2014 - Real World RP (OOC/SIGNUPS/OLD THREAD)

[Machtergreifung]

I'll be frank, Macht, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable. Sure, it wouldn't happen in real life, but that's probably because the circumstances given at the moment in this RP wouldn't arise.

North Korea's nuclear weapons aren't that big, anyhow, especially not for a place like South America.

Last I checked, this was a Real World RP. Not a fantasy RP.

What circumstances have arisen that have caused customs officals to suddenly become careless?

[Hobbesistan]

I'll be frank, Macht, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable. Sure, it wouldn't happen in real life, but that's probably because the circumstances given at the moment in this RP wouldn't arise.

North Korea's nuclear weapons aren't that big, anyhow, especially not for a place like South America.

My point exactly, it's far from impossible, which means it has no grounds to be deemed godmod.

Stupid ICly? maybe, Fail at a port? Possibly - I am hoping we get a argentina to objectively RP the port people? Staight up godmod? No.


Mach, all of your arguements have been defeated besides saying a port official is going to see it - OK, we'll deal with that when we get there, You still aren't showing why its straight up godmod.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Oh, you are Co-OP? Cool, then you should pursuit it, because I think that is so unrealistic and not achievable. We can't do anything because we have no power

Unrealistic and not achievable? So your saying in no way can this not be possible. May I inquire which part you are talking about specifically, or is it the whole thing?

Well, to start with, this actually happened in real life when North Korea sent a ship with armament to Cuba, and it was intercepted and the material, although well-hidden- was discovered.

[Machtergreifung]

Oh, you are Co-OP? Cool, then you should pursuit it, because I think that is so unrealistic and not achievable. We can't do anything because we have no power

Unrealistic and not achievable? So your saying in no way can this not be possible. May I inquire which part you are talking about specifically, or is it the whole thing?

Possible? About as possible as faster-than-light travel.

Achievable? No way.

Unrealistic? Spot on.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I'll be frank, Macht, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable. Sure, it wouldn't happen in real life, but that's probably because the circumstances given at the moment in this RP wouldn't arise.

North Korea's nuclear weapons aren't that big, anyhow, especially not for a place like South America.

My point exactly, it's far from impossible, which means it has no grounds to be deemed godmod.

Stupid ICly? maybe, Fail at a port? Possibly - I am hoping we get a argentina to objectively RP the port people? Staight up godmod? No.


Mach, all of your arguements have been defeated besides saying a port official is going to see it - OK, we'll deal with that when we get there, You still aren't showing why its straight up godmod.

Alternative-History within the bounds of realism
Even the OP can't argue against the nature of the RP.

[The New Lowlands]

I'll be frank, Macht, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable. Sure, it wouldn't happen in real life, but that's probably because the circumstances given at the moment in this RP wouldn't arise.

North Korea's nuclear weapons aren't that big, anyhow, especially not for a place like South America.

Last I checked, this was a Real World RP. Not a fantasy RP.

What circumstances have arisen that have caused customs officals to suddenly become careless?

It's not to do with customs officials- who, in Argentina, can be bribed- but rather with the conditions in Bolivia.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Unrealistic and not achievable? So your saying in no way can this not be possible. May I inquire which part you are talking about specifically, or is it the whole thing?

Possible? About as possible as faster-than-light travel.

Achievable? No way.

Unrealistic? Spot on.

viewtopic.php?p=17760356#p17760356

[Waztaskio]

Unrealistic and not achievable? So your saying in no way can this not be possible. May I inquire which part you are talking about specifically, or is it the whole thing?

Well, to start with, this actually happened in real life when North Korea sent a ship with armament to Cuba, and it was intercepted and the material, although well-hidden- was discovered.

This is a Chinese Marked shipped. And even if this is discovered, which it could be China will be pissed at whoever stopped their ship. And China will take action most likely as you stopped one of their ships.

[Hobbesistan]

My point exactly, it's far from impossible, which means it has no grounds to be deemed godmod.

Stupid ICly? maybe, Fail at a port? Possibly - I am hoping we get a argentina to objectively RP the port people? Staight up godmod? No.


Mach, all of your arguements have been defeated besides saying a port official is going to see it - OK, we'll deal with that when we get there, You still aren't showing why its straight up godmod.

Alternative-History within the bounds of realism
Even the OP can't argue against the nature of the RP.

Yes, its entirely within the bounds of realism, but like I said, thats subjective - one sets what 'realism' is at his own bounds.

It may be a stupid plan ICly, but like I have said a half dozen times, no one is saying it straight up impossible.

[Forty Twoania]

Spain has many Multinational corporations that make money off south america. This has been going on since the 80s when Latin American markets began to free up
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/economy/conquest.htm
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-07-26/news/9907260238_1_latin-america-spain-and-latin-reconquest

no response?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Spain has many Multinational corporations that make money off south america. This has been going on since the 80s when Latin American markets began to free up
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/economy/conquest.htm
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-07-26/news/9907260238_1_latin-america-spain-and-latin-reconquest

But not to the point of having a monopoly in South America. South American nations aren't banana republics

[The New Lowlands]

Spain has many Multinational corporations that make money off south america. This has been going on since the 80s when Latin American markets began to free up
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/economy/conquest.htm
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-07-26/news/9907260238_1_latin-america-spain-and-latin-reconquest

no response?

That's not the same as a monopoly.

[Machtergreifung]

Can I also make the point that a convoy of UN trucks crossing from North Korea to China would almost certainly have been noticed by US spy satalites, seeing as there's not a great deal of traffic between the two countries (except, of course, the refugees fleein North Korea), and trucks (UN ones, no less) would have been tracked.

[Hobbesistan]

Can I also make the point that a convoy of UN trucks crossing from North Korea to China would almost certainly have been noticed by US spy satalites, seeing as there's not a great deal of traffic between the two countries (except, of course, the refugees fleein North Korea), and trucks (UN ones, no less) would have been tracked.

I didin't know U.S spy satellites could track a convoy of trucks moving at 60mph when the sattelite is moving at 17,500 miles per hour in orbit.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Alternative-History within the bounds of realism
Even the OP can't argue against the nature of the RP.

Yes, its entirely within the bounds of realism, but like I said, thats subjective - one sets what 'realism' is at his own bounds.

It may be a stupid plan ICly, but like I have said a half dozen times, no one is saying it straight up impossible.

You don't get the point. This was tried already. North Korea recently sent a ship containing armament to Cuba. It was intercepted (even when it did not display any military signs) and the material, although well-hidden, was found and confiscated.

[The New Lowlands]

Can I also make the point that a convoy of UN trucks crossing from North Korea to China would almost certainly have been noticed by US spy satalites, seeing as there's not a great deal of traffic between the two countries (except, of course, the refugees fleein North Korea), and trucks (UN ones, no less) would have been tracked.

This is assuming, of course, that satellites are watching that area at that time.
In addition, China and North Korea have relatively regular transport across the border, for a hermit kingdom's border.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Can I also make the point that a convoy of UN trucks crossing from North Korea to China would almost certainly have been noticed by US spy satalites, seeing as there's not a great deal of traffic between the two countries (except, of course, the refugees fleein North Korea), and trucks (UN ones, no less) would have been tracked.

I didin't know U.S spy satellites could track a convoy of trucks moving at 60mph when the sattelite is moving at 17,500 miles per hour in orbit.

Then you have to get a lot more informed, because they can.

[Hobbesistan]

Yes, its entirely within the bounds of realism, but like I said, thats subjective - one sets what 'realism' is at his own bounds.

It may be a stupid plan ICly, but like I have said a half dozen times, no one is saying it straight up impossible.

You don't get the point. This was tried already. North Korea recently sent a ship containing armament to Cuba. It was intercepted (even when it did not display any military signs) and the material, although well-hidden, was found and confiscated.

Which if anything reinforces the possibility of our case,no?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Can I also make the point that a convoy of UN trucks crossing from North Korea to China would almost certainly have been noticed by US spy satalites, seeing as there's not a great deal of traffic between the two countries (except, of course, the refugees fleein North Korea), and trucks (UN ones, no less) would have been tracked.

This is assuming, of course, that satellites are watching that area at that time.
In addition, China and North Korea have relatively regular transport across the border, for a hermit kingdom's border.

Well, considering that the United States is already doing it...

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

You don't get the point. This was tried already. North Korea recently sent a ship containing armament to Cuba. It was intercepted (even when it did not display any military signs) and the material, although well-hidden, was found and confiscated.

Which if anything reinforces the possibility of our case,no?

Of the transport? Yes. Of the success of it? No. It will never be successful.

[Hobbesistan]

I didin't know U.S spy satellites could track a convoy of trucks moving at 60mph when the sattelite is moving at 17,500 miles per hour in orbit.

Then you have to get a lot more informed, because they can.

Wanna provide sources to that?

Even in geosynchronous orbit, the idea of a satellite remaining constantly pointed at one spot - ONE small border crossing, constantly filming, then be able to point out a convoy of trucks, FURTHERMORE identify they are marked U.N, then LEAVE that geosynchronous orbit at a whim to spy on them entering China is absurd.

[Waztaskio]

So let me get this straight, the USA is going to watch a UN convoy all because is in transit from two countries? Even though-..it is FAR stretched about the satellite itself from earlier comments.

[Hobbesistan]

Which if anything reinforces the possibility of our case,no?

Of the transport? Yes. Of the success of it? No. It will never be successful.

I didin't know the U.S navy had a blockade of ships right by Argentina just like Cuba, right?

I also didin't know foreign imports to Argentina where banned and subject to full search just like Cuba.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

no response?

That's not the same as a monopoly.

Exactly! They have companies, but not monopolies in South America.
South American nations are not banana republics.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Of the transport? Yes. Of the success of it? No. It will never be successful.

I didin't know the U.S navy had a blockade of ships right by Argentina just like Cuba, right?

It didn't even reach Cuba. It was stopped before arriving to the Panama Canal, in the Pacific Ocean.