Excalibur Squadron OOC 2: The Song Remains the Same

by **Kouralia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:37 am

GOram wrote:...Royal Sovereign? What do you think she is? A battleship? Also, I'm 99% sure Royal Sovereign is still commissioned in the RN at this time. Fighting Temeraire is, again, a battleship name. Funnily enough, the Temeraire is the ship that's being hauled away for scrap in that painting. If you've seen Skyfall, the one that Bond and Q talk about is the one I mean. I'm pretty sure the name Fighting Temeraire as opposed to Temeraire is a reference to that painting.

Bah, she's going to do more damage to Nazi Germany than a Battleship could do.

Who cares if she's named after the ship in the painting named after the ship.

by **Goram** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:42 am

As previously stated in the above post, some of the suggested names are in service already. Given that I've nothing else to do right now, I thought I'd make a list of suggested names that are commissioned and therefore cannot be used. I'll add any others to this list as I find them.

by **Goram** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:43 am

Kouralia wrote:
GOram wrote:...Royal Sovereign? What do you think she is? A battleship? Also, I'm 99% sure Royal Sovereign is still commissioned in the RN at this time. Fighting Temeraire is, again, a battleship name. Funnily enough, the Temeraire is the ship that's being hauled away for scrap in that painting. If you've seen Skyfall, the one that Bond and Q talk about is the one I mean. I'm pretty sure the name Fighting Temeraire as opposed to Temeraire is a reference to that painting.

Bah, she's going to do more damage to Nazi Germany than a Battleship could do.

Who cares if she's named after the ship in the painting named after the ship.

I was only pointing out the rather clever reference

and also, Royal Navy tradition cares haha

by **Kouralia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:47 am

HMS Thunder Child - God fucking damnit Gren, I'm nominating that name too.
HMS Roy Cutler III - Obvious reasons.
HMS Saucy
HMS Royal George
HMS Baionetta

My final-er-er list.

by **United Kingdom of Poland** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:49 am

HMS Prince of Wales: the ultimate deception ploy, nobody would ever think of naming two ships the same name.
HMS Sea Lion: a little flip off to Hitler
HMS Cutlass: do I need to explain that connection
HMS Bulldog:
HMS Britannica:

by **United Kingdom of Poland** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:51 am

GOram wrote:As previously stated in the above post, some of the suggested names are in service already. Given that I've nothing else to do right now, I thought I'd make a list of suggested names that are commissioned and therefore cannot be used. I'll add any others to this list as I find them.

HMS Royal Sovereign
HMS Defiance (HMS Andromeda, only she was renamed Defiance in 1931)
HMS Odyssey

but Goram, using a name already in service is the ultimate deception ploy. If the Germans ever discover the name they'll end up looking for the wrong ships.

by **Morrdh** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:58 am

OK, a few suggestions.

1. HMS Vulcan (nod to the Avro Vulcan)
2. HMS Valiant (the Vickers Valiant)
3. HMS Victor (Handley Page Victor)
4. HMS Tempest (just 'cause)
5. HMS Oberon (after the post-WW2 class of British submarines that had a very high reputation for stealth)
6. HMS Excelsior (again just 'cause)

by **Goram** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:13 am

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
GOram wrote:As previously stated in the above post, some of the suggested names are in service already. Given that I've nothing else to do right now, I thought I'd make a list of suggested names that are commissioned and therefore cannot be used. I'll add any others to this list as I find them.

HMS Royal Sovereign
HMS Defiance (HMS Andromeda, only she was renamed Defiance in 1931)
HMS Odyssey

but Goram, using a name already in service is the ultimate deception ploy. If the Germans ever discover the name they'll end up looking for the wrong ships.

Is it? The name of the ship is largely irrelevant in it's identification - you can change the name, but it's the silhouette that gives it away (this, largely, is the point of Q Ships. Looks like a merchant man, but isn't). There's no way a Q ship is going to be mistaken for a KGV battleship. On top of that, the Abwehr can't read British naval code so getting the names of RN ships might prove difficult.

by **The Two Jerseys** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:52 am

My list for now:

HMS Camelot
HMS Avalon
HMS Pendragon (King Arthur's surname)
HMS Lady of Shalott (from the Arthurian legends and the Tennyson poem, and sounds like a rather fitting name for a "merchantman")
HMS Elaine (a recurring female name in the Arthurian legends, also in keeping with our guise as a merchantman)

by **Monfrox** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:00 am

This Operation's theme song

by **The Tiger Kingdom** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:26 pm

Monfrox wrote:This Operation's theme song

Well, you do know the origin of the word Glatisant, don't you? It's another piece of Arthurian symbolism.
The thing called Glatisant is also known as the "Questing Beast" in English. Has the head of a snake, the body of a leopard, the feet of a deer, and the ass end of a lion, which I thought was fitting, given the 2112's combined abilities. Supposedly a fearsome beast that gets hunted a lot.

by **Grenartia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:36 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
GOram wrote:As previously stated in the above post, some of the suggested names are in service already. Given that I've nothing else to do right now, I thought I'd make a list of suggested names that are commissioned and therefore cannot be used. I'll add any others to this list as I find them.

HMS Royal Sovereign
HMS Defiance (HMS Andromeda, only she was renamed Defiance in 1931)
HMS Odyssey

but Goram, using a name already in service is the ultimate deception ploy. If the Germans ever discover the name they'll end up looking for the wrong ships.

The possibility of Germans discovering the name is why I'm not going to vote for allusions to King Arthur. I mean, that's just saying "HEY! LOOKY HERE! EXCALIBUR SQUADRON IS PROBABLY ON THIS SHIP!"

by **Morrdh** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:39 pm

On a completely unrelated note, first session log of the tabletop RP campaign I'm running.

http://www.gamessoc.co.uk/forum/index.p ... 918.0.html

by **Grenartia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:but Goram, using a name already in service is the ultimate deception ploy. If the Germans ever discover the name they'll end up looking for the wrong ships.

The possibility of Germans discovering the name is why I'm not going to vote for allusions to King Arthur. I mean, that's just saying "HEY! LOOKY HERE! EXCALIBUR SQUADRON IS PROBABLY ON THIS SHIP!"

EDIT:

Out of the 5 I suggested, I'll say my two favorites are Thunder Child and Illiad. Thunder Child, for obvious reasons, but also because it doesn't scream explicitly "EXCALIBUR SQUADRON'S YACHT", and Illiad for obvious reasons.

by **Morrdh** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:43 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
The possibility of Germans discovering the name is why I'm not going to vote for allusions to King Arthur. I mean, that's just saying "HEY! LOOKY HERE! EXCALIBUR SQUADRON IS PROBABLY ON THIS SHIP!"

EDIT:

Out of the 5 I suggested, I'll say my two favorites are Thunder Child and Illiad. Thunder Child, for obvious reasons, but also because it doesn't scream explicitly "EXCALIBUR SQUADRON'S YACHT", and Illiad for obvious reasons.

IIRC a few of us like War of the Worlds, so nice tie-in there.

by **Kouralia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:51 pm

Morrdh wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
EDIT:

Out of the 5 I suggested, I'll say my two favorites are Thunder Child and Illiad. Thunder Child, for obvious reasons, but also because it doesn't scream explicitly "EXCALIBUR SQUADRON'S YACHT", and Illiad for obvious reasons.

IIRC a few of us like War of the Worlds, so nice tie-in there.

The best trailer for a War of the Worlds film would simply be a seaman running around a ship in panic, moving through it to the deck. As he runs on deck he knocks into someone and bashes a life-ring or something from the walls, landing by the camera as he runs forward toward the mist-shrouded bow to reveal the writing on it - HMS Thunder Child. Then suddenly noise and it fades to black.

by **Grenartia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:54 pm

Morrdh wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
EDIT:

Out of the 5 I suggested, I'll say my two favorites are Thunder Child and Illiad. Thunder Child, for obvious reasons, but also because it doesn't scream explicitly "EXCALIBUR SQUADRON'S YACHT", and Illiad for obvious reasons.

IIRC a few of us like War of the Worlds, so nice tie-in there.

HG Wells was a pretty kick-ass author. And War of the Worlds might just be the best thing I've read by him.

Besides, what other chance do you get to throw a classic sci-fi reference into a WWII RP?

by **Morrdh** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:55 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Morrdh wrote:
IIRC a few of us like War of the Worlds, so nice tie-in there.

HG Wells was a pretty kick-ass author. And War of the Worlds might just be the best thing I've read by him.

Besides, what other chance do you get to throw a classic sci-fi reference into a WWII RP?

I really liked his The War In The Air book.

by **The Tiger Kingdom** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:13 pm

List updated.
1. Llamrei (the name of Arthur's horse, apparently) (Tiger)
2. Stormbringer (Tiger)
3. Crusader (Tiger)
4. Lionheart (Tiger)
5. Defiant (edited) (Tiger)
6. Thunder Child (Gren/Kour I guess)
7. The Odyssey (Gren)
8. The Illiad (Gren)
9. Hercules (Gren)
10. Roy Cutler III (Kour)
11. Fighting Temeraire/Saucy (probably would be shortened to just Temeraire) (?) (Kour)
12. Baionetta (Kour)
13. Hispaniola (Gib)
14. Robert Page ( :blush:

) (Gib)
15. Bounty (Isn't that setting a bit of a bad precedent?) (Gib)
16. Nautilus (Gib)
17. Walrus (Gib)
18. Retribution (GOram)
19. Any Hornblower ship name (Justinian? Sutherland?) (GOram)
20. Prydwen (Goram)
21. Sea Lion (UKP)
22. Cutlass (UKP)
23. Britannica (UKP)
24. Victor (Morrdh)
25. Excelsior (Sorry Morrdh, all the rest were active vessels at the time) (Morrdh)
26. Camelot (TJ)
27. Avalon (TJ)
28. Pendragon (TJ)
29. Lady of Shalott (TJ)
30. Elaine (TJ)

by **Kouralia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:20 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Here's our registry of names to vote on so far. Names of active RN ships (as far as I know) have been excised. Sorry in advance:
1. Llamrei (the name of Arthur's horse, apparently)
2. Stormbringer
3. Crusader
4. Lionheart
5. Defiant (edited)
6. Thunder Child
7. The Odyssey
8. The Illiad
9. Hercules
10. Thunder Child
11. Roy Cutler III
12. Fighting Temeraire (probably would be shortened to just Temeraire)
13. Baionetta
14. Hispaniola
15. Robert Page ( )
16. Bounty (Isn't that setting a bit of a bad precedent?)
17. Nautilus
18. Walrus
19. Retribution
20. Any Hornblower ship name (Justinian? Sutherland?)
21. Prydwen
22. Sea Lion
23. Cutlass
24. Britannica
25. Victor
27. Excelsior (Sorry Morrdh, all the rest were active vessels at the time)
28. HMS Camelot
29. HMS Avalon
30. HMS Pendragon
31. HMS Lady of Shalott
32. HMS Elaine

And voting starts tomorrow, yeah?

by **The Tiger Kingdom** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:21 pm

Kouralia wrote:And voting starts tomorrow, yeah?

Correct. I wanted to make sure we weren't submitting names at the same time as we were voting for them.

by **Kouralia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:23 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Kouralia wrote:And voting starts tomorrow, yeah?

Correct. I wanted to make sure we weren't submitting names at the same time as we were voting for them.

Are we allowed to, say, give all five of our votes to one name?

by **United Kingdom of Poland** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:24 pm

revised list
HMS Cutlass
HMS Claymore
HMS Sea Lion
HMS Britannica
HMS Lili Marleen

by **The Tiger Kingdom** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:27 pm

Kouralia wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Correct. I wanted to make sure we weren't submitting names at the same time as we were voting for them.

Are we allowed to, say, give all five of our votes to one name?

...No!

...Maybe!

...I'll think about it!

by **Kouralia** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:46 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Are we allowed to, say, give all five of our votes to one name?

...No!

...Maybe!

...I'll think about it!

Because you know if I can I'm giving them to Gren's Thunder Child.

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