:02 pm

by Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:03 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Not all communist ideologies were Authoritarian. Marxism was a freedom loving ideology that involved robots doing all the work while we humans mess about.
Discrimination isn't really exclusive to National Socialism or Fascism for that matter. So they were National Socialists but they had Nazi ideals thrown in there too.
Oh no, I mean discrimination is evident everywhere Communism, Fascism, even whatever name you give to real Freedom. The only way to decrease discrimination is to raise compassion- which is not an easy thing to do.
Personal Freedom wrote:Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Not all communist ideologies were Authoritarian. Marxism was a freedom loving ideology that involved robots doing all the work while we humans mess about.
Discrimination isn't really exclusive to National Socialism or Fascism for that matter. So they were National Socialists but they had Nazi ideals thrown in there too.
Marxism is socialist. Communism was the application of it by the Soviets and others.

by Harbertia » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:03 pm
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Compassion.... but more importantly to truly eradicate discrimination is through mass education teaching the next generation the values of tolerance and diversity and the amoral sentiments behind hatred and discrimination.
by Personal Freedom » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:06 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Oh no, I mean discrimination is evident everywhere Communism, Fascism, even whatever name you give to real Freedom. The only way to decrease discrimination is to raise compassion- which is not an easy thing to do.
When you put it that way, every ideology is discriminatory towards one person or another.Personal Freedom wrote:Marxism is socialist. Communism was the application of it by the Soviets and others.
There are communist ideals though in there like the central pool of resources thing. Sounded like he was looking at a resource based economy too.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:06 pm
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Oh no, I mean discrimination is evident everywhere Communism, Fascism, even whatever name you give to real Freedom. The only way to decrease discrimination is to raise compassion- which is not an easy thing to do.
When you put it that way, every ideology is discriminatory towards one person or another.Personal Freedom wrote:Marxism is socialist. Communism was the application of it by the Soviets and others.
There are communist ideals though in there like the central pool of resources thing. Sounded like he was looking at a resource based economy too.
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