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Themiclesia
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Postby Themiclesia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:49 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:I see no objection against this. Confucius himself said that there is no private property in the ideal world, because there would be so much of everything to the effect that, for the most part, there is no need to keep things private. There should be no borders, no government, and no conflicts. I think this agrees with the ideal of the Internationale.


That's not necessarily what Marx was talking about.

What the concept of dialectal idealism means is that a person will always apply their own past experiences when trying to determine the meaning or cause of events or facts. Because everyone's life experiences are different, this can lead to radically different interpretations. Eventually these interpretations are shared by people, and a political ideology is formed.

The root concept here being that ideals are invariably tied to historical events.

I see again no logical faults. Confucius's argument was to pursue the best for everybody; he realizes that individuals have divergent wishes and realizing all of them will sometimes be contradictory, such as realizing Verdum's expressed wish for the destruction of 99% of mankind.
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Postby Verdum » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:52 pm

Themiclesia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
That's not necessarily what Marx was talking about.

What the concept of dialectal idealism means is that a person will always apply their own past experiences when trying to determine the meaning or cause of events or facts. Because everyone's life experiences are different, this can lead to radically different interpretations. Eventually these interpretations are shared by people, and a political ideology is formed.

The root concept here being that ideals are invariably tied to historical events.

I see again no logical faults. Confucius's argument was to pursue the best for everybody; he realizes that individuals have divergent wishes and realizing all of them will sometimes be contradictory, such as realizing Verdum's expressed wish for the destruction of 99% of mankind.

Actually only the Middle East and Jewish, the rest are on the waiting list.
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Postby Themiclesia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:53 pm

Verdum wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:I see again no logical faults. Confucius's argument was to pursue the best for everybody; he realizes that individuals have divergent wishes and realizing all of them will sometimes be contradictory, such as realizing Verdum's expressed wish for the destruction of 99% of mankind.

Actually only the Middle East and Jewish, the rest are on the waiting list.

So, at the end of the day, you still wish for their destruction. Suppose that your wish is realized, do you feel this is a logical conclusion?
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Postby Verdum » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:54 pm

Themiclesia wrote:
Verdum wrote:Actually only the Middle East and Jewish, the rest are on the waiting list.

So, at the end of the day, you still wish for their destruction. Suppose that your wish is realized, do you feel this is a logical conclusion?

I said the rest are on the waiting list, damn it.

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Postby Themiclesia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:55 pm

Verdum wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:So, at the end of the day, you still wish for their destruction. Suppose that your wish is realized, do you feel this is a logical conclusion?

I said the rest are on the waiting list, damn it.

And yet you have created a waiting list, so do you deny that ultimately you wish for their destruction?

Upon the premise of the bolded text, I ask, do you feel this is a logical conclusion?
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:56 pm

How about you two take it to the TG's?

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Postby Verdum » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:58 pm

Themiclesia wrote:
Verdum wrote:I said the rest are on the waiting list, damn it.

And yet you have created a waiting list, so do you deny that ultimately you wish for their destruction?

Upon the premise of the bolded text, I ask, do you feel this is a logical conclusion?

No, the list is what ide of the paper they go on.
Life, death? Life, death?
So many decisions, so little time!

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Postby Themiclesia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:21 pm

Verdum wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:And yet you have created a waiting list, so do you deny that ultimately you wish for their destruction?

Upon the premise of the bolded text, I ask, do you feel this is a logical conclusion?

No, the list is what ide of the paper they go on.
Life, death? Life, death?
So many decisions, so little time!

... wishing destruction upon so many peoples, without knowing about them... very, very thoroughly considered.

Courts of law take so much time and effort, paying attention to every detail, employ so many people to examine different aspects of the facts alleged, and judges whose differing opinions are designed to make final judgment include the fullest possible consideration of all things; and this is only for one man. You, however, in power, will to destroy almost all people on earth.
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News | Court of Appeal overturns Sgt. Ker conviction for larceny in quartermaster's pantry | TNS Hat runs aground in foreign harbour, hull unhurt | House of Lords passes Stamp Collection Act, counterfeiting used stamps now a crime | New bicycle lanes under the elevated railways | Demonstration against rights abuses in Menghe in Crystal Park, MoD: parade to be postponed for civic activity

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Postby Eaglleia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:04 pm

Whats new? :p

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Postby Lancearc » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:32 pm

Eaglleia wrote:Whats new? :p

Getting ready to party in NO after a Sooner victory in the Sugar Bowl. :p

(It took a ridiculous amount of time to get this post up, more than you might imagine with all the damn phones around .v.)
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Postby Eaglleia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:51 pm

Lancearc wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:Whats new? :p

Getting ready to party in NO after a Sooner victory in the Sugar Bowl. :p

(It took a ridiculous amount of time to get this post up, more than you might imagine with all the damn phones around .v.)

-NO
-Sooner
-Sugar Bowl
/Didn'tgetanyofit
/feelingstupid.
:U

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Postby Lancearc » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:55 pm

Eaglleia wrote:
Lancearc wrote:Getting ready to party in NO after a Sooner victory in the Sugar Bowl. :p

(It took a ridiculous amount of time to get this post up, more than you might imagine with all the damn phones around .v.)

-NO
-Sooner
-Sugar Bowl
/Didn'tgetanyofit
/feelingstupid.
:U

Stuff
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Postby Eaglleia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:56 pm

Lancearc wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:-NO
-Sooner
-Sugar Bowl
/Didn'tgetanyofit
/feelingstupid.
:U

Stuff

Ah, kay.

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Postby Pacifica Federation » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:08 am

I was playing Civ 5, the Celts declared war on the English, Arabian, and Japanese...what does that sound like?

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Postby Eaglleia » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:18 am

Pacifica Federation wrote:I was playing Civ 5, the Celts declared war on the English, Arabian, and Japanese...what does that sound like?

Grey Wolf XD

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Postby Pacifica Federation » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:20 am

Eaglleia wrote:
Pacifica Federation wrote:I was playing Civ 5, the Celts declared war on the English, Arabian, and Japanese...what does that sound like?

Grey Wolf XD

lost almost all their land too XD

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Postby Pacifica Federation » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:12 am

Pacifica Federation wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:Grey Wolf XD

lost almost all their land too XD

I think the biggest irony is they're remaining land consists of Spain and France...
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:08 am

Pacifica Federation wrote:
Pacifica Federation wrote:lost almost all their land too XD

I think the biggest irony is they're remaining land consists of Spain and France...

glomp
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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:10 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Pacifica Federation wrote:I think the biggest irony is they're remaining land consists of Spain and France...

glomp

oale-sama!

i need link to my tank again!
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Postby Pacifica Federation » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:11 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Pacifica Federation wrote:I think the biggest irony is they're remaining land consists of Spain and France...

glomp

*rena glomps*

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Postby Eaglleia » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:15 am

Pacifica Federation wrote:
Pacifica Federation wrote:lost almost all their land too XD

I think the biggest irony is they're remaining land consists of Spain and France...

Omg Grey Wolf! :blink:

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:24 am

Pacifica Federation wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:glomp

*rena glomps*

*Hanyuu carefully glomps Rena*
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:25 am

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:glomp

oale-sama!
i need link to my tank again!

Damn it Tsu Tsu-chan! :P
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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*POLITICALLY CONTENTIOUS STATEMENTS INTENSIFY*

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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:29 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:oale-sama!
i need link to my tank again!

Damn it Tsu Tsu-chan! :P

sorry oale-sama
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I don't use NS stats.

I'd prefer the pronouns she/her,if your referring to me

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:37 am

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Damn it Tsu Tsu-chan! :P

sorry oale-sama

Ez okay
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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