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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:41 pm

Jamessonia wrote:Anything regarding me happen?

You're being ousted from the government.

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:42 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Tiberium Imperium wrote:Has the Senate been informed of the potential coup?

Umh, actually no... We only know about it OOC. However I think a new law or something has been passed with OOC knowledge or something.

Kinda.
That last clause of L113 being added last minute is something I doubt could've been explained ICly


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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:43 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Winovia wrote:Well tje government was elected before all active senators joined which is unfair anyways, we could impeach the PM and government altogether and let the majority party form their government.

Correct.
But we now also have more senators meaning some laws might have (not) passed.


We obviously have to restart everything *nods*

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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:44 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Tiberium Imperium wrote:Has the Senate been informed of the potential coup?

Umh, actually no... We only know about it OOC. However I think a new law or something has been passed with OOC knowledge or something.


Considering how eagerly we passed L113, I feel there must have been something of it. Maybe it was Intonarl who heard something while charging away from the money he left for Demos?

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Jamessonia wrote:Anything regarding me happen?

You're being ousted from the government.


If we don't retcon the events, Fergus will have a ridiculous amount of explaining to do.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:45 pm

Winovia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Correct.
But we now also have more senators meaning some laws might have (not) passed.


We obviously have to restart everything *nods*

I agree

I was joking......
The New World Oceania wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Umh, actually no... We only know about it OOC. However I think a new law or something has been passed with OOC knowledge or something.


Considering how eagerly we passed L113, I feel there must have been something of it. Maybe it was Intonarl who heard something while charging away from the money he left for Demos?

Imperium Nova wrote:You're being ousted from the government.


If we don't retcon the events, Fergus will have a ridiculous amount of explaining to do.

Fergus?
Think about the rest of the Monarchist party......

Also, you probably could've rped that.
And it should be determined by time an location of that alley meeting.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:46 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Umh, actually no... We only know about it OOC. However I think a new law or something has been passed with OOC knowledge or something.


Considering how eagerly we passed L113, I feel there must have been something of it. Maybe it was Intonarl who heard something while charging away from the money he left for Demos?

Imperium Nova wrote:You're being ousted from the government.


If we don't retcon the events, Fergus will have a ridiculous amount of explaining to do.

Probably.

"Mr. Prime MInister, why is the Minister of Defense in his castle with the whole military?"
"Err... Er... Yes..."

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:48 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:
Considering how eagerly we passed L113, I feel there must have been something of it. Maybe it was Intonarl who heard something while charging away from the money he left for Demos?



If we don't retcon the events, Fergus will have a ridiculous amount of explaining to do.

Probably.

"Mr. Prime MInister, why is the Minister of Defense in his castle with the whole military?"
"Err... Er... Yes..."

Hey,Hey, it's only the Imperial guard with the local tanks and equipment.
No real soldier entered that castle a since the soldiers stopped swearing an oath to the monarchy......
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:49 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:Anything regarding me happen?

You're being ousted from the government.

Why am I not surprised. This RP is going to shit.

Also, I thought Sunday was supposed to be a break day?
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:49 pm

Also, I'd suggest a re-start, or something. Now we are a bit more comfortable in these situations, and we might know how to make laws and stuffs. And we could have a better system and everything!

And various coups too. Don't forget the coups.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:50 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:You're being ousted from the government.

Why am I not surprised. This RP is going to shit.

Also, I thought Sunday was supposed to be a break day?

Hey, hey. It's quite fun. Just see how it all plays out. We seem to be leaning on some big, huge retconn here. Either totally or just partially.

Also, yes, Sunday is a break day between June and July. So essentially this all just took place on the 31st of June.

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:52 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:Also, I'd suggest a re-start, or something. Now we are a bit more comfortable in these situations, and we might know how to make laws and stuffs. And we could have a better system and everything!

And various coups too. Don't forget the coups.

I demand we legalize coups.

Actually, here:
Impeach Democracy, Legalize Coups, Votes Are Theft: Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn 2014
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Postby Tiberium Imperium » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:52 pm

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Republic of Corburn,
Senate, Surrey, Corburn City, Corburn, Republic of Corburn



Date: 1/5/2014

M103


Motion to Bring Charges of High Treason and Other Charges

Preamble


Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn has launched a coup against the legitimately elected First Senate of the Republic of Corburn, these treasonous acts must be condemned by the government;

Body


1. In light of recent events specifically the launch a coup by Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn, Minister of Defense and claimant to the the throne of Kohr-Corburn;
1.2.Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall be charged with the following crimes as defined under L109 Criminal Code of the Republic of Corburn: treason defined as "Treason is the act of conspiring against the state (these plans may be espionage, revolution, coup, sabotage, assasination), it is a Delict;" and high treason defined as "High Treason is the act of executing conspired plans against the state, it is a Delict;", Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall upon arrest and sentencing be charged with the following 100,000 CBD and at the discretion of the Presiding judge capitol punishment or life in prison;


Enactment Clause

Upon approval by this bill will come into effect immediately effecting stability strongly;

Signed,

Titolli de Tiberi, Corburnian National Party
Senator of Greater Sussex, City of Sussex, Region of Kingsport, Republic of Corburn


I am going to submit this once the Senate is informed of the coup.
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:53 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:Why am I not surprised. This RP is going to shit.

Also, I thought Sunday was supposed to be a break day?

Hey, hey. It's quite fun. Just see how it all plays out. We seem to be leaning on some big, huge retconn here. Either totally or just partially.

Also, yes, Sunday is a break day between June and July. So essentially this all just took place on the 31st of June.

It's very fun when I go out for a few hours and come back to everything in chaos. Yes, it is.

This isn't supposed to be a revolutionary RP, but a political one.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:54 pm

Tiberium Imperium wrote:
(Image)

To:
Republic of Corburn,
Senate, Surrey, Corburn City, Corburn, Republic of Corburn



Date: 1/5/2014

M103


Motion to Bring Charges of High Treason and Other Charges

Preamble


Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn has launched a coup against the legitimately elected First Senate of the Republic of Corburn, these treasonous acts must be condemned by the government;

Body


1. In light of recent events specifically the launch a coup by Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn, Minister of Defense and claimant to the the throne of Kohr-Corburn;
1.2.Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall be charged with the following crimes as defined under L109 Criminal Code of the Republic of Corburn: treason defined as "Treason is the act of conspiring against the state (these plans may be espionage, revolution, coup, sabotage, assasination), it is a Delict;" and high treason defined as "High Treason is the act of executing conspired plans against the state, it is a Delict;", Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall upon arrest and sentencing be charged with the following 100,000 CBD and at the discretion of the Presiding judge capitol punishment or life in prison;


Enactment Clause

Upon approval by this bill will come into effect immediately effecting stability strongly;

Signed,

Titolli de Tiberi, Corburnian National Party
Senator of Greater Sussex, City of Sussex, Region of Kingsport, Republic of Corburn


I am going to submit this once the Senate is informed of the coup.

Technically speaking, you still have to catch him - which may not be that easy -bunkered in a castle wit tanks and military-grade equipment, used by fiercely loyal military-grade disciplined Monarchists.
Jamessonia wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Hey, hey. It's quite fun. Just see how it all plays out. We seem to be leaning on some big, huge retconn here. Either totally or just partially.

Also, yes, Sunday is a break day between June and July. So essentially this all just took place on the 31st of June.

It's very fun when I go out for a few hours and come back to everything in chaos. Yes, it is.

This isn't supposed to be a revolutionary RP, but a political one.

They pushed me against the wall.
I wanted to wait longer.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:54 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Hey, hey. It's quite fun. Just see how it all plays out. We seem to be leaning on some big, huge retconn here. Either totally or just partially.

Also, yes, Sunday is a break day between June and July. So essentially this all just took place on the 31st of June.

It's very fun when I go out for a few hours and come back to everything in chaos. Yes, it is.

This isn't supposed to be a revolutionary RP, but a political one.

I felt the same way, I was gone for an hour, and then poof! Coup time.


Tiberium Imperium wrote:
(Image)

To:
Republic of Corburn,
Senate, Surrey, Corburn City, Corburn, Republic of Corburn



Date: 1/5/2014

M103


Motion to Bring Charges of High Treason and Other Charges

Preamble


Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn has launched a coup against the legitimately elected First Senate of the Republic of Corburn, these treasonous acts must be condemned by the government;

Body


1. In light of recent events specifically the launch a coup by Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn, Minister of Defense and claimant to the the throne of Kohr-Corburn;
1.2.Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall be charged with the following crimes as defined under L109 Criminal Code of the Republic of Corburn: treason defined as "Treason is the act of conspiring against the state (these plans may be espionage, revolution, coup, sabotage, assasination), it is a Delict;" and high treason defined as "High Treason is the act of executing conspired plans against the state, it is a Delict;", Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall upon arrest and sentencing be charged with the following 100,000 CBD and at the discretion of the Presiding judge capitol punishment or life in prison;


Enactment Clause

Upon approval by this bill will come into effect immediately effecting stability strongly;

Signed,

Titolli de Tiberi, Corburnian National Party
Senator of Greater Sussex, City of Sussex, Region of Kingsport, Republic of Corburn


I am going to submit this once the Senate is informed of the coup.


He hasn't really commited a coup yet, not ICly at least.

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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:54 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Winovia wrote:I agree

I was joking......

oh...
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:55 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Tiberium Imperium wrote:
(Image)

To:
Republic of Corburn,
Senate, Surrey, Corburn City, Corburn, Republic of Corburn



Date: 1/5/2014

M103


Motion to Bring Charges of High Treason and Other Charges

Preamble


Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn has launched a coup against the legitimately elected First Senate of the Republic of Corburn, these treasonous acts must be condemned by the government;

Body


1. In light of recent events specifically the launch a coup by Senator Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn, Minister of Defense and claimant to the the throne of Kohr-Corburn;
1.2.Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall be charged with the following crimes as defined under L109 Criminal Code of the Republic of Corburn: treason defined as "Treason is the act of conspiring against the state (these plans may be espionage, revolution, coup, sabotage, assasination), it is a Delict;" and high treason defined as "High Treason is the act of executing conspired plans against the state, it is a Delict;", Jonathan of Kohr-Corburn shall upon arrest and sentencing be charged with the following 100,000 CBD and at the discretion of the Presiding judge capitol punishment or life in prison;


Enactment Clause

Upon approval by this bill will come into effect immediately effecting stability strongly;

Signed,

Titolli de Tiberi, Corburnian National Party
Senator of Greater Sussex, City of Sussex, Region of Kingsport, Republic of Corburn


I am going to submit this once the Senate is informed of the coup.

Technically speaking, you still have to catch him - which may not be that easy -bunkered in a castle wit tanks and military-grade equipment, used by fiercely loyal military-grade disciplined Monarchists.
Jamessonia wrote:It's very fun when I go out for a few hours and come back to everything in chaos. Yes, it is.

This isn't supposed to be a revolutionary RP, but a political one.

They pushed me against the wall.
I wanted to wait longer.

I'm going to put it out there that I refuse to participate in this if this stupid revolution stuff is a trend. It's not what I signed up for.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:55 pm

Winovia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:I was joking......

oh...

Yeah......
Jamessonia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Technically speaking, you still have to catch him - which may not be that easy -bunkered in a castle wit tanks and military-grade equipment, used by fiercely loyal military-grade disciplined Monarchists.

They pushed me against the wall.
I wanted to wait longer.

I'm going to put it out there that I refuse to participate in this if this stupid revolution stuff is a trend. It's not what I signed up for.

And you did not expect for it to come someday, from this party?
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:56 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Winovia wrote:oh...

Yeah......
Jamessonia wrote:I'm going to put it out there that I refuse to participate in this if this stupid revolution stuff is a trend. It's not what I signed up for.

And you did not expect for it to come someday, from this party?

No, I expected some semblance of respect to the rules, funnily enough.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:57 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Yeah......

And you did not expect for it to come someday, from this party?

No, I expected some semblance of respect to the rules, funnily enough.

Which rules, if I may ask?
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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:57 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Yeah......

And you did not expect for it to come someday, from this party?

No, I expected some semblance of respect to the rules, funnily enough.

What rules are you referring to?
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:58 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:No, I expected some semblance of respect to the rules, funnily enough.

Which rules, if I may ask?

I mean that I find it extremely irresponsible and rude to completely forsake the purpose of the game.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:59 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Which rules, if I may ask?

I mean that I find it extremely irresponsible and rude to completely forsake the purpose of the game.

The game is to build a nation. It did not say that you could not use violence. I mean, we have mobsters!

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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:00 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Which rules, if I may ask?

I mean that I find it extremely irresponsible and rude to completely forsake the purpose of the game.

Yeah because coups don't happen in real politics, and Prime Ministers are never ousted
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:00 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Which rules, if I may ask?

I mean that I find it extremely irresponsible and rude to completely forsake the purpose of the game.

Which is to simulate politics in a republic.
Weimer germany was a republic.
Then it turned to not be one.

Ark knew of it from always - he even had a coup-module or something of that kind.
Were it against the rules, I probably would've been gone long time ago.
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