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by Monfrox » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:06 pm
Xing wrote:Yeah but you also are the best at roleplay. (yay Space Core references) I'm pretty sure a four man tank crew is no problem for someone that had 27 different RP characters going at one time.
The Grey Wolf wrote:Froxy knows how to use a whip, I speak from experience.
by Len Hyet » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:41 pm
GOram wrote:So, Yanks, I require your help. Much as I am an Englishman, I've always been somewhat fascinated by the U.S. Civil War. Something about the Confederacy and the Union has a certain romance to it. From a purely military point of view, there are obvious parallels with the Great War and, baring in mind the writings of Ludendorff and (to a lesser extent) Clausewitz, it's a total war.
Unfortunately, I don't know all that much about it and UK book shops are unfortunately light on the subject (which is unsurprising, despite the significant impact of the event). Don't really want to be wasting by meagre funds, shooting in the dark online, so, I put it to you - what are the best books on the Civil War (Mon, Tiger, Quebec, I get the feeling I'm looking to you here).
by Goram » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:28 pm
Len Hyet wrote:GOram wrote:So, Yanks, I require your help. Much as I am an Englishman, I've always been somewhat fascinated by the U.S. Civil War. Something about the Confederacy and the Union has a certain romance to it. From a purely military point of view, there are obvious parallels with the Great War and, baring in mind the writings of Ludendorff and (to a lesser extent) Clausewitz, it's a total war.
Unfortunately, I don't know all that much about it and UK book shops are unfortunately light on the subject (which is unsurprising, despite the significant impact of the event). Don't really want to be wasting by meagre funds, shooting in the dark online, so, I put it to you - what are the best books on the Civil War (Mon, Tiger, Quebec, I get the feeling I'm looking to you here).
Bah, I'm offended! I'm very interested in the Civil War. You'll want to get The Civil War Trilogy: Gods and Generals / The Killer Angels / The Last Full Measure for sure. It's a slightly (though very slightly) dramatized account of the Civil War from beginning to end, rather objectively showing both sides of the conflict.
Also, does anyone here by chance read the Destroyermen series?
by The Two Jerseys » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:29 pm
GOram wrote:So, Yanks, I require your help. Much as I am an Englishman, I've always been somewhat fascinated by the U.S. Civil War. Something about the Confederacy and the Union has a certain romance to it. From a purely military point of view, there are obvious parallels with the Great War and, baring in mind the writings of Ludendorff and (to a lesser extent) Clausewitz, it's a total war.
Unfortunately, I don't know all that much about it and UK book shops are unfortunately light on the subject (which is unsurprising, despite the significant impact of the event). Don't really want to be wasting by meagre funds, shooting in the dark online, so, I put it to you - what are the best books on the Civil War (Mon, Tiger, Quebec, I get the feeling I'm looking to you here).
by Monfrox » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:30 pm
GOram wrote:Len Hyet wrote:
Bah, I'm offended! I'm very interested in the Civil War. You'll want to get The Civil War Trilogy: Gods and Generals / The Killer Angels / The Last Full Measure for sure. It's a slightly (though very slightly) dramatized account of the Civil War from beginning to end, rather objectively showing both sides of the conflict.
Also, does anyone here by chance read the Destroyermen series?
In the words of the movie Battle of Britain
"Didn't know you were with us"
But yeah, thanks man. Heard those books are good (so are the movies), but I'm looking for something a little more academic in nature?
Xing wrote:Yeah but you also are the best at roleplay. (yay Space Core references) I'm pretty sure a four man tank crew is no problem for someone that had 27 different RP characters going at one time.
The Grey Wolf wrote:Froxy knows how to use a whip, I speak from experience.
by Gibberan » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:37 pm
Sort ofMonfrox wrote:GOram wrote:
In the words of the movie Battle of Britain
"Didn't know you were with us"
But yeah, thanks man. Heard those books are good (so are the movies), but I'm looking for something a little more academic in nature?
IIRC didn't the British try to take advantage of the US during the Civil War somehow?
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Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by Goram » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:05 pm
by Gibberan » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:38 pm
GOram wrote:
The Trent Affair is hardly the British taking advantage. The British did, however, supply the Confederacy with a degree of materiel support which the South couldn't adequately manufacture alone (i.e. rifled cannon and at least two ships, one of which was the raider CSS Alabama). At the same time, the British traded with the Union as well, so, it's swings and roundabouts really.
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by The Two Jerseys » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:57 pm
Gibberan wrote:Also,
I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy,
A Yankee Doodle, do or die;
A real live nephew of my Uncle Sam,
Born on the Fourth of July.
I've got a Yankee Doodle sweetheart,
She's my Yankee Doodle joy.
Yankee Doodle came to London, just to ride the ponies;
I am the Yankee Doodle Boy!
And, yes, I copy/pasted that fom Wikipedia
by Len Hyet » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:00 pm
GOram wrote:Len Hyet wrote:
Bah, I'm offended! I'm very interested in the Civil War. You'll want to get The Civil War Trilogy: Gods and Generals / The Killer Angels / The Last Full Measure for sure. It's a slightly (though very slightly) dramatized account of the Civil War from beginning to end, rather objectively showing both sides of the conflict.
Also, does anyone here by chance read the Destroyermen series?
In the words of the movie Battle of Britain
"Didn't know you were with us"
But yeah, thanks man. Heard those books are good (so are the movies), but I'm looking for something a little more academic in nature?
by The Tiger Kingdom » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:03 pm
by Kassaran » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:07 pm
Gibberan wrote:GOram wrote:
The Trent Affair is hardly the British taking advantage. The British did, however, supply the Confederacy with a degree of materiel support which the South couldn't adequately manufacture alone (i.e. rifled cannon and at least two ships, one of which was the raider CSS Alabama). At the same time, the British traded with the Union as well, so, it's swings and roundabouts really.
The British public, for the most part anyway, supported the Union due to many being largely opposed to the continuation of slavery, which was established as a major objective in the war after the Emancipation Proclamation. It was mainly the higher-ups in the government who favored the Confederacy due to Britain's cotton and textile imports from them. Most likely due to public opinion, PM Palmerston rejected any intervention, even a British-French coalition supporting the South.
However I'm not very knowledgeable about the Civil War anyway, it's more the Spanish-American War and onward for me.
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"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by The Tamerelian Empire » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:09 pm
by Gibberan » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:19 pm
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by The Two Jerseys » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:23 pm
by Gibberan » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:27 pm
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
by Grenartia » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:23 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:43 am
Grenartia wrote:I'm currently enjoying a Community DVR watchathon
by Grenartia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:42 am
by Monfrox » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:34 am
Xing wrote:Yeah but you also are the best at roleplay. (yay Space Core references) I'm pretty sure a four man tank crew is no problem for someone that had 27 different RP characters going at one time.
The Grey Wolf wrote:Froxy knows how to use a whip, I speak from experience.
by Grenartia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:23 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:50 pm
by Gibberan » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:20 pm
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.
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