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by Rygondria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:47 pm

by The New Lowlands » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:47 pm
Waztaskio wrote:China now has Lowlands playing them, so he should respond as China. As for Russia, if he doesn't post he will be counted abstained.
Rygondria wrote:-snip-

by Zeinbrad » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:47 pm

by Imperium Nova » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:48 pm
The New Lowlands wrote:Ptolemais wrote:Hey, any interest in the northern alliance between Canada, Norway, Sweden and Denmark? I think that would be really cool since we all share an 1)Arctic culture. Maybe Russia can join later.
It would be an interesting 2)alternative to the EU, which let's be honest, 3)kind of sucks for the current Nordic members. Canada would be willing to commit significant resources to this endeavour.
If this is desirable, i'll start taking IC actions.
1) No such thing.
2) It won't be.
3) No, it doesn't.

by Siaos » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:48 pm
Rygondria wrote:Nation Name: Italian Republic
Head Of State Giorgio Napolitano
Head Of State: Enrico Letta
Government Form: Unitary Parliamentary republic
Ideology: Republic
Foreign Policy: It is a supporter of united nations and is a member of the European Union.
Civil Freedoms/10:9
Political freedoms/10: 10
Economic Freedoms/10: 8
Military size: 183,000 active personnel 41,867 Reserve personnel 61,286 in the guardia di Finanza
Military Description: Italy has the tenth largest military budget in the world and is engaged in peacekeeping around the world. The service rifle is currently the Beretta ARX-160 and the service pistol is the Beretta 92FS
Description of Your Nation's Economy: Italy is the ninth largest economy in the world and the fith largest in europe. It is rich in the northerrn region but poor in the southern regions.
Description of Your Nation's Government: Italy has a parliamentary republic that is divided into two houses The Chamber of deputies and the Senate Of the Republic and is perfectly bicameral and the president is selected by the parliament and his term is one seven year mandate the prime minister is selected by the president but the parliamet has to voye to let him in by a vote of confidence
Small History of your Nation from 2013 from to April of 2014: Italy began trying recover from its economic crisis in the eurozone. The presidents term is up and the elections begin soon and parlament is divided and military build up is beginning.
Rp sample. 2050 humanity at a crossroads.
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.

by Imperium Nova » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:49 pm
Waztaskio wrote:China now has Lowlands playing them, so he should respond as China. As for Russia, if he doesn't post he will be counted abstained.

by Siaos » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:50 pm
Imperium Nova wrote:
Not to be rude, but why are you so negative all the time? Also, there is still a bond between them since they have a common thing, the Arctic. And it could indeed be an interesting alternative to the EU. Interesting does not mean good or bad. It only means that it will not be nothing. Also, I am not sure how good the European Union has been for the Nordic states. It has been more valuable for the southern Europeans if anything.
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.

by Rygondria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:50 pm
Siaos wrote:Rygondria wrote:Nation Name: Italian Republic
Head Of State Giorgio Napolitano
Head Of State: Enrico Letta
Government Form: Unitary Parliamentary republic
Ideology: Republic
Foreign Policy: It is a supporter of united nations and is a member of the European Union.
Civil Freedoms/10:9
Political freedoms/10: 10
Economic Freedoms/10: 8
Military size: 183,000 active personnel 41,867 Reserve personnel 61,286 in the guardia di Finanza
Military Description: Italy has the tenth largest military budget in the world and is engaged in peacekeeping around the world. The service rifle is currently the Beretta ARX-160 and the service pistol is the Beretta 92FS
Description of Your Nation's Economy: Italy is the ninth largest economy in the world and the fith largest in europe. It is rich in the northerrn region but poor in the southern regions.
Description of Your Nation's Government: Italy has a parliamentary republic that is divided into two houses The Chamber of deputies and the Senate Of the Republic and is perfectly bicameral and the president is selected by the parliament and his term is one seven year mandate the prime minister is selected by the president but the parliamet has to voye to let him in by a vote of confidence
Small History of your Nation from 2013 from to April of 2014: Italy began trying recover from its economic crisis in the eurozone. The presidents term is up and the elections begin soon and parlament is divided and military build up is beginning.
Rp sample. 2050 humanity at a crossroads.
I would lower either political or civil freedoms. According to the freedom house, it is only partly free, due to many of the news sources being government controlled and the corruption in the country.

by Machtergreifung » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:51 pm
Rygondria wrote:Nation Name: Italian Republic
Head Of State Giorgio Napolitano
Head Of State: Enrico Letta
Government Form: Unitary Parliamentary republic
Ideology: Republic
Foreign Policy: It is a supporter of united nations and is a member of the European Union.
Civil Freedoms/10:9
Political freedoms/10: 10
Economic Freedoms/10: 8
Military size: 183,000 active personnel 41,867 Reserve personnel 61,286 in the guardia di Finanza
Military Description: Italy has the tenth largest military budget in the world and is engaged in peacekeeping around the world. The service rifle is currently the Beretta ARX-160 and the service pistol is the Beretta 92FS
Description of Your Nation's Economy: Italy is the ninth largest economy in the world and the fith largest in europe. It is rich in the northerrn region but poor in the southern regions.
Description of Your Nation's Government: Italy has a parliamentary republic that is divided into two houses The Chamber of deputies and the Senate Of the Republic and is perfectly bicameral and the president is selected by the parliament and his term is one seven year mandate the prime minister is selected by the president but the parliamet has to voye to let him in by a vote of confidence
Small History of your Nation from 2013 from to April of 2014: Italy began trying recover from its economic crisis in the eurozone. The presidents term is up and the elections begin soon and parlament is divided and military build up is beginning.
Rp sample. 2050 humanity at a crossroads.
Imperium Nova wrote:
Not to be rude, but why are you so negative all the time? Also, there is still a bond between them since they have a common thing, the Arctic. And it could indeed be an interesting alternative to the EU. Interesting does not mean good or bad. It only means that it will not be nothing. Also, I am not sure how good the European Union has been for the Nordic states. It has been more valuable for the southern Europeans if anything.

by The New Lowlands » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:51 pm
Imperium Nova wrote:
Not to be rude, but why are you so negative all the time? Also, there is still a bond between them since they have a common thing, the Arctic. And it could indeed be an interesting alternative to the EU. Interesting does not mean good or bad. It only means that it will not be nothing. Also, I am not sure how good the European Union has been for the Nordic states. It has been more valuable for the southern Europeans if anything.

by Imperium Nova » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:52 pm
Siaos wrote:Imperium Nova wrote:Not to be rude, but why are you so negative all the time? Also, there is still a bond between them since they have a common thing, the Arctic. And it could indeed be an interesting alternative to the EU. Interesting does not mean good or bad. It only means that it will not be nothing. Also, I am not sure how good the European Union has been for the Nordic states. It has been more valuable for the southern Europeans if anything.
Can I be the obscure foreign nation which for some reason managed to gain observer status?

by Rygondria » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:53 pm
Machtergreifung wrote:Rygondria wrote:Nation Name: Italian Republic
Head Of State Giorgio Napolitano
Head Of State: Enrico Letta
Government Form: Unitary Parliamentary republic
Ideology: Republic
Foreign Policy: It is a supporter of united nations and is a member of the European Union.
Civil Freedoms/10:9
Political freedoms/10: 10
Economic Freedoms/10: 8
Military size: 183,000 active personnel 41,867 Reserve personnel 61,286 in the guardia di Finanza
Military Description: Italy has the tenth largest military budget in the world and is engaged in peacekeeping around the world. The service rifle is currently the Beretta ARX-160 and the service pistol is the Beretta 92FS
Description of Your Nation's Economy: Italy is the ninth largest economy in the world and the fith largest in europe. It is rich in the northerrn region but poor in the southern regions.
Description of Your Nation's Government: Italy has a parliamentary republic that is divided into two houses The Chamber of deputies and the Senate Of the Republic and is perfectly bicameral and the president is selected by the parliament and his term is one seven year mandate the prime minister is selected by the president but the parliamet has to voye to let him in by a vote of confidence
Small History of your Nation from 2013 from to April of 2014: Italy began trying recover from its economic crisis in the eurozone. The presidents term is up and the elections begin soon and parlament is divided and military build up is beginning.
Rp sample. 2050 humanity at a crossroads.
I have no problem with you app provided you lower the freedoms as you've been asked, but a direct link to your RP sample would be nice.Imperium Nova wrote:Not to be rude, but why are you so negative all the time? Also, there is still a bond between them since they have a common thing, the Arctic. And it could indeed be an interesting alternative to the EU. Interesting does not mean good or bad. It only means that it will not be nothing. Also, I am not sure how good the European Union has been for the Nordic states. It has been more valuable for the southern Europeans if anything.
1) There's no "Artic" culture. The Scandanvian countries share a common hertiage, yes, but the Danish, Norwegian and Swedish all share different and seperate national identities.
2) The EU has been excellent for Scandanavia. Look at their export partners - they're for the most part fellow EU members.

by Imperium Nova » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:55 pm
The New Lowlands wrote:Imperium Nova wrote:Not to be rude, but why are you so negative all the time? Also, there is still a bond between them since they have a common thing, the Arctic. And it could indeed be an interesting alternative to the EU. Interesting does not mean good or bad. It only means that it will not be nothing. Also, I am not sure how good the European Union has been for the Nordic states. It has been more valuable for the southern Europeans if anything.
That isn't rude, it's a fair remark. I'm negative because I'm tired of silliness, and you're painting your project in an awfully silly way.
The European Union is the largest single market in the world. You can't really make an alternative.
The European Union has boosted the economic bargaining power of everyone in it significantly, as well as supporting education, joint economic ventures, scientific research, and even military development. Yes, there are allegations of it being a 'better deal' for the southern states, and yes, these have some truth to them, but the EU, when not forced into an awkward position because national politicians decide to make it into a political punching-bag, benefits all it's members.

by Siaos » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:55 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.

by Imperium Nova » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:57 pm
Imperium Nova wrote:The New Lowlands wrote:That isn't rude, it's a fair remark. I'm negative because I'm tired of silliness, and you're painting your project in an awfully silly way.
The European Union is the largest single market in the world. You can't really make an alternative.
The European Union has boosted the economic bargaining power of everyone in it significantly, as well as supporting education, joint economic ventures, scientific research, and even military development. Yes, there are allegations of it being a 'better deal' for the southern states, and yes, these have some truth to them, but the EU, when not forced into an awkward position because national politicians decide to make it into a political punching-bag, benefits all it's members.
There was no talk of making an equal European Union, just an interesting preposition. Not that it would somehow take over and stuff.
Also I beg to differ, I have a hard time seeing the Nordic countries benefiting any greatly from a cooperation in the European Union, but I do not wish to dive into some political debate on this though.

by Machtergreifung » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:59 pm
Rygondria wrote:Machtergreifung wrote:
I have no problem with you app provided you lower the freedoms as you've been asked, but a direct link to your RP sample would be nice.
1) There's no "Artic" culture. The Scandanvian countries share a common hertiage, yes, but the Danish, Norwegian and Swedish all share different and seperate national identities.
2) The EU has been excellent for Scandanavia. Look at their export partners - they're for the most part fellow EU members.
i have lowerd the freedoms and do not really know how to make a link even though i tried.

by The New Lowlands » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:59 pm
Imperium Nova wrote:The New Lowlands wrote:That isn't rude, it's a fair remark. I'm negative because I'm tired of silliness, and you're painting your project in an awfully silly way.
The European Union is the largest single market in the world. You can't really make an alternative.
The European Union has boosted the economic bargaining power of everyone in it significantly, as well as supporting education, joint economic ventures, scientific research, and even military development. Yes, there are allegations of it being a 'better deal' for the southern states, and yes, these have some truth to them, but the EU, when not forced into an awkward position because national politicians decide to make it into a political punching-bag, benefits all it's members.
There was no talk of making an equal European Union, just an interesting preposition. Not that it would somehow take over and stuff.
Also I beg to differ, I have a hard time seeing the Nordic countries benefiting any greatly from a cooperation in the European Union, but I do not wish to dive into some political debate on this though.

by Graknopia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:59 pm

by Siaos » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:00 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.

by Imperium Nova » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:02 pm
The New Lowlands wrote:Imperium Nova wrote:There was no talk of making an equal European Union, just an interesting preposition. Not that it would somehow take over and stuff.
Also I beg to differ, I have a hard time seeing the Nordic countries benefiting any greatly from a cooperation in the European Union, but I do not wish to dive into some political debate on this though.
Saying the EU doesn't benefit Scandinavia isn't political, it's just plain intellectually dishonest.
EU/EEC member states account for over half of Sweden's trade balance, for example. The automatic FTA involved in this obviously benefits them.

by Pratse » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:03 pm
Siaos wrote:Zeinbrad: Because I realize the ridiculousness of India having colonies in Somalia, and because I don't feel like going through the pain of dealing with terrorists constantly attacking me, would you like to work out a deal for peace?


by Zeinbrad » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:03 pm
Siaos wrote:Zeinbrad: Because I realize the ridiculousness of India having colonies in Somalia, and because I don't feel like going through the pain of dealing with terrorists constantly attacking me, would you like to work out a deal for peace?
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