Excalibur Squadron OOC 2: The Song Remains the Same

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Parachutes are generally not strong enough to accommodate two people, and there's no guaranteed way to make sure both persons can be secured (desperate, ridiculously dramatic/romantic embraces aside). Granted, Page has been starved for a month and a half and Ali's kind of a waif at the best of times, but still.

If anyone is going to share a parachute, it would be Noble and Talbot, considering they're both about the same weight to begin with.

Seeing as how Talbot was basically tiny to begin with and has been on starvation rations for weeks, I'd be concerned in making sure the parachute opening wouldn't tear his shoulders apart.

[Goram]

Apache.

Looks pretty nasty if you ask me, shouldn't like to be face to face with a fellow with one of those. Might not work so well, but it looks down right scary. Definitely not the most scary thing named "Apache" mind.

According to my "World's Worst Weapons" book here (in which the Apache features), apparently actually shooting the gun was mostly useless as the caliber was very small and actual speed of the launched bullet was very slow, to which is added the fact that all the gasses were ejected basically right onto your fingers and hand. The blade's fairly flimsy as well.
The knuckleduster piece works fairly well, though.

Yes, but your average bloke doesn't know that. All they see is a gun, knuckleduster and bayonet rolled into one. I mean, a close range weapon, especially if you're mugging/robbing someone in the street (which I assume someone with weapon like that probably is, because if it was a hit or something like that you'd probably take something a little more reliable. .38, anyone?), probably benefits more from looking scary than actual killing power. If you don't know how useless the weapon is and someone pulls a combo bayonet, knuckleduster, pistol on you, it'd probably be a case of

"Here's my wallet. Have a good one, mate."

[The Two Jerseys]

If anyone is going to share a parachute, it would be Noble and Talbot, considering they're both about the same weight to begin with.

Seeing as how Talbot was basically tiny to begin with and has been on starvation rations for weeks, I'd be concerned in making sure the parachute opening wouldn't tear his shoulders apart.

That's assuming that he'd even be able to pull the rip cord with his left hand.

Yeah, riding the plane in is starting to sound like the more attractive option...

[Morrdh]

So be wary of shitty scholarship.

Know that all too well.

The old PoW camp near where I first lived is listed as being in the wrong place in a single book that everyone has taken as fact (including English Heritage) despite all the other books on it and photographs clearly showing it to be in a completely different location.

Will post in Highwire later, presently 6am here and I have to leave for work soon.

[Grenartia]

According to my "World's Worst Weapons" book here (in which the Apache features), apparently actually shooting the gun was mostly useless as the caliber was very small and actual speed of the launched bullet was very slow, to which is added the fact that all the gasses were ejected basically right onto your fingers and hand. The blade's fairly flimsy as well.
The knuckleduster piece works fairly well, though.

Yes, but your average bloke doesn't know that. All they see is a gun, knuckleduster and bayonet rolled into one. I mean, a close range weapon, especially if you're mugging/robbing someone in the street (which I assume someone with weapon like that probably is, because if it was a hit or something like that you'd probably take something a little more reliable. .38, anyone?), probably benefits more from looking scary than actual killing power. If you don't know how useless the weapon is and someone pulls a combo bayonet, knuckleduster, pistol on you, it'd probably be a case of

"Here's my wallet. Have a good one, mate."

You know, I've always wanted to screw around and make a more effective multi-weapon design. I'm thinking combination shotgun, baseball bat, and machete.

[Kouralia]

Parachutes are generally not strong enough to accommodate two people, and there's no guaranteed way to make sure both persons can be secured (desperate, ridiculously dramatic/romantic embraces aside). Granted, Page has been starved for a month and a half and Ali's kind of a waif at the best of times, but still.

If anyone is going to share a parachute, it would be Noble and Talbot, considering they're both about the same weight to begin with.

Ppl, stop trying to share parachutes. Smythe is trying to be gud nco. D:

[Grenartia]

If anyone is going to share a parachute, it would be Noble and Talbot, considering they're both about the same weight to begin with.

Ppl, stop trying to share parachutes. Smythe is trying to be gud nco. D:

Is anybody on board Russian?

[Le-Quebec]

If anyone is going to share a parachute, it would be Noble and Talbot, considering they're both about the same weight to begin with.

It's French, what did you expect?

the french do seem to have a tendency to screw up weapons.

I'm sure the Brits here will have to disagree at least in some way, or at least anyone serving in the Royal Navy during the 80's; there's a big reason of why sales of *ahem* that thing *cough* skyrocketed after the Sheffield went down.

Yes, I'm well are of the fact of how the warship was overloaded with aluminum and magnesium in order to lighten it up as to shorten the trip to *ahem* them islands *cough*. But still, a fire has to have some sort of spark.

[Goram]

the french do seem to have a tendency to screw up weapons.

I'm sure the Brits here will have to disagree at least in some way, or at least anyone serving in the Royal Navy during the 80's; there's a big reason of why sales of *ahem* that thing *cough* skyrocketed after the Sheffield went down.

Yes, I'm well are of the fact of how the warship was overloaded with aluminum and magnesium in order to lighten it up as to shorten the trip to *ahem* them islands *cough*. But still, a fire has to have some sort of spark.

Also: Mirage, Mystere, Super Etendart. All French, all sold well (ish) over seas.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

the french do seem to have a tendency to screw up weapons.

I'm sure the Brits here will have to disagree at least in some way, or at least anyone serving in the Royal Navy during the 80's; there's a big reason of why sales of *ahem* that thing *cough* skyrocketed after the Sheffield went down.

Yes, I'm well are of the fact of how the warship was overloaded with aluminum and magnesium in order to lighten it up as to shorten the trip to *ahem* them islands *cough*. But still, a fire has to have some sort of spark.

1. I should have specified hand held weapons.
2. Magnesium is actually really fucking flamible, and tends to explode when touched by water. we have to use special extinguishers to put out magnesium fires because hose lines make it worse.

[Kouralia]

Have you got any examples of srsly screwed up Modern small-arms?

[The balkens]

Have you got any examples of srsly screwed up Modern small-arms?

I have a few ideas........

the SA80, feels awkward in the hands, weird ass bolt placement. other then that its a fine weapon.

[Kouralia]

Have you got any examples of srsly screwed up Modern small-arms?

I have a few ideas........

the SA80, feels awkward in the hands, weird ass bolt placement. other then that its a fine weapon.

>srsly screwed up
>'I personally don't like the ergonomics' and 'Breaks Jaws'

Okay, the latter is a minor point, but the former is... a case of dwi.

[The balkens]

I have a few ideas........

the SA80, feels awkward in the hands, weird ass bolt placement. other then that its a fine weapon.

>srsly screwed up
>'I personally don't like the ergonomics' and 'Breaks Jaws'

Okay, the latter is a minor point, but the former is... a case of dwi.

DONT JUDGE ME.

[Kouralia]

>srsly screwed up
>'I personally don't like the ergonomics' and 'Breaks Jaws'

Okay, the latter is a minor point, but the former is... a case of dwi.

DONT JUDGE ME.

And as for you Balkens... judgement time.

[The balkens]

DONT JUDGE ME.

And as for you Balkens... judgement time.

FUCK DA POLICE!

[The balkens]

Alrighty, children. I'll be gone for a day or so.....

Later.

[Morrdh]

I have a few ideas........

the SA80, feels awkward in the hands, weird ass bolt placement. other then that its a fine weapon.

>srsly screwed up
>'I personally don't like the ergonomics' and 'Breaks Jaws'

Okay, the latter is a minor point, but the former is... a case of dwi.

Truth be told the SA80 was a pretty crappy weapon, had to be redesigned by H&K to become halfway decent.

Bring back the L1A1 SLR!

[Monfrox]

>srsly screwed up
>'I personally don't like the ergonomics' and 'Breaks Jaws'

Okay, the latter is a minor point, but the former is... a case of dwi.

Truth be told the SA80 was a pretty crappy weapon, had to be redesigned by H&K to become halfway decent.

Bring back the L1A1 SLR!

You mean like the M4?

[Morrdh]

Truth be told the SA80 was a pretty crappy weapon, had to be redesigned by H&K to become halfway decent.

Bring back the L1A1 SLR!

You mean like the M4?

Since I'm not familiar with the M4 I can't really comment.

[Monfrox]

You mean like the M4?

Since I'm not familiar with the M4 I can't really comment.

H&K took the M4 system and made it better.

HK416 is a beast of a weapon.

[Kouralia]

Since I'm not familiar with the M4 I can't really comment.

H&K took the M4 system and made it better.

HK416 is a beast of a weapon.

More like M16 compared w/ A1-onwards. As in the M4 isn't bad, but the original M16 was bad, as was the original L85.

[Monfrox]

H&K took the M4 system and made it better.

HK416 is a beast of a weapon.

More like M16 compared w/ A1-onwards. As in the M4 isn't bad, but the original M16 was bad, as was the original L85.

Why are we so bad at making weapons now?

I want the M14 back.

But first I want a G3A3.

[Len Hyet]

More like M16 compared w/ A1-onwards. As in the M4 isn't bad, but the original M16 was bad, as was the original L85.

Why are we so bad at making weapons now?

I want the M14 back.

But first I want a G3A3.

And I want the Mark IV Plasma Pistol, but life just isn't fair.

[Kouralia]

More like M16 compared w/ A1-onwards. As in the M4 isn't bad, but the original M16 was bad, as was the original L85.

Why are we so bad at making weapons now?

I want the M14 back.

But first I want a G3A3.

I want the EM2...

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT, 7.62 NATO! GOD DAMN YOUUUUU!