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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:17 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Oh, I think it would be shitty of me to just say "DO IT OR ELSE", but I do want to lay out my argument here. I'll accept whichever - either Smythe accepting Page's orders or bringing it back up at the base or whichever, but there is some further clarification I can do.
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Kouralia wrote:SO, that leaves him as outranking Noble.

Correct.

Kouralia wrote:
Can execution of a PoW be justified as retribution of that? Because 'Captain, could you watch over our little rascal here for me for a moment?' being the orders, randomly choking him is clearly not in response to a rapidly developing threat.

Let's look at the facts for a second:
1) This guy was German, IE an enemy operative.
2) This guy was effectively taken prisoner.
3) After being taken prisoner, guy acts in such a way that could kill all of us, deliberately.
4) Due to circumstances, very little can practically be done to restrain this guy. Dire and immediate danger, probable lack of restraints, etc.
5) As such, two practicable options exist: a) to let the guy basically keep doing what he's doing, after already having proven that he is a literal flight risk of the worst kind, or b) ensure he is not a threat through the most expeditious and efficient way possible.
While Page's own grudge played a considerable part in the decision, I think it can be defended logically.

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Well, she's 'Sword Lead', for this operation, so I'd say she comes in on top.

Recalling the Tempsford thread from months and months ago, the upshot of it was that due to the super-secret nature of Excalibur, losing somewhere between four and seven members (most officers, and one of them the leader), effectively retired the squadron from the front lines. Page was taken off of the active list and never actually replaced officially as squadron leader. When the squadron was sort-of reactivated for Highwire, Alix became acting S-L (unofficially, due to disagreements in command over who should be acting leader and whether or not she was fit for the job) with the understanding that if the op was successful, Page would retain his rank and return to command as soon as he was capable, assuming that he hadn't broken in captivity or sustained irreparable physical or mental damage.
So now Page is sort of back, and maybe-technically in command, but it's definitely a gray area.

Len Hyet wrote:Cop out. Should have made it turn out that Page is a mentally unstable Captain in the Army who escaped from a mental hospital and forged his papers.

Thanks for blowing the entire 1942 plot twist, jerk.
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Postby The balkens » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:25 pm

Writers block......... :unsure:

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:26 pm

The balkens wrote:Writers block......... :unsure:

In all fairness, how can you possibly have writers' block?
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Postby The balkens » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:36 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The balkens wrote:Writers block......... :unsure:

In all fairness, how can you possibly have writers' block?


I can't think of anything to write! All I have in my head is comedic dialogue between Michael and Josh. Unless you want comic relief.......

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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:51 pm

The balkens wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:In all fairness, how can you possibly have writers' block?


I can't think of anything to write! All I have in my head is comedic dialogue between Michael and Josh. Unless you want comic relief.......

well dietrich is about to run into a wall of 20mm and .303 calibur lead. so there's a start.

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Postby Le-Quebec » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:16 pm

Yes, I actually bothered to do this. :lol:

No Celebrities were Harmed: Simply played straight up to eleven for the sake of practical convenience: all of the characters' vintage looking dossier photographs are in fact those of real world figures. Examples listed include:
-Noble's is one of the British actress Keira Knightley (Atonement, The Duchess).
-The Danish actor Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Game of Thrones, Oblivion) serves as Page's.
-Isabelle uses the appearance of the French actress Léa Seydoux (Inglorious Basterds, Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol)
-It should be noted that Melody has the distinction of being the only character whose "photograph" is in fact animated; she is modeled off the character Jisuri from the Japanese manga and anime series Upotte!.

The majority of the rest of the cast deploy period photographs of historical characters:

-Stanford using the face of RAF Victoria Cross recipient Geoffrey Cheshire,
-Vegesack with the German fighter ace Adolf Galland, whose is currently one of two highest ranking photo figures alongside Higgins, possessing the rank of General de Flieger.
-Talbot and the British actor Leslie Howard (Gone with the Wind, Of Human Bondage)
-Fodder with the British LRDG officer David Owen,
-Silva and USAAF fighter ace Elmer Koonce,
-Marchand using a photo of the British actress Kirsten Cooke (both of whom are French Resistance operators in their respective character roles).
-Waddock and an actual photograph of a WAAF officer who appears on the online blog of a British family.
-Higgins, who alongside Vegesack, is based off the physical appearance of a high ranking military commander: this time being the British Army general Frank Messervy.
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Postby Monfrox » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:22 pm

I'm so putting that in right fucking now.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:08 am

Le-Quebec wrote:Yes, I actually bothered to do this. :lol:

No Celebrities were Harmed: Simply played straight up to eleven for the sake of practical convenience: all of the characters' vintage looking dossier photographs are in fact those of real world figures. Examples listed include:
-Noble's is one of the British actress Keira Knightley (Atonement, The Duchess).
-The Danish actor Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Game of Thrones, Oblivion) serves as Page's.
-Isabelle uses the appearance of the French actress Léa Seydoux (Inglorious Basterds, Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol)
-It should be noted that Melody has the distinction of being the only character whose "photograph" is in fact animated; she is modeled off the character Jisuri from the Japanese manga and anime series Upotte!.

The majority of the rest of the cast deploy period photographs of historical characters:

-Stanford using the face of RAF Victoria Cross recipient Geoffrey Cheshire,
-Vegesack with the German fighter ace Adolf Galland, whose is currently one of two highest ranking photo figures alongside Higgins, possessing the rank of General de Flieger.
-Talbot and the British actor Leslie Howard (Gone with the Wind, Of Human Bondage)
-Fodder with the British LRDG officer David Owen,
-Silva and USAAF fighter ace Elmer Koonce,
-Marchand using a photo of the British actress Kirsten Cooke (both of whom are French Resistance operators in their respective character roles).
-Waddock and an actual photograph of a WAAF officer who appears on the online blog of a British family.
-Higgins, who alongside Vegesack, is based off the physical appearance of a high ranking military commander: this time being the British Army general Frank Messervy.

Excellent work!
And I think Pat's is John Wayne, unless he never edited that in.
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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:38 am

who was the guy who played Frantisek in the "bloody foreigners" documentary? i think i found a look for Michael.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:43 am

The balkens wrote:who was the guy who played Frantisek in the "bloody foreigners" documentary? i think i found a look for Michael.

IMDb turns up somebody named Jon Lolis.

Also, fun fact: Lothar von Sporrenburg, Konrad's dad/SS superior, is a doppelganger of this particular film director:
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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:51 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The balkens wrote:who was the guy who played Frantisek in the "bloody foreigners" documentary? i think i found a look for Michael.

IMDb turns up somebody named Jon Lolis.

Also, fun fact: Lothar von Sporrenburg, Konrad's dad/SS superior, is a doppelganger of this particular film director:
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danke heavy panzer.


for some reason i think of konrads father being a pretentious asshat. then again, i think the same of konrad.....

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:13 am

The balkens wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:IMDb turns up somebody named Jon Lolis.

Also, fun fact: Lothar von Sporrenburg, Konrad's dad/SS superior, is a doppelganger of this particular film director:



danke heavy panzer.


for some reason i think of konrads father being a pretentious asshat. then again, i think the same of konrad.....

Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, but Lothar has way more Nazi cred than Konrad does. Think about it: Lothar actually fought in the trenches in WW1 as one of von Hutier's storm troops, joined the Nazis at the start, went to jail with Hitler during the Putsch, helped found the SS, rose up the ranks...
All Konrad's done is have a little fun curbstomping the Republicans in Spain with the Condor Legion, win a few victories in Poland and France with the Kompanie of super-elites his dad handed him, and promptly fail to destroy his Allied counterpart...repeatedly.
Konrad's brothers may not be as ambitious, but at least they get stuff done reliably. We may meet the rest of them later.

EDIT: Kinda realized I was really hanging on Kour's response here, so we'll see what happens with that before my next post, which I may be able to get up before I go on vacation from tomorrow afternoon to new year's.
I am going to bring my laptop, though, so maybe I can get some one-shot work done.
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Postby Morrdh » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:31 am

Le-Quebec wrote:-Fodder with the British LRDG officer David Owen


I'd wondered when somebody would notice! :P

Probably throw in something like Ace Mechanic for Kaya if there is a tropes for that.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:36 am

Morrdh wrote:
Le-Quebec wrote:-Fodder with the British LRDG officer David Owen


I'd wondered when somebody would notice! :P

Probably throw in something like Ace Mechanic if there is a tropes for that.

I'm terrified of troping for my characters - it seems so weird to interpret and dissect my own creations that way. It feels...very reductive.
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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:41 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
I'd wondered when somebody would notice! :P

Probably throw in something like Ace Mechanic if there is a tropes for that.

I'm terrified of troping for my characters - it seems so weird to interpret and dissect my own creations that way. It feels...very reductive.


and how does that make you feel tigger? trust me, i'm a psychiatrist.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:42 am

The balkens wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:I'm terrified of troping for my characters - it seems so weird to interpret and dissect my own creations that way. It feels...very reductive.


and how does that make you feel tigger? trust me, i'm a psychiatrist.

I just told you how it felt, though.
As to how I feel, I trust my work speaks for itself. I emote through my art.
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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:44 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The balkens wrote:
and how does that make you feel tigger? trust me, i'm a psychiatrist.

I just told you how it felt, though.
As to how I feel, I trust my work speaks for itself. I emote through my art.


we need more sessions, that will be 500 bucks. *motions hand in a fork it over motion*

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:46 am

The balkens wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:I just told you how it felt, though.
As to how I feel, I trust my work speaks for itself. I emote through my art.


we need more sessions, that will be 500 bucks. *motions hand in a fork it over motion*

I'll counter that with an offer to pull a Dali - in lieu of actual payment, I will sign (or "autograph") something of your choosing.
In time, it shall far exceed that pittance you quoted me.
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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:49 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The balkens wrote:
we need more sessions, that will be 500 bucks. *motions hand in a fork it over motion*

I'll counter that with an offer to pull a Dali - in lieu of actual payment, I will sign (or "autograph") something of your choosing.
In time, it shall far exceed that pittance you quoted me.


you mistake me for being a fan of yours. :p
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:52 am

The balkens wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:I'll counter that with an offer to pull a Dali - in lieu of actual payment, I will sign (or "autograph") something of your choosing.
In time, it shall far exceed that pittance you quoted me.


you mistake me for being a fan of yours.

You don't have to be a fan of mine to be a fan of making money off of my talent.
At any rate, I think you're lying - nobody who came this close, for this long, to the white-hot crucible of my creativity couldn't be a fan of mine.
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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:58 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The balkens wrote:
you mistake me for being a fan of yours.

You don't have to be a fan of mine to be a fan of making money off of my talent.
At any rate, I think you're lying - nobody who came this close, for this long, to the white-hot crucible of my creativity couldn't be a fan of mine.


you took the plot of so many ww2 novels and movies and youre recreating a scene from batman.

yep, total defintion of talent like Law and order for the us ww2 nerds.

*just kidding tiger. youre one of the more creative writers in the portal, and i respect that.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:00 am

The balkens wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:You don't have to be a fan of mine to be a fan of making money off of my talent.
At any rate, I think you're lying - nobody who came this close, for this long, to the white-hot crucible of my creativity couldn't be a fan of mine.


you took the plot of so many ww2 novels and movies
and youre recreating a scene from batman.

yep, total defintion of talent.

...I just won't say anything here.
The balkens wrote:*just kidding tiger. youre one of the more creative writers in the portal, and i respect that.

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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:01 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The balkens wrote:
you took the plot of so many ww2 novels and movies
and youre recreating a scene from batman.

yep, total defintion of talent.

...I just won't say anything here.
The balkens wrote:*just kidding tiger. youre one of the more creative writers in the portal, and i respect that.

Thank you.



now lets hug it out to complete your court mandated therapy. :hug:

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:02 am

The balkens wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
...I just won't say anything here.

Thank you.



now lets hug it out to complete your court mandated therapy. :hug:

*awkwardly goes for handshake instead*
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Postby The balkens » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:03 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The balkens wrote:

now lets hug it out to complete your court mandated therapy. :hug:

*awkwardly goes for handshake instead*


and we are back to square one.....accept the hug......dont make it wierd....DONT MAKE THIS WIERD!

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