2014 - Real World RP (OOC/SIGNUPS/OLD THREAD)

[Empire of Symphonia]

It makes me sad to see all of the crap we are going to do to the environment.

Well considering that this is a War rp, then really think environment really doesn't matter. And also that the economics doesn't make sense too.

[Azaflaza]

It makes me sad to see all of the crap we are going to do to the environment.

Well considering that this is a War rp, then really think environment really doesn't matter. And also that the economics doesn't make sense too.

I didn't think it was specifically a war RP?

[Bujahla]

Update of everything going on in the RP:
Just a simple update outlining events. Doing it because I can.

Syria
15th March 2011 - Present
The fighting within Syria has continued. As the war drags on it is apparent that neither Assad nor the rebels will be able to maintain the nation. Basar al-Assad has been suspected of committing war crimes and his people are not pleased. The rebel groups on the other hand aren't capable of leading the nation either. It appears that no rebel group is strong enough to control the nation and that they have banded together only to fight Assad. As of now a few nations support Assad such as: Russia, Iran, and (surprisingly) Israel. Greek forces are attempting to help the Free Syrian Army (not known as a fact or anything). When the UK said they would support the rebels, Israel condemned them and thrown support in secular Assad. Negotiations were assumed to end when an Iranian resolution failed in the UNSC when Russia vetoed it for over stepping the power of the UN. At this point Iran sent in troops to help out Assad as part of a Syria-Iran defense pact. The situation is starting to escalate, but nations such as the UK are aware that they can't send in troops as they lack support and cause. Russia is currently arguing that all nations stay out of Syria. A conference is in the planning for Russia, Israel, Iran, and Assad to meet.

Bolivia Coup/War
27th March 2014 - Present
A coup in Bolivia started when General De La Torre of the military stormed The Palacio Quemado. General De La Torre was still upset over an incident in 2012 and decided to lead a coup. He was able to get 97% of the army and 99% of the police to join. Upon his failed search of the palace for the President, he announced on TV that the coup was underway to end the 'democratic' government. Soon after the coup began, Venezuela declared war on the Bolivian general in an attempt to restore power to the nation. In response to this, the EU freezes all assets of Venezuela under the idea that the declaration of war was illegal. In response the US moved troops to Paraguay waiting for a UN response. US forces them moved to both the Venezuelan and Bolivian borders. Bolivia then denied the US the right to enter their nation. Eventually multiple working papers were made and one resolution passed. It called for the end to the war with Venezuela and a reestablishment of the previous system in Bolivia. It is in the process of deployment as Brazilian and Canadian troops try to quell the situation.

DPRK-ROK Border Tensions
27th July 1953 - Present
(OOC: Someone type up this one)

Belarus-Lithuania Conflict
9th May 2014 - Present
The conflict started when Belarus became enraged over actions taken by Lithuania. Border tensions grew and accumulated in the attempted assassination of the Belarus President. The failed assassin was found to be of Lithuania in origins and demanded justice. They proposed a resolution to the UNSC that would allow them to invade the nation and if successful, establish military bases there. In response the US proposed amendments which removed the spoils of war from the bill and vetoed the previous version, making it void. Belarus was enraged by this and demanded that they disable all foreign military bases on the basis that the US said they couldn't have a single one. France voted no on the second bill, thus vetoing it on the basis that it would "remove a democratic government" despite the bill saying it would keep it in place.

So I made this so it could be added to the OP as a spoiler. This would provide new members with a clue to as what has happened. I expect it to expand as we go. Thought to do it cause why not.

[Bujahla]

Well considering that this is a War rp, then really think environment really doesn't matter. And also that the economics doesn't make sense too.

I didn't think it was specifically a war RP?

Agreed, we should be having major climate change talks in response to the release by the IPPC.
http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/2014.htm#ipcc

[Azaflaza]

I didn't think it was specifically a war RP?

Agreed, we should be having major climate change talks in response to the release by the IPPC.
http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/2014.htm#ipcc

Indeed, I intend for South Korea to become the world leader in fighting environmental issues.

[Waztaskio]

I'm liking that timeline, I think we got something we can use now.

[Bujahla]

Agreed, we should be having major climate change talks in response to the release by the IPPC.
http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/2014.htm#ipcc

Indeed, I intend for South Korea to become the world leader in fighting environmental issues.

Good luck with that. One of the Scandinavian countries is at like 80% clean energy.

Speaking of which, I feel like we should implement a resolution that I made a MUN conference not to long ago. It essentially puts the Arctic under UN control and then allows the UN to lease drilling rights out to nations (since Arctic ice drilling is almost possible and there are no restrictions on it) for 30% of all profits received which would be pooled into a fund to help stop either climate change or glacier melting.

[Machtergreifung]

Update of everything going on in the RP:
Just a simple update outlining events. Doing it because I can.

Syria
15th March 2011 - Present
The fighting within Syria has continued. As the war drags on it is apparent that neither Assad nor the rebels will be able to maintain the nation. Basar al-Assad has been suspected of committing war crimes and his people are not pleased. The rebel groups on the other hand aren't capable of leading the nation either. It appears that no rebel group is strong enough to control the nation and that they have banded together only to fight Assad. As of now a few nations support Assad such as: Russia, Iran, and (surprisingly) Israel. Greek forces are attempting to help the Free Syrian Army (not known as a fact or anything). When the UK said they would support the rebels, Israel condemned them and thrown support in secular Assad. Negotiations were assumed to end when an Iranian resolution failed in the UNSC when Russia vetoed it for over stepping the power of the UN. At this point Iran sent in troops to help out Assad as part of a Syria-Iran defense pact. The situation is starting to escalate, but nations such as the UK are aware that they can't send in troops as they lack support and cause. Russia is currently arguing that all nations stay out of Syria. A conference is in the planning for Russia, Israel, Iran, and Assad to meet.

Bolivia Coup/War
27th March 2014 - Present
A coup in Bolivia started when General De La Torre of the military stormed The Palacio Quemado. General De La Torre was still upset over an incident in 2012 and decided to lead a coup. He was able to get 97% of the army and 99% of the police to join. Upon his failed search of the palace for the President, he announced on TV that the coup was underway to end the 'democratic' government. Soon after the coup began, Venezuela declared war on the Bolivian general in an attempt to restore power to the nation. In response to this, the EU freezes all assets of Venezuela under the idea that the declaration of war was illegal. In response the US moved troops to Paraguay waiting for a UN response. US forces them moved to both the Venezuelan and Bolivian borders. Bolivia then denied the US the right to enter their nation. Eventually multiple working papers were made and one resolution passed. It called for the end to the war with Venezuela and a reestablishment of the previous system in Bolivia. It is in the process of deployment as Brazilian and Canadian troops try to quell the situation.

DPRK-ROK Border Tensions
27th July 1953 - Present
(OOC: Someone type up this one)

Belarus-Lithuania Conflict
9th May 2014 - Present
The conflict started when Belarus became enraged over actions taken by Lithuania. Border tensions grew and accumulated in the attempted assassination of the Belarus President. The failed assassin was found to be of Lithuania in origins and demanded justice. They proposed a resolution to the UNSC that would allow them to invade the nation and if successful, establish military bases there. In response the US proposed amendments which removed the spoils of war from the bill and vetoed the previous version, making it void. Belarus was enraged by this and demanded that they disable all foreign military bases on the basis that the US said they couldn't have a single one. France voted no on the second bill, thus vetoing it on the basis that it would "remove a democratic government" despite the bill saying it would keep it in place.

So I made this so it could be added to the OP as a spoiler. This would provide new members with a clue to as what has happened. I expect it to expand as we go. Thought to do it cause why not.

Correction, the UN resolution called for war with Bolivia to restore democracy. Venuzulea complied with UN directives.

[Bujahla]

Also, @OP/France and @UK, you should be in favor of this resolution. It allows you Belarus to legally declare war as well as install a democratic system post-disposal of the current regime. If no resolution is passed then Belarus will just declare war anyhow and possible annex the land or install a non-democratic system post-war. This way it allows for the war to be monitored and the results to be contained and desirable instead of a chaotic war that wouldn't be in anyone's interest.

[Bujahla]

Update of everything going on in the RP:
Just a simple update outlining events. Doing it because I can.

Syria
15th March 2011 - Present
The fighting within Syria has continued. As the war drags on it is apparent that neither Assad nor the rebels will be able to maintain the nation. Basar al-Assad has been suspected of committing war crimes and his people are not pleased. The rebel groups on the other hand aren't capable of leading the nation either. It appears that no rebel group is strong enough to control the nation and that they have banded together only to fight Assad. As of now a few nations support Assad such as: Russia, Iran, and (surprisingly) Israel. Greek forces are attempting to help the Free Syrian Army (not known as a fact or anything). When the UK said they would support the rebels, Israel condemned them and thrown support in secular Assad. Negotiations were assumed to end when an Iranian resolution failed in the UNSC when Russia vetoed it for over stepping the power of the UN. At this point Iran sent in troops to help out Assad as part of a Syria-Iran defense pact. The situation is starting to escalate, but nations such as the UK are aware that they can't send in troops as they lack support and cause. Russia is currently arguing that all nations stay out of Syria. A conference is in the planning for Russia, Israel, Iran, and Assad to meet.

Bolivia Coup/War
27th March 2014 - Present
A coup in Bolivia started when General De La Torre of the military stormed The Palacio Quemado. General De La Torre was still upset over an incident in 2012 and decided to lead a coup. He was able to get 97% of the army and 99% of the police to join. Upon his failed search of the palace for the President, he announced on TV that the coup was underway to end the 'democratic' government. Soon after the coup began, Venezuela declared war on the Bolivian general in an attempt to restore power to the nation. In response to this, the EU freezes all assets of Venezuela under the idea that the declaration of war was illegal. In response the US moved troops to Paraguay waiting for a UN response. US forces them moved to both the Venezuelan and Bolivian borders. Bolivia then denied the US the right to enter their nation. Eventually multiple working papers were made and one resolution passed. It called for the end to the war with Venezuela and a reestablishment of the previous system in Bolivia. It is in the process of deployment as Brazilian and Canadian troops try to quell the situation.

DPRK-ROK Border Tensions
27th July 1953 - Present
(OOC: Someone type up this one)

Belarus-Lithuania Conflict
9th May 2014 - Present
The conflict started when Belarus became enraged over actions taken by Lithuania. Border tensions grew and accumulated in the attempted assassination of the Belarus President. The failed assassin was found to be of Lithuania in origins and demanded justice. They proposed a resolution to the UNSC that would allow them to invade the nation and if successful, establish military bases there. In response the US proposed amendments which removed the spoils of war from the bill and vetoed the previous version, making it void. Belarus was enraged by this and demanded that they disable all foreign military bases on the basis that the US said they couldn't have a single one. France voted no on the second bill, thus vetoing it on the basis that it would "remove a democratic government" despite the bill saying it would keep it in place.

So I made this so it could be added to the OP as a spoiler. This would provide new members with a clue to as what has happened. I expect it to expand as we go. Thought to do it cause why not.

Correction, the UN resolution called for war with Bolivia to restore democracy. Venuzulea complied with UN directives.

Didn't the UN resolution come about after he declared war?

[Waztaskio]

Also, @OP/France and @UK, you should be in favor of this resolution. It allows you Belarus to legally declare war as well as install a democratic system post-disposal of the current regime. If no resolution is passed then Belarus will just declare war anyhow and possible annex the land or install a non-democratic system post-war. This way it allows for the war to be monitored and the results to be contained and desirable instead of a chaotic war that wouldn't be in anyone's interest.

What do you mean? Chaotic wars in small places can be fun? The way the resolution is written seems like you want UN forces to help you invade Lithuania to bring democracy. Which, is not going to be lawful as it is a legitimate government that we just deposed.

[Azaflaza]

Indeed, I intend for South Korea to become the world leader in fighting environmental issues.

Good luck with that. One of the Scandinavian countries is at like 80% clean energy.

Speaking of which, I feel like we should implement a resolution that I made a MUN conference not to long ago. It essentially puts the Arctic under UN control and then allows the UN to lease drilling rights out to nations (since Arctic ice drilling is almost possible and there are no restrictions on it) for 30% of all profits received which would be pooled into a fund to help stop either climate change or glacier melting.

Why make the world more dependent on oil? Surely the smart thing to do is to leave the article alone and invest in renewables?

[Bujahla]

Also, @OP/France and @UK, you should be in favor of this resolution. It allows you Belarus to legally declare war as well as install a democratic system post-disposal of the current regime. If no resolution is passed then Belarus will just declare war anyhow and possible annex the land or install a non-democratic system post-war. This way it allows for the war to be monitored and the results to be contained and desirable instead of a chaotic war that wouldn't be in anyone's interest.

What do you mean? Chaotic wars in small places can be fun? The way the resolution is written seems like you want UN forces to help you invade Lithuania to bring democracy. Which, is not going to be lawful as it is a legitimate government that we just deposed.

They way it's written is that it gives Belarus permission to go to war, and post-war the UN helps with the reconstruction of Lithuania. Other wise that doesn't happen.

Good luck with that. One of the Scandinavian countries is at like 80% clean energy.

Speaking of which, I feel like we should implement a resolution that I made a MUN conference not to long ago. It essentially puts the Arctic under UN control and then allows the UN to lease drilling rights out to nations (since Arctic ice drilling is almost possible and there are no restrictions on it) for 30% of all profits received which would be pooled into a fund to help stop either climate change or glacier melting.

Why make the world more dependent on oil? Surely the smart thing to do is to leave the article alone and invest in renewables?

Well the other option is to put the Arctic under the UN and not allow anyone to drill there. The idea behind this (which granted, I opposed it till the very end) is that it will help to end the ME oil monopoly. What it accomplishes however is that it creates a giant fund of money to set aside for just climate change. No other method can obtain as much money which can be put toward this.

[Azaflaza]

What do you mean? Chaotic wars in small places can be fun? The way the resolution is written seems like you want UN forces to help you invade Lithuania to bring democracy. Which, is not going to be lawful as it is a legitimate government that we just deposed.

They way it's written is that it gives Belarus permission to go to war, and post-war the UN helps with the reconstruction of Lithuania. Other wise that doesn't happen.

Why make the world more dependent on oil? Surely the smart thing to do is to leave the article alone and invest in renewables?

Well the other option is to put the Arctic under the UN and not allow anyone to drill there. The idea behind this (which granted, I opposed it till the very end) is that it will help to end the ME oil monopoly. What it accomplishes however is that it creates a giant fund of money to set aside for just climate change. No other method can obtain as much money which can be put toward this.

Well, how about increasing it to 40% and a guarantee that South Korea will get its portion of Russian oil?

[Empire of Symphonia]

Also, @OP/France and @UK, you should be in favor of this resolution. It allows you Belarus to legally declare war as well as install a democratic system post-disposal of the current regime. If no resolution is passed then Belarus will just declare war anyhow and possible annex the land or install a non-democratic system post-war. This way it allows for the war to be monitored and the results to be contained and desirable instead of a chaotic war that wouldn't be in anyone's interest.

The problem is that Belarus will not accept the more moderate American amendments to his proposal. Under the original proposal, nothing is stated for the reconstruction of democratic government and leaves on the route for Belarus to establish military bases in Lithuania as spoils of war. In short, under the original resolution, the UN would be backing an aggressive war instead of its historical trend of advocating defensive war.

A policy change like that would destroy any support the UN has in either of our countries.

[Limborg]

Two things:

1. Iran now has a Mutual defense treaty with Sudan.
2. Iran kicked out the ambassador of Bahrain.

[Empire of Symphonia]

Two things:

1. Iran now has a Mutual defense treaty with Sudan.
2. Iran kicked out the ambassador of Bahrain.

You do realize that the latter will definitely prompt a response from me right? Bahrain is considered within the British sphere of inluence and that America and I have military base there.

[Bujahla]

Also, @OP/France and @UK, you should be in favor of this resolution. It allows you Belarus to legally declare war as well as install a democratic system post-disposal of the current regime. If no resolution is passed then Belarus will just declare war anyhow and possible annex the land or install a non-democratic system post-war. This way it allows for the war to be monitored and the results to be contained and desirable instead of a chaotic war that wouldn't be in anyone's interest.

The problem is that Belarus will not accept the more moderate American amendments to his proposal. Under the original proposal, nothing is stated for the reconstruction of democratic government and leaves on the route for Belarus to establish military bases in Lithuania as spoils of war. In short, under the original resolution, the UN would be backing an aggressive war instead of its historical trend of advocating defensive war.

A policy change like that would destroy any support the UN has in either of our countries.

Well then we veto the second one and wa-bahm. No progress.

[Limborg]

Two things:

1. Iran now has a Mutual defense treaty with Sudan.
2. Iran kicked out the ambassador of Bahrain.

You do realize that the latter will definitely prompt a response from me right? Bahrain is considered within the British sphere of inluence and that America and I have military base there.

So? are you gonna justify the deaths, arrests and tortures commited by your "ally" ? I doubt your own people would agree with you.

[Empire of Symphonia]

You do realize that the latter will definitely prompt a response from me right? Bahrain is considered within the British sphere of inluence and that America and I have military base there.

So? are you gonna justify the deaths, arrests and tortures commited by your "ally" ? I doubt your own people would agree with you.

Hahahaha. Just like how we call the SNC "rebels and terrorist", the same applies to the protestors. And with your declaration for support, we definitely know that Iran has a hand in this revolution.

[Empire of Symphonia]

The problem is that Belarus will not accept the more moderate American amendments to his proposal. Under the original proposal, nothing is stated for the reconstruction of democratic government and leaves on the route for Belarus to establish military bases in Lithuania as spoils of war. In short, under the original resolution, the UN would be backing an aggressive war instead of its historical trend of advocating defensive war.

A policy change like that would destroy any support the UN has in either of our countries.

Well then we veto the second one and wa-bahm. No progress.

Someone just write another, more concise and moderate proposal, and then the UK will consider it.

[Limborg]

So? are you gonna justify the deaths, arrests and tortures commited by your "ally" ? I doubt your own people would agree with you.

Hahahaha. Just like how we call the SNC "rebels and terrorist", the same applies to the protestors. And with your declaration for support, we definitely know that Iran has a hand in this revolution.

Hahah are you trying to do the same as Iran does but then with the UK? Becouse that isn't working in any way

[Machtergreifung]

Correction, the UN resolution called for war with Bolivia to restore democracy. Venuzulea complied with UN directives.

Didn't the UN resolution come about after he declared war?

Coup in Bolivia
Venuzulea declared war
UN resolution to return democracy to Bolivia and force Venuzulea to cease offensive operations passes.
Venuzulean player switches to Belarus.
Brazil and Canada invade Bolivia as per UN directive.

[Empire of Symphonia]

Hahahaha. Just like how we call the SNC "rebels and terrorist", the same applies to the protestors. And with your declaration for support, we definitely know that Iran has a hand in this revolution.

Hahah are you trying to do the same as Iran does but then with the UK? Becouse that isn't working in any way

We'll see, we'll see. Once the rockets from the terrorists fly and tanks start rolling of course.

[Imperium Nova]

For the timeline, I think this will be ok http://futuretimeline.net/ for technology. As for the players not active, I have no seen the Scandinavian people lately. Poland either, am I missing anyone?

Awh... I am disappointed in myself now.